Connecting to Nature: Indigenous Wisdom Meets Neurobiology; Darcia Narvaez & Four Arrows @robkall1
Connecting to Nature: Indigenous Wisdom Meets Neurobiology; Darcia Narvaez & Four Arrows  @robkall1
Uploaded July 2020 | Updated September 2026, 51 minutes ago
My guests for this show are Darcia Narvaez and Four Arrows.

Darcia Narvaez, is Emerita professor of psychology at Notre Dame University, winner of the Expanded Reason Award and She’s the author of Neurobiology and the Development of Human Morality: Evolution, Culture and Wisdom, which won the William James Book awards, for best psychology book of the year in 2014. Some of her other books include Indigenous Sustainable Wisdom: Integrating First Nation Knowhow for Global Flourishing Ancestral Landscapes in Human Evolution; Culture, Childrearing and Social Wellbeing And numerous books on morality and being human. Her websites include darcianarvaez.com and evolvednest.org

Four Arrows, aka Don Trent Jacobs, Ph.D., Ed.D., is former Director of Education at Oglala Lakota College and currently a professor at Fielding Graduate University. He is the author of 22 books that have received praise from such authors as Vandanna Shiva, Noam Chomsky, Thom Hartmann, Jon Pilger, Vine Deloria, Jr. Greg Cajete and many others. His book, Teaching Truly: A Curriculum to Indigenize Mainstream Education, was selected by the Chicago Wisdom Project as one of the top progressive education books along with Paulo Freire, Neil Postman and John Dewey's books. His website is fourarrowsbooks.com

For this show we talk about connection to nature, with the show being inspired by Darcia Narvaez’s study, Indigenous Nature Connection: A 3-Week Intervention Increased Ecological Attachment.

The study looked at whether specific interventions could get people to become more ecologically conscious and ecologically empathetic or more aware of conservation behaviors. One way to connect with nature is to participate in the ecoattachment dance. Watch the video at youtube.com/watch?v=o43Q-z6aGzo Sign up for the eco attachment dance on Instagram here instagram.com/ecoattachment

Darcia talks about the evolved nest, the way humans were raised for 99% of their existence. Part of that health way of being raised as a human is the development of a healthy attachment and connection to nature. Nature is a part of an extended ecological family. In the evolved nest and in indigenous cultures there are stories that help children learn to think of nature as a teacher and a partner. Indigenous education is about self transformation and about becoming human. Generosity is the highest expression of courage

Once they commit to action, they go from needing courage to fearlessness—the spiritual idea of trusting the universe Four Arrows tells a story from a vision quest. Darcia: Your virtue is defined by what you pay attention to. Attention merchants are robbing us of our personhood.
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