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Comments on the discussion Po the Person and Paul VanderKlay had about "the problem of suffering", justification for having children, and antinatalism.


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TIMELINE

00:00 Introduction
01:44 Po introduces antinatalism
03:35 Is antinatalism achieveable?
04:27 Can you bring a child into the world, knowing they will suffer?
05:30 Is procreation a theological problem?
07:43 Po and Paul think it's good to bring people into the world
08:33 The problem of suffering from The Brothers Karamazov
11:14 How to formulate the question?
12:18 Giving antinatalists their due
13:57 Are we allergic to suffering?
15:32 Some suffering leads some of us to suicide
17:43 Are common sense methods of alleviating suffering are worthless
18:40 Can we reduce suffering by changing our minds?
21:02 We willingly endure suffering for the sake of meaning
22:22 Pursuit of meaning through suffering is central to Christianity
23:59 Some of the most cherished things we obtain through suffering
26:17 A story from The Brothers Karamazov
30:27 The default state of being
31:31 Can happiness outweigh suffering?
35:04 What is the opposite of suffering?
38:07 What is Hell?
39:43 Can we solve the increasingly common type of suffering?
41:22 Are we responsible for the suffering of our children?
42:24 Is it good to create more life? Is it good to live?
46:34 What about the extreme suffering?
48:13 Can we even justify and judge our actions?
50:11 Can we risk suffering for a chance for meaning? What if we don't?
52:50 Po struggles with finding the justification
54:33 Did Po did the right thing?
57:26 Is having children selfish?
58:32 What do we want for our children? Do we want to give that up?
59:49 Ending

Tags

#Antinatalism #Procreation #Ethics #Morality #HavingChildren #MoralJustification
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