Majesty of Reason | Classical Theism and the Problem of Extrinsic Change | Dr. Ryan Mullins @MajestyofReason | Uploaded July 2020 | Updated October 2024, 16 hours ago.
Can the God of classical theism extrinsically change? If not, does this pose problems for classical theism? Dr. Ryan Mullins joins me for an illuminating discussion on these (and many more) questions.
Outline
1. Defining terms (classical theism, relation (medieval and contemporary understandings), real/logical relations, intrinsic/extrinsic properties, extrinsic change)
2. Can the God of classical theism extrinsically change? Hear what scholars (new and old) have to say on extrinsic change, the No Real Relations Doctrine, Divine Timelessness, and much more. Among such scholars are: Paul Helm, Bill Craig, JP Moreland, Lombard, Aquinas, Augustine, Boethius, and Anselm.
-----2.1 Zimmerman & Chisholm on Anselm and Cambridge change
-----2.2 Extrinsic change entails temporality
3. Does denial of extrinsic change pose problems for classical theism?
-----3.1 Relational (accidental) properties like Lord, Redeemer, Creator
-----3.2 The tension between (i) timelessness & (ii) omniscience and presentism
-----3.3 Impossibility of God’s being in a personal relationship with you
-----3.4 Incarnation
Curious to learn more about our work? Check these out:
Reluctant Theologian Podcast: rtmullins.com/podcast
Ryan's book on timelessness: amazon.com/Timeless-Oxford-Studies-Analytic-Theology/dp/019875518X
Joe's book: amazon.com/Majesty-Reason-Critical-Thinking-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B086G7KS52
Joe's website: majestyofreason.wordpress.com
* No, I'm not Dr. Schmid. Please don't sue me. It's a meme, bruv! In all likelihood, I'll be Dr. Schmid in about 8(ish) years. Stay tuned!
Can the God of classical theism extrinsically change? If not, does this pose problems for classical theism? Dr. Ryan Mullins joins me for an illuminating discussion on these (and many more) questions.
Outline
1. Defining terms (classical theism, relation (medieval and contemporary understandings), real/logical relations, intrinsic/extrinsic properties, extrinsic change)
2. Can the God of classical theism extrinsically change? Hear what scholars (new and old) have to say on extrinsic change, the No Real Relations Doctrine, Divine Timelessness, and much more. Among such scholars are: Paul Helm, Bill Craig, JP Moreland, Lombard, Aquinas, Augustine, Boethius, and Anselm.
-----2.1 Zimmerman & Chisholm on Anselm and Cambridge change
-----2.2 Extrinsic change entails temporality
3. Does denial of extrinsic change pose problems for classical theism?
-----3.1 Relational (accidental) properties like Lord, Redeemer, Creator
-----3.2 The tension between (i) timelessness & (ii) omniscience and presentism
-----3.3 Impossibility of God’s being in a personal relationship with you
-----3.4 Incarnation
Curious to learn more about our work? Check these out:
Reluctant Theologian Podcast: rtmullins.com/podcast
Ryan's book on timelessness: amazon.com/Timeless-Oxford-Studies-Analytic-Theology/dp/019875518X
Joe's book: amazon.com/Majesty-Reason-Critical-Thinking-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B086G7KS52
Joe's website: majestyofreason.wordpress.com
* No, I'm not Dr. Schmid. Please don't sue me. It's a meme, bruv! In all likelihood, I'll be Dr. Schmid in about 8(ish) years. Stay tuned!
