Uploaded August 2024 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago
Engineers Katie and Tom Lardner (and their two young kids) recently discovered the joy and freedom of cargo biking in the City of London… and have a lot to share with us! Some of the stuff that popped up about midway through this podcast recording blew my mind and has TRULY changed the way that I see urban street design forever. Talking to these Engineers was an absolute delight and had my brain melting at least ever so slightly a few different times throughout this podcast.
This is episode 3 of the Wheels and Beyond podcast.
Just upgraded microphones, so yay! But then immediately also upped the number of people, so we have an SM58, SM57, and me wired up with a DR-10L. Slowly inching towards better audio quality.
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This episode's guests: Katie Lardner and Tom Lardner
Host: Ben Durham
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Engineers Katie and Tom Lardner (and their two young kids) recently discovered the joy and freedom of cargo biking in the City of London… and have a lot to share with us! Some of the stuff that popped up about midway through this podcast recording blew my mind and has TRULY changed the way that I see urban street design forever. Talking to these Engineers was an absolute delight and had my brain melting at least ever so slightly a few different times throughout this podcast.
This is episode 3 of the Wheels and Beyond podcast.
Just upgraded microphones, so yay! But then immediately also upped the number of people, so we have an SM58, SM57, and me wired up with a DR-10L. Slowly inching towards better audio quality.
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This episode's guests: Katie Lardner and Tom Lardner
Host: Ben Durham
🌟 Join my Patreon to get ad-free videos, behind-the-scenes content, and support the production of these videos: patreon.com/bendurham
Find me on IG: instagram.com/bendurham.ca



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Main equipment used in this video:
🎥 Canon EOS R7 Super 35 Sensor: https://amzn.to/42rCwIu
🕶 Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC Lens (EF mount): https://amzn.to/4b3OPyy
^ at 24mm
🖇 Canon EF-EOS R Mount Adapter: https://amzn.to/3UHoFfo
🎤 Shure SM58: https://amzn.to/4f5ckKi
👆⏺ with a Zoom F3 (32-bit Float Field Recorder): https://amzn.to/4f5ckKi
🌬🚫 Shure A2WS Windscreen: https://amzn.to/3zKuzo8
My other regularly used equipment:
🚲 cargo trailer that I use: https://amzn.to/46eYot4
🚲 cargo ebike: Tern GSD (gen2)
🚲 my ebike: Ride1Up 500 Series Step-Thru (discontinued)
🚲 Natalias bike: Biktrix Swift Step-Thru (gen1) [review: https://youtu.be/jbpyzhw9-NQ]
🎥 Canon EOS R6 Full-Frame used a lot outside the studio: https://amzn.to/43HmkFS
🎥 GoPro 11 often used in biking footage (just not in this video)
But the GoPro 13 is the best right now: https://amzn.to/3ZvBY4C
👓 Canon RF 35mm f1.8 lens is my fave lens on FF cameras: https://amzn.to/40piZXk
👓 Canon RF 24-70mm F2.8 L lens: https://amzn.to/3xa1Aq8
👓 Canon RF50mm F 1.2L: https://amzn.to/35Lp9KK
👓 Canon RF16mm F2.8 STM: https://amzn.to/3udJTEu
🎤 Tascam DR-10L 24-bit lav mic recorders: https://amzn.to/3XRpu7u
🎤 The newest Tascam DR-10L Pro (32bit): https://amzn.to/4cDxhKa
🎤 Wireless Lav Mics (I use the old Sennheiser G3 setup): https://amzn.to/3ufIcpT
🌬🚫 Shure A81WS Windscreen: https://amzn.to/3XWk5Mm
💁♂️ Manfrotto Fluid Head Tripod https://amzn.to/3VQr4Un
💁♂️ Travel Tripod (very light): https://amzn.to/3L3zS1T
💁♂️ Slightly larger tripod: https://amzn.to/3KjIqBY
Stabilization:
🎈current gimbal: Ronin S (discontinued)
Ill be upgrading to the DJI RS 4: https://amzn.to/3PuVRmV
or maybe the lighter DJI Osmo Pocket 3: https://amzn.to/40qDGoJ
💻 OBS for screen-captures
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⌚ CHAPTERS ⌚
00:00 Intro
02:03 USA vs Global Gas Prices
07:15 True Cost of Driving (beyond gas)
12:46 Psychology of Car Dependency
15:16 The Hidden “Freedom Tax”
19:34 Solutions and Breaking the Cycle How cheap gas actually costs you MORE ⛽🤯](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mO-4du1A-Fc/mqdefault.jpg)






