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In Part 1 of this fascinating interview, Catholic theologian and historian Dr. Alan Fimister defends this provocative assertion: the Church founded by Jesus Christ is Roman, in some mysterious sense prophesied in the Old, and fulfilled in the New Testament. The implications are astounding, not only in terms of how we understand the past, but the present, as well as the future history of the world.
You can check out Part 2 here, where we dive into the details of Christ's cleansing of the Temple, and His transference of the Kingdom: youtu.be/wefYjPA5jGo?si=3nY_lAbK205BJ77h
Purchase Dr. Fimister's "The Iron Sceptre of the Son of Man: Romanitas as a Note of the Church" with an Eternal Christendom exclusive discount through Os Justi Press at our Bookstore: eternalchristendom.com/bookstore
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:23 - The Iron Scepter of the Son of Man
00:06:34 - The Genuine Meaning of "Roman Catholic Church"
00:08:51 - The Byzantine Empire
00:11:54 - The Sacred Heart
00:15:15 - Belloc Quote
00:31:00 - The Antichrist
00:32:00 The Church is Roman
00:32:58 - The Importance of the Church's Roman Character
00:34:32 - Why is the Church Roman?
00:47:26 - Reflections on Tolkien's Ukuk-hai
00:49:08 - The Metals of the Empire
00:49:48 - The Ritual Churches in the Catholic Church
01:00:00 - The Evangelization of St. Thomas the Apostle
01:03:40 - The Wisdom of the Ancient World
01:05:05 - The Church's Stance on the Ritual Churches
01:08:02 - The English Weaponization of "Roman Catholic"
01:13:13 - The Council of Florence
01:18:48 - Why the Church is Roman: Prophecy
01:34:14 - The Roman Martyrology
01:35:26 - The Messianic Prophecy of Daniel 9
01:44:15 - The Romans and the Messiah
01:48:15 - The Greatest Mountain in the World (God's Kingdom)
01:52:24 - The Iron Kingdom
01:54:36 - Messiah's Role in Establishing True Kingship
02:02:55 - The Typology of History
02:05:59 - New Testament Fulfillment
02:11:56 - The Transition from the Ancient to the New World
02:20:34 - The Roman Empire and the Incarnation
02:23:52 - The Temple Shekel
02:38:59 - Why Christ Cleansed the Temple
This podcast can also be heard on Apple, Spotify, and other podcast platforms.
In Part 1 of this fascinating interview, Catholic theologian and historian Dr. Alan Fimister defends this provocative assertion: the Church founded by Jesus Christ is Roman, in some mysterious sense prophesied in the Old, and fulfilled in the New Testament. The implications are astounding, not only in terms of how we understand the past, but the present, as well as the future history of the world.
You can check out Part 2 here, where we dive into the details of Christ's cleansing of the Temple, and His transference of the Kingdom: youtu.be/wefYjPA5jGo?si=3nY_lAbK205BJ77h
Purchase Dr. Fimister's "The Iron Sceptre of the Son of Man: Romanitas as a Note of the Church" with an Eternal Christendom exclusive discount through Os Justi Press at our Bookstore: eternalchristendom.com/bookstore
Dr. Fimister is a member of Eternal Christendom's esteemed Advisory Board: eternalchristendom.com/advisory-board
BECOME A PATRON OF THE GREAT TRADITION
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This apostolate is a non-profit under priestly authority, and all your gifts are tax-deductible. Your generosity makes it possible for us to produce our podcast, research, and written content with excellence, while making it available to the world for free, all for the salvation of souls. It also empowers us to work on even bigger projects behind the scenes (stay tuned).
VISIT OUR WEBSITE
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CONNECT ON SOCIAL MEDIA
X: twitter.com/JoshuaTCharles
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DIVE DEEPER
Check out our “Becoming Catholic” resources, where you’ll find 1 million+ words of free content (bigger than the Bible!) in the form of Articles, Quote Archives, and Study Banks to help you become, remain, and deepen your life as a Catholic:
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Subscribe to our Substack to get regular updates on our content, and other premium content:
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EXCLUSIVE BOOKSTORE DISCOUNTS
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:23 - The Iron Scepter of the Son of Man
00:06:34 - The Genuine Meaning of "Roman Catholic Church"
00:08:51 - The Byzantine Empire
00:11:54 - The Sacred Heart
00:15:15 - Belloc Quote
00:31:00 - The Antichrist
00:32:00 The Church is Roman
00:32:58 - The Importance of the Church's Roman Character
00:34:32 - Why is the Church Roman?
00:47:26 - Reflections on Tolkien's Ukuk-hai
00:49:08 - The Metals of the Empire
00:49:48 - The Ritual Churches in the Catholic Church
01:00:00 - The Evangelization of St. Thomas the Apostle
01:03:40 - The Wisdom of the Ancient World
01:05:05 - The Church's Stance on the Ritual Churches
01:08:02 - The English Weaponization of "Roman Catholic"
01:13:13 - The Council of Florence
01:18:48 - Why the Church is Roman: Prophecy
01:34:14 - The Roman Martyrology
01:35:26 - The Messianic Prophecy of Daniel 9
01:44:15 - The Romans and the Messiah
01:48:15 - The Greatest Mountain in the World (God's Kingdom)
01:52:24 - The Iron Kingdom
01:54:36 - Messiah's Role in Establishing True Kingship
02:02:55 - The Typology of History
02:05:59 - New Testament Fulfillment
02:11:56 - The Transition from the Ancient to the New World
02:20:34 - The Roman Empire and the Incarnation
02:23:52 - The Temple Shekel
02:38:59 - Why Christ Cleansed the Temple
This podcast can also be heard on Apple, Spotify, and other podcast platforms.
