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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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[00:00:00] Aging parents and other topics on the table.
[00:05:55] How a common multivitamin helps reverse cognitive and memory aging.
[00:07:18] The importance of supplementation.
[00:08:28] Effectively supplementing with omega-3 fish oil
[00:12:18] The CoQ10 and omega-3 protocol that has helped Rhondas father manage Parkinsons symptoms for nearly a decade.
[00:14:54] Sulforaphane: a potent NRF2 activator with an unexpected benefit for Rhondas mothers tremors.
[00:21:12] How Rhonda convinced her mom to start CrossFit
[00:22:30] The earlier the intervention, the better the outcomes.
[00:27:00] Intermittent fasting vs. extended fasting and my own results.
[00:39:28] Does fasting destroy muscle mass? Debunking the catabolism fear.
[00:51:17] Dirty fasting: what really happens to autophagy and metabolic benefits when you add a splash of cream or MCT oil to your coffee?
[00:54:37] VO2 max: the one metric that may predict lifespan more accurately than anything else, and how we work to improve it.
[01:06:24] How a two-year exercise program reversed heart aging by 20 years in previously sedentary, middle-aged adults.
[01:10:40] Lactate isnt the enemy: how vigorous exercise creates a superfuel that protects and grows the brain.
[01:14:57] The optimal sauna protocol (temperature and frequency) for slashing dementia risk by 66%.
[01:23:46] If youre human, youll find a use for curcumin.
[01:25:13] Creatine for cognition: moving beyond the gym with a powerful, science-backed tool for focus and combating sleep deprivation.
[01:37:31] Still vitamin D deficient despite taking supplements? Heres the critical cofactor youre probably missing.
[01:48:51] Shocking sources of microplastics in our daily lives, including chewing gum and teabags.
[01:59:10] The uncomfortable truth about moderate alcohol consumption, cancer risk, and why the sick quitter hypothesis makes most older studies unreliable.
[02:12:14] The ups and downs of ketamine and psilocybin on cognition and longevity.
[02:19:24] Parting thoughts and where to find more from Rhonda.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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