Uploaded January 2025 | Updated September 2026, 5 hours ago
This week, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg explore the possibility of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, Xi Jinping's political future, U.S.-China tensions, Trump's and Biden's policies, the 2019 global protests, China's economic troubles, and the challenges facing Western nations, while also emphasizing the need for bipartisan cooperation on U.S. industrial policy.
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LINKS:
Noahpinion: https://www.noahpinion.blog/
The Players on the Eve of Destruction: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-players-on-the-eve-of-destruction
How do we measure whether China's economy is "ahead" of America's?: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/how-do-we-measure-whether-chinas
Biden's tarnished industrial legacy: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/bidens-tarnished-industrial-legacy
Trudeau was a poor steward of Canada's economy: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/trudeau-was-a-poor-steward-of-canadas
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:32) Noah's New Year's essays
(01:08) Geopolitical tensions and Taiwan
(04:04) Trump's foreign policy and negotiation tactics
(07:24) Trudeau's economic legacy
(16:47) Sponsors: Netsuite | Notion
(19:00) Global protests and social media
(29:42) Elon Musk and european politics
(32:48) Comparing healthcare systems
(33:14) Elon Musk's influence on politics
(33:40) Freedom of speech in the UK and Canada
(36:05) Elon Musk and the alt-right conflict
(38:05) Changing conservative coalition
(44:08) China's economic challenges
(54:03) Biden's industrial policy legacy
(59:17) Wrap
This week, Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg explore the possibility of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, Xi Jinping's political future, U.S.-China tensions, Trump's and Biden's policies, the 2019 global protests, China's economic troubles, and the challenges facing Western nations, while also emphasizing the need for bipartisan cooperation on U.S. industrial policy.
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📰Be notified early when Turpentine drops new publication: turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess
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SPONSORS:
Notion
📝Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at notion.com/upstreampod
NetSuite
More than 41,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud financial system bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR, into ONE proven platform. Download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine learning: netsuite.com/102
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SEND US YOUR Q's FOR NOAH TO ANSWER ON AIR: Econ102@Turpentine.co
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FOLLOW ON X:
@noahpinion
@eriktorenberg
@turpentinemedia
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LINKS:
Noahpinion: https://www.noahpinion.blog/
The Players on the Eve of Destruction: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-players-on-the-eve-of-destruction
How do we measure whether China's economy is "ahead" of America's?: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/how-do-we-measure-whether-chinas
Biden's tarnished industrial legacy: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/bidens-tarnished-industrial-legacy
Trudeau was a poor steward of Canada's economy: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/trudeau-was-a-poor-steward-of-canadas
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:32) Noah's New Year's essays
(01:08) Geopolitical tensions and Taiwan
(04:04) Trump's foreign policy and negotiation tactics
(07:24) Trudeau's economic legacy
(16:47) Sponsors: Netsuite | Notion
(19:00) Global protests and social media
(29:42) Elon Musk and european politics
(32:48) Comparing healthcare systems
(33:14) Elon Musk's influence on politics
(33:40) Freedom of speech in the UK and Canada
(36:05) Elon Musk and the alt-right conflict
(38:05) Changing conservative coalition
(44:08) China's economic challenges
(54:03) Biden's industrial policy legacy
(59:17) Wrap
