Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
This is another piece of HardLore history in the making, as we’re joined by our first ever actor, the great Brooke Smith of Silence of the Lambs, Grey’s Anatomy, Bates Motel and more!
I am once again joined, very appropriately, by Alec Faber of Holy Blade, Twitching Tongues & God’s Hate (and formerly of the Reel Deal podcast with… me)
Long before she graced the silver screen as the iconic Catherine Martin, you could find her romping around all over the lower east side as one of the infamous WARZONE WOMEN, and a staple of 1980’s New York Hardcore. She spent the golden decade of NYHC taking legendary photos of bands like Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Underdog and more, as documented in her incredible book Sunday Matinee.
We get into her life as a legendary publicist’s daughter, befriending and falling out with the Cro-Mags, the informal formation of the Warzone Women, growing out of hardcore just as acting started to become more serious, her life changing with Silence of the Lambs and again with Grey’s Anatomy, and everything in between…
An incredibly fun conversation with a genuine legend. Thanks to Brooke for joining us.
Grab a copy of SUNDAY MATINEE here: deathwishinc.com/collections/radio-raheem/products/brooke-smith-sunday-matinee
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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.
Edited by Steven Grise (instagram.com/iamonenineseven/) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (instagram.com/marzluf/)
• Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: patreon.com/hardlorepod
• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: discord.gg/jA9rppggef
• Head over to THE MUSIC ZOO for all of your guitar needs! Get 15% off a Dunable custom with code HARDLORE: themusiczoo.com
• Visit GOOD SNOOTS DOG RESCUE to support the fostering and rescuing of dogs all over California: instagram.com/goodsnootsdogrescue
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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:39 - Brooke Smith
00:04:09 - Growing Up
00:06:39 - Women in Early New York Hardcore
00:09:28 - Picking Up Photography
00:10:33 - Sunday Matinee
00:12:54 - The Cro-Mags
00:17:32 - Best Mosher in Early 80s NYHC
00:18:40 - "New" Bands That Formed In Real Time & Changed Things
00:22:12 - Hardcore in the 80s vs. Now
00:23:49 - The Warzone Women, Straight Edge, & Her Infamous Pool Party
00:27:33 - Brooke Flips The Script on us smh
00:29:00 - People & Details in Sunday Matinee That Stood Out to Her
00:31:48 - Phones at Shows Now, The Ramones
00:33:49 - Agnostic Front & The Donahue Show
00:36:05 - Hare Krishna
00:37:57 - Modern Day Equivalent of 1980s CBGBs (Shut Down the Internet)
00:41:04 - Close Calls at CBGBs
00:42:28 - Playing Bass In A Band with Carl the Mosher
00:43:42 - Pardon This Interruption…
00:46:22 - The Misfits & Growing out of Hardcore in 1990
00:50:42 - Acting & Hardcore Intersecting
00:53:05 - Getting the Acting Bug
00:54:43 - Developing a Project With Elgin James
00:56:33 - Silence Of The Lambs
01:05:48 - Friendship with Ted Levine
01:08:08 - Brooke's Silence of the Lambs Journals, Vanya on 42nd St
01:12:37 - The Roles That Could Have Been
01:16:38 - Worst Career Advice
01:18:55 - Grey’s Anatomy
01:29:25 - Jeff Buckley
01:33:08 - Motherhood
01:42:06 - Every Character Goes To See AF
01:45:10 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
This is another piece of HardLore history in the making, as we’re joined by our first ever actor, the great Brooke Smith of Silence of the Lambs, Grey’s Anatomy, Bates Motel and more!
I am once again joined, very appropriately, by Alec Faber of Holy Blade, Twitching Tongues & God’s Hate (and formerly of the Reel Deal podcast with… me)
Long before she graced the silver screen as the iconic Catherine Martin, you could find her romping around all over the lower east side as one of the infamous WARZONE WOMEN, and a staple of 1980’s New York Hardcore. She spent the golden decade of NYHC taking legendary photos of bands like Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Underdog and more, as documented in her incredible book Sunday Matinee.
We get into her life as a legendary publicist’s daughter, befriending and falling out with the Cro-Mags, the informal formation of the Warzone Women, growing out of hardcore just as acting started to become more serious, her life changing with Silence of the Lambs and again with Grey’s Anatomy, and everything in between…
An incredibly fun conversation with a genuine legend. Thanks to Brooke for joining us.
Grab a copy of SUNDAY MATINEE here: deathwishinc.com/collections/radio-raheem/products/brooke-smith-sunday-matinee
_______________
HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.
Edited by Steven Grise (instagram.com/iamonenineseven/) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (instagram.com/marzluf/)
• Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: patreon.com/hardlorepod
• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: discord.gg/jA9rppggef
• Head over to THE MUSIC ZOO for all of your guitar needs! Get 15% off a Dunable custom with code HARDLORE: themusiczoo.com
• Visit GOOD SNOOTS DOG RESCUE to support the fostering and rescuing of dogs all over California: instagram.com/goodsnootsdogrescue
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00:00:00 - Start
00:01:39 - Brooke Smith
00:04:09 - Growing Up
00:06:39 - Women in Early New York Hardcore
00:09:28 - Picking Up Photography
00:10:33 - Sunday Matinee
00:12:54 - The Cro-Mags
00:17:32 - Best Mosher in Early 80s NYHC
00:18:40 - "New" Bands That Formed In Real Time & Changed Things
00:22:12 - Hardcore in the 80s vs. Now
00:23:49 - The Warzone Women, Straight Edge, & Her Infamous Pool Party
00:27:33 - Brooke Flips The Script on us smh
00:29:00 - People & Details in Sunday Matinee That Stood Out to Her
00:31:48 - Phones at Shows Now, The Ramones
00:33:49 - Agnostic Front & The Donahue Show
00:36:05 - Hare Krishna
00:37:57 - Modern Day Equivalent of 1980s CBGBs (Shut Down the Internet)
00:41:04 - Close Calls at CBGBs
00:42:28 - Playing Bass In A Band with Carl the Mosher
00:43:42 - Pardon This Interruption…
00:46:22 - The Misfits & Growing out of Hardcore in 1990
00:50:42 - Acting & Hardcore Intersecting
00:53:05 - Getting the Acting Bug
00:54:43 - Developing a Project With Elgin James
00:56:33 - Silence Of The Lambs
01:05:48 - Friendship with Ted Levine
01:08:08 - Brooke's Silence of the Lambs Journals, Vanya on 42nd St
01:12:37 - The Roles That Could Have Been
01:16:38 - Worst Career Advice
01:18:55 - Grey’s Anatomy
01:29:25 - Jeff Buckley
01:33:08 - Motherhood
01:42:06 - Every Character Goes To See AF
01:45:10 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
