Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Tonight on Mormonism Live, we tackle one of the most persistent and uncomfortable questions in modern Mormon scholarship:
What does DNA actually say about the Book of Mormon?
Our guest is Dr. Thomas W. Murphy, anthropologist, award-winning scholar, and author of Unsettling Scripture: Iroquois and the Book of Mormon. Dr. Murphy’s latest presentation, “DNerAsure: Unsettling Science & Scripture”
DNerAsure_ Unsettling Science …
, challenges both apologetic narratives and oversimplified dismissals of the DNA debate.
🔬 What We Discuss
The acknowledged lack of Middle Eastern DNA in ancient and modern Indigenous American populations
Why the science is not “settled” in the way many assume
The apologetic argument that Book of Mormon DNA may have “disappeared” over time
Why autosomal DNA makes total genetic erasure extraordinarily implausible
The limited geography model and why it does not solve the DNA problem
The ethics of Indigenous DNA collection — including BYU’s controversial accumulation of Indigenous genetic samples
The concept of a “Galileo Event” and whether Mormonism is approaching one
How racialized readings of scripture intersect with real Indigenous identities
Tonight on Mormonism Live, we tackle one of the most persistent and uncomfortable questions in modern Mormon scholarship:
What does DNA actually say about the Book of Mormon?
Our guest is Dr. Thomas W. Murphy, anthropologist, award-winning scholar, and author of Unsettling Scripture: Iroquois and the Book of Mormon. Dr. Murphy’s latest presentation, “DNerAsure: Unsettling Science & Scripture”
DNerAsure_ Unsettling Science …
, challenges both apologetic narratives and oversimplified dismissals of the DNA debate.
🔬 What We Discuss
The acknowledged lack of Middle Eastern DNA in ancient and modern Indigenous American populations
Why the science is not “settled” in the way many assume
The apologetic argument that Book of Mormon DNA may have “disappeared” over time
Why autosomal DNA makes total genetic erasure extraordinarily implausible
The limited geography model and why it does not solve the DNA problem
The ethics of Indigenous DNA collection — including BYU’s controversial accumulation of Indigenous genetic samples
The concept of a “Galileo Event” and whether Mormonism is approaching one
How racialized readings of scripture intersect with real Indigenous identities

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