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Exploring the frontiers of consciousness research and the human experience of meaning, truth and technology. Welcoming Carl Hayden Smith, Associate Professor of Media at the University of East London, DMTx (extended state DMT) participant at Imperial College London and prime theorist of Hyperhumanism. Carl joins philosopher Tim Adalin for a dialogue.
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0:00 Introduction
0:56 What is DMTx (Extended State DMT as Transhumanist Technology)?
6:30 Questioning the Cultural Philosophy of DMTx as Sacrament / Ritual / Medicine
10:10 The Creative Potentials of DMTx & Comparison to Neuralink
18:51 Conscience and Ethics in the navigation, facilitation, usage and integration of Psychedelics / DMTx
29:00 How much are we magnetised by the spell of our own projections?
35:32 Questions of epistemic elitism
38:58 The phenomenology of Death
46:40 Individuation, integration and non-duality in the context of psychonautics, explored in relation to Carl’s exceptional history of exploration
1:00:50 Hyperhumanism, transhumanism, meaning and suffering
1:09:00 Holotechnica, dreaming, the mundane and the sacred
1:17:00 Conclusion
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Access the show notes for this podcast at @ voicecraft.io/content/e93-beyond-dmtx-conscience-hyperhumanism-carl-hayden-smith-in-dialogue-with-tim-adalin
Learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ voicecraft.io/network
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
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Carl Hayden Smith is Associate Professor of Media in the School of Arts & Creative Industries at UEL and is the former Head of Research and Director of the Learning Technology Research Centre (LTRC) at the Institute for Creativity & Technology, Ravensbourne University London.
Raising over £10 million in research funding, he has led numerous teams on large-scale international projects including Erasmus+, FP7, Horizon 2020, Innovate UK and the XPRIZE. His research focuses broadly on the relationship between technology and the human condition. Carl is developing ‘Hyperhumanism’ which reframes technology as a catalyst for developing our own innate human abilities. His other research interests include Embodied Cognition, Spatial Literacy, Context Engineering, Umwelt Hacking, Natural Media, Sensory Augmentation, Extended Senses and Embodiment. His additional projects include AR4EU (Code Reality), Hobs Academy, and Holotechnica. He is also co-founder of the Cyberdelic Society and founder of the Museum of Consciousness. He has given over 300 public lectures, conference presentations and keynotes across 60 countries and published more than 50 academic papers.
The Museum of Consciousness:
themoc.org
The Cyberdelic Society:
cyberdelicsociety.com
Exploring the frontiers of consciousness research and the human experience of meaning, truth and technology. Welcoming Carl Hayden Smith, Associate Professor of Media at the University of East London, DMTx (extended state DMT) participant at Imperial College London and prime theorist of Hyperhumanism. Carl joins philosopher Tim Adalin for a dialogue.
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0:00 Introduction
0:56 What is DMTx (Extended State DMT as Transhumanist Technology)?
6:30 Questioning the Cultural Philosophy of DMTx as Sacrament / Ritual / Medicine
10:10 The Creative Potentials of DMTx & Comparison to Neuralink
18:51 Conscience and Ethics in the navigation, facilitation, usage and integration of Psychedelics / DMTx
29:00 How much are we magnetised by the spell of our own projections?
35:32 Questions of epistemic elitism
38:58 The phenomenology of Death
46:40 Individuation, integration and non-duality in the context of psychonautics, explored in relation to Carl’s exceptional history of exploration
1:00:50 Hyperhumanism, transhumanism, meaning and suffering
1:09:00 Holotechnica, dreaming, the mundane and the sacred
1:17:00 Conclusion
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Access the show notes for this podcast at @ voicecraft.io/content/e93-beyond-dmtx-conscience-hyperhumanism-carl-hayden-smith-in-dialogue-with-tim-adalin
Learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ voicecraft.io/network
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
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Carl Hayden Smith is Associate Professor of Media in the School of Arts & Creative Industries at UEL and is the former Head of Research and Director of the Learning Technology Research Centre (LTRC) at the Institute for Creativity & Technology, Ravensbourne University London.
Raising over £10 million in research funding, he has led numerous teams on large-scale international projects including Erasmus+, FP7, Horizon 2020, Innovate UK and the XPRIZE. His research focuses broadly on the relationship between technology and the human condition. Carl is developing ‘Hyperhumanism’ which reframes technology as a catalyst for developing our own innate human abilities. His other research interests include Embodied Cognition, Spatial Literacy, Context Engineering, Umwelt Hacking, Natural Media, Sensory Augmentation, Extended Senses and Embodiment. His additional projects include AR4EU (Code Reality), Hobs Academy, and Holotechnica. He is also co-founder of the Cyberdelic Society and founder of the Museum of Consciousness. He has given over 300 public lectures, conference presentations and keynotes across 60 countries and published more than 50 academic papers.
The Museum of Consciousness:
themoc.org
The Cyberdelic Society:
cyberdelicsociety.com










![Tuning Into Wisdom | John Vervaeke in dialogue with Tim Adalin
A philosophical dialogue exploring the art of communication, transformation, and how we might realise a more meaningful connection to ourselves, each other, and the world.
Conversation waypoints:
1. The role of dialogue as a response to the meaning crisis
2. Dialogue as a meta-psychotechnology — that which enables the curation and coordination of psychotechnologies (ways that we make sense of the world and cultivate wisdom)
3. Dialectic as the machinery to enter into distributed cognition and collective intelligence
4. Just like individual intelligence needs to be exapted up into rationality and then that exapted up into wisdom, we need to take collective intelligence and ratchet that up into collective rationality and collective wisdom. [...] Thats what I think we need in order to get to the meta-psychotechnology. JV
- up to roughly 17mins
5. Theory and theoria, the musicality of dialogue, and meta-reflection on present dialogue
6. Accessing underlying functionality through phenomenology.
7. The logos in dia-logos - gathering together (logos) so that things belong together
8. Vulnerability and exposure - vulnerability as allowing things to penetrate into you.
9. Encouraging each other and encaring each other. So the vulnerability stays as a sensitivity rather than a hardening of defence because were overexposed.
10. We have to bring the depths of ontology into dia-logos. Your deepest patterns of intelligibility, your deepest patterns of coping and sensemaking are always bound up with your deepest patterns of caring and concern and identification. So if we want this to have existential depth then we have to touch upon the ontological depths as well.
11. Tipping towards aporia but not to horrify. We want to commit to the not knowing so that it becomes wonder and awe. This is also part of the dia-logos.
12. On circling plus philea sophia. 32 mins
13. From theoria back into theory 36 mins
14. Relevance realisation and loving transformation
15. Love, vulnerability, interesse (interesting - to be within)
16. Sacredness and the sacred
17. Making sacred and perfection
18. Teleology
19. Value and limitations of narrative 57 mins
20. Transnarrative - buddhism taoism stocicism
21. Do we have to leave narrative behind?
22. Connection between the completion of narrative and perfection and the sacred
23. Atemporality, Plato, Bergson, Beauty
24. Whitehead, emanation and emergence
25. Dialectic as the ontological structure of reality
26. Modes of orientation
27. The urgency of our collective moment
28. Meta-stability - a state of criticality so that positive development is possible for us while also setting up a whole bunch of constraints and systems so we dont over commit. Serious play allows us to taste and touch the criticality without the danger of catastrophic error.
29. Meta-stability and serious play
30. Ritual as a place of serious play
31. The joy and trauma of masculinity and femininity
32. Yin and yang
33. Adversarial to opponent processing
34. The need for healing
35. The importance of self-correction
John Vervaeke PhD is an award-winning lecturer at the University of Toronto in the departments of psychology, cognitive science and Buddhist psychology. He has published articles on relevance realization, general intelligence, mindfulness, metaphor, and wisdom. His abiding passion is to address the meaning crisis that besets western culture.
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