Being black in Berlin w/ Musa Okwonga @MadinGermanypod
Being black in Berlin w/ Musa Okwonga  @MadinGermanypod
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In today's episode, recorded at a studio event at Podfest live last year, we explore:

⚡ Berlin's existential moment — conservative city hall, culture cuts, and the slow drift toward London-ification
⚡ The brain drain nobody's talking about — why the most integrated migrants are already leaving quietly
⚡ Nazi ecosystems — entire towns, far-right security services, and VIP boxes at the Uber Music Hall
⚡ The resilience of desire — sex, race, and intimacy in a city with a racism problem
⚡ Football, bisexuality, and music — on holding multiple identities in one city
⚡ Fight or flight — would you leave before an AfD government, or stay and report?
⚡ The Holocaust as cultural theft — Nobel prizes, empty playgrounds, and what Germany never actually reckoned with
⚡ Gaza, Ukraine, Syria — on consistency, ideology, and the left's selective empathy

"They love our labor but they hate us as people."

"The only reason I know the names of those towns is because black people had been murdered there."

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CREDITS
Mad in Germany
Host: James Jackson
Guest: Musa Okwonga (Writer, Poet, Broadcaster & Musician; Author of In The End, It Was All About Love and One of Them; Co-host of Stadio; Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature)
Editor: Luardo Eduardo Gamero
Producer: Lya Cuellar

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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Introduction — Mad in Germany's first live show with Musa Okwonga
00:01:28 Is it still all about love? Berlin, community, and what keeps you here
00:02:35 Berlin vs London — is the city heading the same way?
00:04:00 Merz, the cityscape comment, and what he's actually saying to non-white residents
00:06:26 Police violence, Palestine protests, and the UN report Germany ignored
00:08:04 Translating Germany for the world — the language barrier and the imagination barrier
00:09:17 Nazi ecosystems — entire towns, the AfD vote, and what engaging with the far right actually looks like
00:13:22 The brain drain — who's leaving, and why India's top earners are next
00:18:29 Performative anti-racism and white allies who won't say it to their own families
00:22:38 Hedonism decoupled from politics — Elon Musk at Kit Kat and the end of affordable queer Berlin
00:25:15 Football, Stadio, Ian Wright, and Musa's grandfather who ran Ugandan football
00:28:05 Fight or flight — would you leave before an AfD government?
00:30:54 Germany as a slow tanker — is there time to turn it around?
00:32:45 An attempted murder near home — and what the friendly police translator revealed
00:36:37 The towns whose names Musa knows only from murders — and why he still goes
00:41:46 Attending a neo-Nazi march in Dresden as a British journalist
00:45:44 Black soft power, Afro-Germans, Tony Rüdiger, and what Germany owes to those it excludes
00:47:54 The Holocaust as cultural theft — Nobel prizes, empty playgrounds, and what was really lost
00:51:33 Gaza, Ukraine, Syria — on consistency and the left's selective empathy
00:56:49 Closing — Germany's abdication of responsibility, and why it breaks Musa's heart

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