Uploaded May 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Where on the clock of fascism are we at this time?

Masha Gessen, an expert on autocracy and a New York Times Opinion columnist, says the window to act is getting smaller and smaller. “It's getting very close to the point of no return.”

In conversation with author and professor Jason Stanley, the two explore how to be bold in our movements and stop the acceleration of authoritarianism. Catch the episode on public television and radio, or search for Laura Flanders & Friends on YouTube and podcast platforms: youtu.be/0SL4ZDIzCOA