Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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“I don’t worry about being replaced by AI. I worry about being replaced by someone who’s really good at using AI.”
— Mike Cannon-Brookes

Atlassian is the company behind Jira, Confluence, and Bitbucket, tools used by millions of developers worldwide.

In this episode, Co-Founder & CEO Mike Cannon-Brookes joins Lukas Biewald to share what their data reveals about the world's best AI tools today.

Hear how 24 years of building a tech giant and a massive internal study on AI productivity have shaped Mike's vision for the future of dev jobs.

Connect with us here:

Mike Cannon-Brookes: linkedin.com/in/mcannonbrookes/?originalSubdomain=au
Atlassian: linkedin.com/company/atlassian/?viewAsMember=true
Lukas Biewald: linkedin.com/in/lbiewald
Weights & Biases: linkedin.com/company/wandb

Chapters:
00:00 Trailer
01:08 Introduction
03:11 Connecting Technology and Business Teams
07:22 The Impact of AI on Business Workflows
13:26 Developer Productivity and AI
21:03 Measuring Developer Efficiency
25:41 Future of AI in Development
34:59 Legacy Technology and Code Changes
39:29 AI's Role in Developer Productivity
47:40 AI and Junior Developers
52:30 Product-Led Growth and Business Strategy
01:00:29 Core Metrics for Sustainable Growth
01:06:56 Staying Creative in the Tech Industry