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An effort toward critical and generative relation with Forrest Landry’s thinking on the topic of Artificial Intelligence, existential risk, and the possibilities for meaningful response.
This was recorded for the Voicecraft Network's Humanity, Technology & Nature expedition, following a previous session engaging with Forrest’s Substrate Needs Convergence argument.
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Access the show notes for this podcast at @ voicecraft.io/content/e101-artificial-intelligence-existential-risk-mysticism-w/-forrest-landry-the-voicecraft-network
00:00 - Introduction
02:30 - Forrest Explains The Substrate Needs Convergence Argument
26:00 - The Need for Intuition, Instinct and Intellect To Inform Conscious Choice-Making
36:22 - Can There Be Empathy Between Machine Intelligence & Human Intelligence
49:46 - Intimacy, Intensity, The Mystical, And The Need For Spiritual Process
1:17:14 - Intention, Implication & Intensity
1:24:47 - Questions & Clarifying The Substrate Argument
1:40:10 - What Next?
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
An effort toward critical and generative relation with Forrest Landry’s thinking on the topic of Artificial Intelligence, existential risk, and the possibilities for meaningful response.
This was recorded for the Voicecraft Network's Humanity, Technology & Nature expedition, following a previous session engaging with Forrest’s Substrate Needs Convergence argument.
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Learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ voicecraft.io
Access the show notes for this podcast at @ voicecraft.io/content/e101-artificial-intelligence-existential-risk-mysticism-w/-forrest-landry-the-voicecraft-network
00:00 - Introduction
02:30 - Forrest Explains The Substrate Needs Convergence Argument
26:00 - The Need for Intuition, Instinct and Intellect To Inform Conscious Choice-Making
36:22 - Can There Be Empathy Between Machine Intelligence & Human Intelligence
49:46 - Intimacy, Intensity, The Mystical, And The Need For Spiritual Process
1:17:14 - Intention, Implication & Intensity
1:24:47 - Questions & Clarifying The Substrate Argument
1:40:10 - What Next?
Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0




- The importance of sovereignty and individual decision-making
- The importance of soul and soul-making in the transition
- The divisional nature of questions
- A transcendent dynamic beyond win-lose
- Making losing less bad
- Negative feedback loops and addiction as reciprocal narrowing
- Self-transcendence as reciprocal opening in relation to system dynamics
- Continued transformation as the oscillatory creative advance of experience, with love and respect for our adaptive foundational roots, and enthusiasm for future oriented, adaptive change.
- The importance of dialogue.
- The deep necessity of participation in the world.
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