Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reason Apple decided to sue OpenAI over trade secrets, OpenAI's forthcoming smart speaker, the new Pixel colors, our emoji strategies, Brendan Carr, and much more.
0:00 Welcome
00:58 Apple Betas Check-In
02:34 Siri AI Hits and Misses
06:30 Gemini Car Assistant Example
12:21 Developers and Siri Integrations
13:38 Apple Sues OpenAI
14:43 Trade Secret Law Explained
17:08 Apple IP Wars History
27:28 Will OpenAI Settle
31:10 Gadget Leaks Return
31:32 OpenAI Smart Speaker Rumor
32:52 Why Hardware Defaults Home
34:31 Smart Home Table Stakes
35:51 ChatGPT App Product Woes
38:22 LLMs Won’t Change Speakers
39:42 Old Platform Lessons Return
44:14 Delight vs Predictability
47:10 Pixel Colors and Naming
49:12 OnePlus Retreat Explained
51:59 Carriers and iPhone Lock In
59:06 The Lightning Round
01:00:41 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:02:00 Open Bribes Era
01:04:17 FCC Ownership Cap Fight
01:08:27 Call to Comment
01:09:30 Emoji Lightning Round
01:11:04 Cracked Face Emoji
01:13:46 X Algorithm Rediscovery
01:18:57 Foothills Singularity Talk
01:24:16 Paramount Merger Spin
01:29:01 Wrap and Plugs
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It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reason Apple decided to sue OpenAI over trade secrets, OpenAI's forthcoming smart speaker, the new Pixel colors, our emoji strategies, Brendan Carr, and much more.
0:00 Welcome
00:58 Apple Betas Check-In
02:34 Siri AI Hits and Misses
06:30 Gemini Car Assistant Example
12:21 Developers and Siri Integrations
13:38 Apple Sues OpenAI
14:43 Trade Secret Law Explained
17:08 Apple IP Wars History
27:28 Will OpenAI Settle
31:10 Gadget Leaks Return
31:32 OpenAI Smart Speaker Rumor
32:52 Why Hardware Defaults Home
34:31 Smart Home Table Stakes
35:51 ChatGPT App Product Woes
38:22 LLMs Won’t Change Speakers
39:42 Old Platform Lessons Return
44:14 Delight vs Predictability
47:10 Pixel Colors and Naming
49:12 OnePlus Retreat Explained
51:59 Carriers and iPhone Lock In
59:06 The Lightning Round
01:00:41 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:02:00 Open Bribes Era
01:04:17 FCC Ownership Cap Fight
01:08:27 Call to Comment
01:09:30 Emoji Lightning Round
01:11:04 Cracked Face Emoji
01:13:46 X Algorithm Rediscovery
01:18:57 Foothills Singularity Talk
01:24:16 Paramount Merger Spin
01:29:01 Wrap and Plugs
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