Zaunstar | Anti-Natalism: Depression's Best Friend? @Zaunstar | Uploaded February 2014 | Updated October 2024, 3 hours ago.
I've wanted to talk about this ever since a member of the Crocoduck Army sent me a message a year or two ago saying he was depressed and thinking of ending it all because he was becoming an anti-natalist. I think maybe the world needs more joy and less doom and gloom, so Inmendham may need some cheering up. NO TROLLING though, please. *:-)
The following is the entire message I received in support of anti-natalism that I mentioned in the video:
What do you think about EFILism/Antinatalism?
-Life is unintelligently designed (4 billion years of 1 cell replicating)
-Life is a mechanical process that doesn't do anything but half satisfy needs that do not need to exist.
-The value in the universe is sentience, or the capacity to feel. "Everything that has value ONLY has value because it can affect the welfare of something that can feel." Inmendham
-Our needs don't need to exist. The creation of new sentient beings is an unethical imposition and a waste of pain.
-All life including animal life, for they are literally eating each other alive every day, should be discontinued.
-We can prevent the pain of the future by advocating
Efilism/Antinatalism. This is why suicidal people should remain alive because they can prevent more pain suffered by beings exactly like them in the every way that matters-- which is that they feel.
-Animals should not be consumed. They have feelings.
I am not the person in the video. That is Inmendham. his website: donotgod.com
EFILists/Antinatalists put forth that pleasure is release of pain. Imagine a number line. At birth we are placed at negative -100. Pleasures make us feel less bad and take us from -11 to -80. We are born in need. We spend our lives going throughout the world trying to satisfy those needs. But nothing has intrinsic value. One would not see value in food unless they first were made to feel hungry. All pleasures are like this. They are false projections of value that temporarily satisfy us. This is their only value. In their ability to mitigate our pain and proportionally satisfy us. But life is a sum-zero game. If you played it perfectly so that the sentient being was completely 100% satisfied it would still be futile. The need is entirely contrived and entirely internal. We weren't designed to be satisfied. We were designed to be unsatisfied and insatiable to chase things for the sake of making us move in order to replicate. We're all chasing the neutral zero of nonexistence, and the nonexistent state of having no needs cannot be improved upon. Whilst you claim idealism, I think true idealism is raising one's standards and seeing how gamed we're being by a DNA molecule and questioning the validity of life and the wisdom in caging beings in bodies and stupid psychologies in the first place. The need is an indignity in and of itself. The question to ask is why was complete satisfaction ever denied from us in the first place? In order for our existence to be able to go anywhere or do anything there has to be a real need for it in the universe. Because there simply is no need for our existence we show up here and we're the problem. What can be accomplished? Nothing because there's no real need for accomplishment. The notions in our head telling us otherwise are all ego driven and stupid and squandering the real value which is the suffering. All of life should go extinct.
All Fail the Mess Makers and the torture they impose (Inmendham's video):
youtube.com/watch?v=B2Y6tqC_IFs
(End of message)
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Outro royalty-free music license info:
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Song URL for Dvorak Polka:
incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/index.html?genre=Polka
Artist: Kevin MacLeod
I've wanted to talk about this ever since a member of the Crocoduck Army sent me a message a year or two ago saying he was depressed and thinking of ending it all because he was becoming an anti-natalist. I think maybe the world needs more joy and less doom and gloom, so Inmendham may need some cheering up. NO TROLLING though, please. *:-)
The following is the entire message I received in support of anti-natalism that I mentioned in the video:
What do you think about EFILism/Antinatalism?
-Life is unintelligently designed (4 billion years of 1 cell replicating)
-Life is a mechanical process that doesn't do anything but half satisfy needs that do not need to exist.
-The value in the universe is sentience, or the capacity to feel. "Everything that has value ONLY has value because it can affect the welfare of something that can feel." Inmendham
-Our needs don't need to exist. The creation of new sentient beings is an unethical imposition and a waste of pain.
-All life including animal life, for they are literally eating each other alive every day, should be discontinued.
-We can prevent the pain of the future by advocating
Efilism/Antinatalism. This is why suicidal people should remain alive because they can prevent more pain suffered by beings exactly like them in the every way that matters-- which is that they feel.
-Animals should not be consumed. They have feelings.
I am not the person in the video. That is Inmendham. his website: donotgod.com
EFILists/Antinatalists put forth that pleasure is release of pain. Imagine a number line. At birth we are placed at negative -100. Pleasures make us feel less bad and take us from -11 to -80. We are born in need. We spend our lives going throughout the world trying to satisfy those needs. But nothing has intrinsic value. One would not see value in food unless they first were made to feel hungry. All pleasures are like this. They are false projections of value that temporarily satisfy us. This is their only value. In their ability to mitigate our pain and proportionally satisfy us. But life is a sum-zero game. If you played it perfectly so that the sentient being was completely 100% satisfied it would still be futile. The need is entirely contrived and entirely internal. We weren't designed to be satisfied. We were designed to be unsatisfied and insatiable to chase things for the sake of making us move in order to replicate. We're all chasing the neutral zero of nonexistence, and the nonexistent state of having no needs cannot be improved upon. Whilst you claim idealism, I think true idealism is raising one's standards and seeing how gamed we're being by a DNA molecule and questioning the validity of life and the wisdom in caging beings in bodies and stupid psychologies in the first place. The need is an indignity in and of itself. The question to ask is why was complete satisfaction ever denied from us in the first place? In order for our existence to be able to go anywhere or do anything there has to be a real need for it in the universe. Because there simply is no need for our existence we show up here and we're the problem. What can be accomplished? Nothing because there's no real need for accomplishment. The notions in our head telling us otherwise are all ego driven and stupid and squandering the real value which is the suffering. All of life should go extinct.
All Fail the Mess Makers and the torture they impose (Inmendham's video):
youtube.com/watch?v=B2Y6tqC_IFs
(End of message)
Twitter: twitter.com/Zaunstar
FaceBook: facebook.com/pages/Zaunstar/168680496528953
PlayStation Network: Zaunstar
Outro royalty-free music license info:
creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode
Song URL for Dvorak Polka:
incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/index.html?genre=Polka
Artist: Kevin MacLeod
