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“Our discomfort and our grappling is not a sign of failure,” America Ferrera says. “It’s a sign that we’re living at the edge of our imaginations.” She is a culture-shifting artist. John Paul Lederach is one of our greatest living architects of social transformation. From the inaugural On Being Gathering, a revelatory, joyous exploration of the ingredients of social courage — and how change really happens in generational time. (Original Air Date: June 7, 2018)
About the Guests:
America Ferrera is a producer, activist, and Emmy Award-winning actor. Her breakthrough role came in the movie “Real Women Have Curves.” She played the leading role in the ABC series “Ugly Betty,” and she stars in and co-produces the NBC series “Superstore.” She is also co-founder of the grassroots activism organization Harness.
John Paul Lederach is a senior fellow at Humanity United, a project of the Omidyar Foundation, and professor emeritus of international peacebuilding at the Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies at the University of Notre Dame.
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“Our discomfort and our grappling is not a sign of failure,” America Ferrera says. “It’s a sign that we’re living at the edge of our imaginations.” She is a culture-shifting artist. John Paul Lederach is one of our greatest living architects of social transformation. From the inaugural On Being Gathering, a revelatory, joyous exploration of the ingredients of social courage — and how change really happens in generational time. (Original Air Date: June 7, 2018)
About the Guests:
America Ferrera is a producer, activist, and Emmy Award-winning actor. Her breakthrough role came in the movie “Real Women Have Curves.” She played the leading role in the ABC series “Ugly Betty,” and she stars in and co-produces the NBC series “Superstore.” She is also co-founder of the grassroots activism organization Harness.
John Paul Lederach is a senior fellow at Humanity United, a project of the Omidyar Foundation, and professor emeritus of international peacebuilding at the Kroc Institute for International Peace Studies at the University of Notre Dame.
Visit our website to read the transcript, download the episode, or listen to the unedited interview: onbeing.org/programs/america-ferrera-john-paul-lederach-how-change-happens-in-generational-time-jun2018
Visit our On Being Classics Library, where this episode is featured:
onbeing.org/libraries/classics
STAY IN TOUCH
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OUR PODCASTS
On Being with Krista Tippett: onbeing.org/series/podcast
This Movie Changed Me: onbeing.org/series/this-movie-changed-me
Becoming Wise: onbeing.org/series/becoming-wise










