Uploaded August 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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In this AI debate, we explore:

* Whether humans will exist in 2040.
* What will happen once we reach AGI.
* Whether AI gets smart enough to act malevolently or benevolently towards humans.
* If AI will grow powerful enough to be out of human control.
* and much more...

Guests

* Zack Kass is an AI advisor, author, and former Head of Go-to-Market at OpenAI.
* Liv Boeree is a physicist, science communicator, podcaster and former professional poker champion.
* Aric Floyd is an AI writer, and video producer.

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0:00 Will Humans Still Be Around in 2040?
8:20 What Jobs Will Be Protected From AI?
14:22 Finding Meaning in a Post-Work World
23:13 Technology is Pulling Us From Our Purpose
27:12 Where Do We Draw the Line With Outsourcing Thinking?
39:58 Is AI Unlocking Human Potential?
42:28 Refusal or Obedience: What’s More Dangerous?
46:01 The AI Attack That Should Worry Everyone
54:44 Should We Slow Down Advanced AI?
56:41 Does Recursive Research Actually Work?
01:10:52 How Safe is AI?
01:14:01 Can We Reach a Peace Deal For a Super-intelligent World?
01:22:38 Why AI 2040 Got So Much Right
01:26:21 Is AGI Inevitable?
01:30:39 Could Techno-Pastoralism Be the Future?
01:37:16 Is AI Replacing Human Connection?
01:45:36 How Do We Navigate the Purpose-Friction Problem?
02:00:50 Why Data Centre Policy Matters More Than Ever
02:05:56 The Concentration of Power Concern
02:11:39 Is the Frontier Strategy the Winning Condition?
02:18:17 Will AI Weaken Democracy?
02:29:11 How We Can Limit the Concentration of Power
02:31:45 Is ChatGPT Pessimistic About the Future?
02:37:54 What Should We Be Focused On?

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