Uploaded June 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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On Friday the 13th, Mattis went up against two of the most vicious debaters in the Catholic and Orthodox apologetics spaces - and we're not entirely sure who won. The boys discuss the main points of that conversation, how it's been misrepresented in the days following, and why it is that online debates are more spectacle than substance.

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