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How big was T.rex? New data shows that the T.rex E.D. Cope, the "Copium rex," was the biggest theropod ever found, increasing theropod size limits to new heights. T.rex was a powerful predatory megatheropod. While Sue and Scotty are currently cited as the biggest T.rex specimens, new measurements of E.D. Cope, from the Black Hills Institute in South Dakota, form a challenge for the title of the megatheropod king. Measurements of this new T.rex femur indicate that Cope may be between 10.6 and 12.4 tonnes, making it the biggest theropod by up to 2 tonnes. T.rex size is a hot debate in paleontology, and Cope just turned it into a bonfire. Copium rex!
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Campione, N.E., Evans, D.C., Brown, C.M. and Carrano, M.T. (2014), Body mass estimation in non-avian bipeds using a theoretical conversion to quadruped stylopodial proportions. Methods Ecol Evol, 5: 913-923. doi.org/10.1111/2041-210X.12226
Carr, T.D., Napoli, J.G., Brusatte, S.L. et al. Insufficient Evidence for Multiple Species of Tyrannosaurus in the Latest Cretaceous of North America: A Comment on “The Tyrant Lizard King, Queen and Emperor: Multiple Lines of Morphological and Stratigraphic Evidence Support Subtle Evolution and Probable Speciation Within the North American Genus Tyrannosaurus”. Evol Biol 49, 327–341 (2022). doi.org/10.1007/s11692-022-09573-1
Hurlburt, Grant. (1999). Hurlburt, G. R. 1999. Comparison of body mass estimation techniques, using recent reptiles and the pelycosaur Edaphosaurus boanerges. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 19 (2):338-350.. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology. 19. 338-350.
Paul, G.S., Persons, W.S. & Van Raalte, J. The Tyrant Lizard King, Queen and Emperor: Multiple Lines of Morphological and Stratigraphic Evidence Support Subtle Evolution and Probable Speciation Within the North American Genus Tyrannosaurus. Evol Biol 49, 156–179 (2022). doi.org/10.1007/s11692-022-09561-5
Persons, W.S., IV, Currie, P.J. and Erickson, G.M. (2020), An Older and Exceptionally Large Adult Specimen of Tyrannosaurus rex. Anat Rec, 303: 656-672. doi.org/10.1002/ar.24118
How big was T.rex? New data shows that the T.rex E.D. Cope, the "Copium rex," was the biggest theropod ever found, increasing theropod size limits to new heights. T.rex was a powerful predatory megatheropod. While Sue and Scotty are currently cited as the biggest T.rex specimens, new measurements of E.D. Cope, from the Black Hills Institute in South Dakota, form a challenge for the title of the megatheropod king. Measurements of this new T.rex femur indicate that Cope may be between 10.6 and 12.4 tonnes, making it the biggest theropod by up to 2 tonnes. T.rex size is a hot debate in paleontology, and Cope just turned it into a bonfire. Copium rex!
Check out the original Reddit conversation here: reddit.com/r/Dinosaurs/comments/15y0wu4/what_makes_me_feel_strange_is_that_no_one_here
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Atlantis by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Campione, N.E., Evans, D.C., Brown, C.M. and Carrano, M.T. (2014), Body mass estimation in non-avian bipeds using a theoretical conversion to quadruped stylopodial proportions. Methods Ecol Evol, 5: 913-923. doi.org/10.1111/2041-210X.12226
Carr, T.D., Napoli, J.G., Brusatte, S.L. et al. Insufficient Evidence for Multiple Species of Tyrannosaurus in the Latest Cretaceous of North America: A Comment on “The Tyrant Lizard King, Queen and Emperor: Multiple Lines of Morphological and Stratigraphic Evidence Support Subtle Evolution and Probable Speciation Within the North American Genus Tyrannosaurus”. Evol Biol 49, 327–341 (2022). doi.org/10.1007/s11692-022-09573-1
Hurlburt, Grant. (1999). Hurlburt, G. R. 1999. Comparison of body mass estimation techniques, using recent reptiles and the pelycosaur Edaphosaurus boanerges. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 19 (2):338-350.. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology. 19. 338-350.
Paul, G.S., Persons, W.S. & Van Raalte, J. The Tyrant Lizard King, Queen and Emperor: Multiple Lines of Morphological and Stratigraphic Evidence Support Subtle Evolution and Probable Speciation Within the North American Genus Tyrannosaurus. Evol Biol 49, 156–179 (2022). doi.org/10.1007/s11692-022-09561-5
Persons, W.S., IV, Currie, P.J. and Erickson, G.M. (2020), An Older and Exceptionally Large Adult Specimen of Tyrannosaurus rex. Anat Rec, 303: 656-672. doi.org/10.1002/ar.24118
![Ultimate Predator: How T.rex Broke the Game
Who let the game devs do this? Cutting-edge paleontological studies explain the biological factors that made T.rex so successful and how it was able to outcompete all rivals. Tyrannosaurus rex was the biggest theropod known to science. T.rex is famous for its bone-crushing bite, incredible senses, and physical power, but it may have also been as intelligent as a primate. T.rex was so OP because of a combination of its keen senses, a bite force that could crush a car, a muscular and powerful body, high agility compared to other theropods, and intelligence that ranged from comparable to crocodiles to primates. Naming T.rex the Tyrant Lizard King was prophetic, as it seems that with every new study released T.rex only becomes more dangerous and majestic.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
00:16 SENSES
01:37 SIZE
02:50 BITE FORCE
03:27 SPEED AND AGILITY
04:38 INTELLIGENCE
05:49 CONCLUSION
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Human Running Speed https://marathonhandbook.com/how-fast-can-the-average-human-run/
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![The Size Limit of Spinosaurus
Recent discoveries about Spinosaurus, the sail-backed giant theropod, have changed our understanding of its ecology and lifestyle. Spinosaurus aegyptiacus was one of the largest predators of all time, and dominated the river systems of northern Africa during the Cretaceous Period. Here Vividen analyzes how big Spinosaurus could have gotten in life. What were the size limits of Spinosaurus? Was it bigger than T.rex? Was it, in fact, the biggest theropod?
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Lineart by Robinson Kunz (https://teratophoneus.deviantart.com/) Color by Rebecca Slater (https://paleocolour.deviantart.com/) - https://paleocolour.deviantart.com/art/Baryonyx-walkeri-737728903
Life restoration combining specimens of Irritator and Angaturama
Fred Wierum - Own work
Life restoration of Suchomimus tenerensis based on Scott Hartmans skeletal[1] (flipped for use in cladograms and such.)
AntoninJury - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Suchomimustenerensis.jpg
Ryan Somma - https://www.flickr.com/photos/ideonexus/15879079738/in/album-72157649438121619/
Taken at the National Geographic Museum Spinosaurus Exhibit.
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