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In this episode, Kevin Kelly breaks down why optimism isn’t a personality type. It's a trainable skill that can reshape your entire life. Drawing from decades of creative work, technological insight, and hard-won wisdom, Kevin explains how to consciously shift your mental defaults, break patterns of negativity, and build the kind of mindset that leads to better decisions, deeper curiosity, and a more meaningful future. This conversation is a practical, grounded playbook for anyone who wants to see the world with more possibility, not through delusion, but through disciplined perspective.
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In this episode, Kevin Kelly breaks down why optimism isn’t a personality type. It's a trainable skill that can reshape your entire life. Drawing from decades of creative work, technological insight, and hard-won wisdom, Kevin explains how to consciously shift your mental defaults, break patterns of negativity, and build the kind of mindset that leads to better decisions, deeper curiosity, and a more meaningful future. This conversation is a practical, grounded playbook for anyone who wants to see the world with more possibility, not through delusion, but through disciplined perspective.
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youtube.com/watch?v=6S2wEWQKNag&t=3240s
youtube.com/watch?v=EfuCaISs7-s&t=1s
youtube.com/watch?v=dxXGqIL_AxA&t=9s
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💧 Vitadrop — Healthy Hydration & Vitamins (Sleep / Hydration / Focus & Collagen) — Use the code 'TOT' to get 25% off your purchase @ https://www.vitadrop.com.au/TOT
👟 Vivobarefoot — My favourite barefoot shoes that I wear everyday — Use the code ‘TOT’ for 20% off @ vivobarefoot.com
🥗 Blueprint — Longevity supplements and meal solutions by Bryan Johnson — Use the code ‘TOT’ for 10% off your purchase @ friends.bryanjohnson.com/TOT
📖 5 Minute Journal — My favourite daily gratitude journal — Use the code ‘TOT10’ for 10% off @ intelligentchange.com/?rfsn=4732871.491170e&utm_source=refersion&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=4732871.491170e
📝 Notion — My favourite note taking app I use for my business and personal life everyday — Use the code ‘TOT’ to support the podcast @ https://affiliate.notion.so/TOT
😴 Hostage Tape — A sleep mouth tape I use every night — Use code for 10% off @ hostagetape.com/products/buy?snowball=ADAM90598
🐄 Carnivore Aurelius Collagen — Collagen I use daily — Use code ‘TOT’ for 10% off @ carnivoreaurelius.com/TOT
👓 Blue Light Glasses — Glasses I wear every night — Use code ‘TOT’ for 10% off @ www.blockbluelight.com.au/?ref=TOT
📵 Opal — Blocking iPhone app I use daily — Follow the link to support the podcast @ www.applink.opal.so/invite-friend?rc=EA66X&rId=AIriLLeGL0Nofh8MOpdNLEwgEF53&rNme=Admet
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💭 ABOUT US:
Each week I’ll be deep diving into the lives, habits and lessons of some of the most successful and interesting people in the world — teasing out their curiosities and aiming to provide actionable insights for your day-to-day life.
The podcast focusses on the pillars of health, wealth, and wisdom — and each episode is an in-depth, vulnerable conversation with a unique individual taking on the world in their unique way.
Expect episodes on business, marketing, health, spirituality, biohacking, mindset, content creation and more!
Hosted by Adam Metwally — (instagram.com/meetwally/)
Produced by Joe Fowler (instagram.com/joeefowler/).
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