Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Live from the IDAC booth at Identiverse 2026, Jeff and Jim sit down with Pam Dingle, Director of Identity Standards at Microsoft, to unpack agentic identity. Pam breaks down assistive versus autonomous agents, walks through where standards like SPIFFE and OAuth hold up, and explains the difference between delegation, impersonation, and partition. The conversation also covers credential discovery risk, shared signals and revocation, what enterprises should prioritize now, and the value of hallway conversations at Identiverse.
Connect with Pam: linkedin.com/in/pameladingle
OAuth Actor Profile for Delegation: ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mcguinness-oauth-actor-profile-00.html
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp
Jeff Steadman: linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and Identiverse 2026 vibes
04:01 Defining agentic identity
07:06 Has the earth really shifted
11:38 An old problem thats been bejeweled
15:13 From Nulli Secundus to Microsoft
16:00 How standards are holding up
19:27 Client ID metadata and just in time trust
21:41 Shared signals and the revocation problem
24:43 Deploying agentic identity at scale
28:11 Registries at scale
29:04 Delegation authorization and attenuation
32:33 Delegation vs impersonation vs partition
36:03 The one thing you can fix right now
37:56 Favorite hallway conversation
42:29 The solar system of hallway conversations
45:51 Remembering Kim Cameron
48:00 New voices to watch
52:08 Wrap up and thank you
Keywords: IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Pam Dingle, Pamela Dingle, Microsoft, Identiverse 2026, agentic identity, agentic AI, non-human identity, delegation, impersonation, SPIFFE, OAuth, identity standards, IAM, digital identity, workload identity
Live from the IDAC booth at Identiverse 2026, Jeff and Jim sit down with Pam Dingle, Director of Identity Standards at Microsoft, to unpack agentic identity. Pam breaks down assistive versus autonomous agents, walks through where standards like SPIFFE and OAuth hold up, and explains the difference between delegation, impersonation, and partition. The conversation also covers credential discovery risk, shared signals and revocation, what enterprises should prioritize now, and the value of hallway conversations at Identiverse.
Connect with Pam: linkedin.com/in/pameladingle
OAuth Actor Profile for Delegation: ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mcguinness-oauth-actor-profile-00.html
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp
Jeff Steadman: linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro and Identiverse 2026 vibes
04:01 Defining agentic identity
07:06 Has the earth really shifted
11:38 An old problem thats been bejeweled
15:13 From Nulli Secundus to Microsoft
16:00 How standards are holding up
19:27 Client ID metadata and just in time trust
21:41 Shared signals and the revocation problem
24:43 Deploying agentic identity at scale
28:11 Registries at scale
29:04 Delegation authorization and attenuation
32:33 Delegation vs impersonation vs partition
36:03 The one thing you can fix right now
37:56 Favorite hallway conversation
42:29 The solar system of hallway conversations
45:51 Remembering Kim Cameron
48:00 New voices to watch
52:08 Wrap up and thank you
Keywords: IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Pam Dingle, Pamela Dingle, Microsoft, Identiverse 2026, agentic identity, agentic AI, non-human identity, delegation, impersonation, SPIFFE, OAuth, identity standards, IAM, digital identity, workload identity
