O.G. Rose | 3. Belonging Again II.1 (Book 1, Chapter I, Section 3) by O.G. Rose (Live Audio) @O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel | Uploaded July 2024 | Updated October 2024, 1 day ago.
Sign up for our July 2024 Parallax Course on Belonging Again! More information here:
parallax-media.com/courses/belonging-again-an-address-with-og-rose-6x45n?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR05K_TyEDamli8HzMmO_RvPNL7A3lYS5rtE_26Wat-rtKvtyF-NRjagLw8_aem_BBRkltscQxxxUTGsdrVERA
--------
Like the questions of “How does anyone leave Plato’s Cave on their own?” and “How might people be Children?” another question arises that gets at the same problem but from a different angle, and it arises at the very start of The Republic, as was brought to my attention by Justin Murphy. I’ve had the pleasure of being part of the Other Life community since 2019, and Mr. Murphy began organizing regular readings of the Great Books in 2023, which I’ve enjoyed immensely. On October 9th, 2023, we discussed Plato’s Republic, and Mr. Murphy drew attention to the fascinating start of the book where Socrates and Glaucon are ‘[going] down to the Piraeus […] with Glaucon […] to pray to the goddess.’ Suddenly the slave boy of Polemarchus grabs the cloak of Socrates and orders him to wait for Polemarchus; they do and Polemarchus acknowledges that Socrates and Glaucon are in a hurry ‘to get away to town,’ but then basically says that they have no choice but to stay because Polemarchus and his men are stronger than them (‘either prove stronger than these men or stay here’). It’s a strange way to start The Republic, and I think Mr. Murphy is right to draw attention to it, for it might be a way to frame everything that follows. Socrates replies to Polemarchus that there might be ‘one other possibility […] our persuading you that you must let us go.’ And Polemarchus replies with an answer that might help us understand Plato’s whole Republic:
‘Could you really persuade […] if we don’t listen?’
This is a staggering reply...
Find on Amazon today:
amazon.com/Belonging-Again-Address-Part-II-1-ebook/dp/B0D1PN8VG4?ref_=ast_author_mpb
For the full list of II.1 entries, please see:
o-g-rose-writing.medium.com/list/belonging-again-part-ii1-by-og-rose-9787b7ecc50d
Sign up for our July 2024 Parallax Course on Belonging Again! More information here:
parallax-media.com/courses/belonging-again-an-address-with-og-rose-6x45n?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR05K_TyEDamli8HzMmO_RvPNL7A3lYS5rtE_26Wat-rtKvtyF-NRjagLw8_aem_BBRkltscQxxxUTGsdrVERA
--------
Like the questions of “How does anyone leave Plato’s Cave on their own?” and “How might people be Children?” another question arises that gets at the same problem but from a different angle, and it arises at the very start of The Republic, as was brought to my attention by Justin Murphy. I’ve had the pleasure of being part of the Other Life community since 2019, and Mr. Murphy began organizing regular readings of the Great Books in 2023, which I’ve enjoyed immensely. On October 9th, 2023, we discussed Plato’s Republic, and Mr. Murphy drew attention to the fascinating start of the book where Socrates and Glaucon are ‘[going] down to the Piraeus […] with Glaucon […] to pray to the goddess.’ Suddenly the slave boy of Polemarchus grabs the cloak of Socrates and orders him to wait for Polemarchus; they do and Polemarchus acknowledges that Socrates and Glaucon are in a hurry ‘to get away to town,’ but then basically says that they have no choice but to stay because Polemarchus and his men are stronger than them (‘either prove stronger than these men or stay here’). It’s a strange way to start The Republic, and I think Mr. Murphy is right to draw attention to it, for it might be a way to frame everything that follows. Socrates replies to Polemarchus that there might be ‘one other possibility […] our persuading you that you must let us go.’ And Polemarchus replies with an answer that might help us understand Plato’s whole Republic:
‘Could you really persuade […] if we don’t listen?’
This is a staggering reply...
Find on Amazon today:
amazon.com/Belonging-Again-Address-Part-II-1-ebook/dp/B0D1PN8VG4?ref_=ast_author_mpb
For the full list of II.1 entries, please see:
o-g-rose-writing.medium.com/list/belonging-again-part-ii1-by-og-rose-9787b7ecc50d
