Collin Brooks
In this video I answer a challenge to prove the Bread of Life Discourse should be read symbolically.
updated 2 years ago
Here you can find my article defending Calvin in the same place on Substitutionary Atonement: https://resistingthewinds.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web
Here are some important quotes to further demonstrate Calvin’s position:
“65. What is the meaning of the additional clause: “He descended into hell”?That He not only suffered natural death, which is the separation of the body from the soul, but also that His soul was pierced with amazing anguish, which St. Peter calls the pains of death (Acts 2:24).
66. Why and how did that happen to Him?Because He presented Himself to God in order to make satisfaction in the name of sinners, it was necessary that He should suffer fearful distress of conscience, as if He had been forsaken by God, and even as if God had become hostile to Him. It was in this extremity that He cried, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34).” - Calvin’s Catechism
“In John Calvin's Institutes (Book II, Chapter XVI, sections 10-11), Calvin argued that the Creed did not teach that Christ descended to hell locally, but that he suffered the agonies and punishments of hell due to man. Christ did this all his life, but especially in the garden of gethsemane and on the cross, thus making satisfaction for sins by his suffering’…For Calvin, the descent into hell was a metaphor for Christ’s sufferings on the cross. This was how Calvin interpreted passages like Psalm 16:10. In the phrase ‘You will not leave my soul in Sheol,’ ‘my soul’ was understood as a metaphor for the man, and ‘Sheol’ was understood as a metaphor for ‘the grave.’ So, the promise to the Messiah was not relative to a local descent to and resurrection from the dead, but simply a promise of the resurrection of the person from the grave” (Samuel Renihan, Crux Mors Inferi, 107-108).
1) youtube.com/watch?v=2Zs0_cPmmxs&t=20s
2) youtube.com/watch?v=S1fjAnOKmcc&t=2s
And here is his refutation of the "we need an infallible interpreter to interpret the Bible" argument: youtube.com/watch?v=F6rkpvV1CNk&t=40s
Additionally, here is @TruthUnites response to Suan's argument as well as his debate with Suan himself.
1) Argument: youtube.com/watch?v=iFBoSvMsoiI
2) Debate: youtube.com/watch?v=HWVsYp2TdrE&t=6753s
I recommend everyone subscribe to both of their channels!
In the video I reference a presentation on Satisfaction in church history by Dr. Ortlund which can be viewed here: youtube.com/watch?v=doIAkUycaHM&t=962s
Docked boat sound effect can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=6yew2iusNh4
*I do apologize for the distortion of Dr. Cooper's voice. That was not done intentionally.
The introduction to this series can be watched here: youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0FD239bSZhPJHBWLj6hE8fSgwOEV4JYGs1EdJ6UTZ36RVsPl2mrcWaXJI&v=baGXHS9B1I8&feature=youtu.be
In this video I introduce the series, provide important definitions, and finish by offering the first argument in many to come.
Chrysostom on John 19:26-27,
"And He, having committed His mother to John, said, Behold your Son. O the honor! With what honor did He honor the disciple! When He Himself was now departing, He committed her to the disciple to take care of. For since it was likely that, being His mother, she would grieve, and require protection, He with reason entrusted her to the beloved. To him He says, Behold your mother. This He said, knitting them together in charity; which the disciple understanding, took her to his own home. But why made He no mention of any other woman, although another stood there? To teach us to pay more than ordinary respect to our mothers. For as when parents oppose us on spiritual matters, we must not even own them, so when they do not hinder us, we ought to pay them all becoming respect, and to prefer them before others, because they begot us, because they bred us up, because they bare for us ten thousand terrible things. And by these words He silences the shamelessness of Marcion; for if He were not born according to the flesh, nor had a mother, wherefore takes He such forethought for her alone?
Augustine,
"A passage, therefore, of a moral character is here inserted. The good Teacher does what He thereby reminds us ought to be done, and by His own example instructed His disciples that care for their parents ought to be a matter of concern to pious children: as if that tree to which the members of the dying One were affixed were the very chair of office from which the Master was imparting instruction. From this wholesome doctrine it was that the Apostle Paul had learned what he taught in turn, when he said, But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 1 Timothy 5:8 And what are so much home concerns to any one, as parents to children, or children to parents? Of this most wholesome precept, therefore, the very Master of the saints set the example from Himself, when, not as God for the hand-maid whom He had created and governed, but as a man for the mother, of whom He had been created, and whom He was now leaving behind, He provided in some measure another son in place of Himself. And why He did so, He indicates in the words that follow: for the evangelist says, And from that hour the disciple took her unto his own, speaking of himself. In this way, indeed, he usually refers to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved: who certainly loved them all, but him beyond the others, and with a closer familiarity, so that He even made him lean upon His bosom at supper; in order, I believe, in this way to commend the more highly the divine excellence of this very gospel, which He was thereafter to preach through his instrumentality.
But what was this his own, unto which John took the mother of the Lord? For he was not outside the circle of those who said to Him, Lo, we have left all, and followed You. No, but on that same occasion he had also heard the words, Every one that has forsaken these things for my sake, shall receive an hundred times as much in this world. That disciple, therefore, had an hundredfold more than he had cast away, whereunto to receive the mother of Him who had graciously bestowed it all. But it was in that society that the blessed John had received an hundredfold, where no one called anything his own, but they had all things in common; even as it is recorded in the Acts of the Apostles. For the apostles were as if having nothing, and yet possessing all things. How was it, then, that the disciple and servant received unto his own the mother of his Lord and Master, where no one called anything his own? Or, seeing we read a little further on in the same book, For as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of them, and laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need, are we not to understand that such distribution was made to this disciple of what was needful, that there was also added to it the portion of the blessed Mary, as if she were his mother; and ought we not the rather so to take the words, From that hour the disciple took her unto his own, that everything necessary for her was entrusted to his care? He received her, therefore, not unto his own lands, for he had none of his own; but to his own dutiful services, the discharge of which, by a special dispensation, was entrusted to himself."
His video can be seen here: youtube.com/watch?v=FlbpvGaiUso&t=168s
One correction: I mentioned in the video that a portion of Andy Stanley's sermon wherein he celebrated a same sex couple volunteering in church could still be viewed on Vimeo. Apparently that has been removed as well.
The sermon clip was from a sermon titled "When Gracey Met Truthy"
Additional aids for the video:
1) Here is my blog on the Didache which I referenced: resistingthewinds.wordpress.com/2020/07/15/does-the-didache-teach-a-eucharistic-sacrifice
2) Here is an interesting admission from New Advent about the historicity of the Immaculate Conception:
"In regard to the sinlessness of Mary the older Fathers are very cautious: some of them even seem to have been in error on this matter.
Origen, although he ascribed to Mary high spiritual prerogatives, thought that, at the time of Christ's passion, the sword of disbelief pierced Mary's soul; that she was struck by the poniard of doubt; and that for her sins also Christ died (Origen, "In Luc. hom. xvii").
In the same manner St. Basil writes in the fourth century: he sees in the sword, of which Simeon speaks, the doubt which pierced Mary's soul (Epistle 260).
St. Chrysostom accuses her of ambition, and of putting herself forward unduly when she sought to speak to Jesus at Capharnaum (Matthew 12:46; Chrysostom, Homily 44 on Matthew).
But these stray private opinions merely serve to show that theology is a progressive science."
3) Here is an interesting admission from a citation found at Catholic Answers on the historicity of the Bodily Assumption:
"We have known for some time that there were widespread “Transitus Stories” that date from the sixth century that teach Mary’s glorious Assumption. It was the promulgation of the dogma of the Assumption by Pope Pius XII that rekindled interest in these stories of the end of Mary’s life."
I am still having technological issues, so I apologize for the poor quality of Pastor Mike's recording.
(I had a technical difficulty while recording, which forced me to add an audio effect to the video I respond to, and I apologize for that!)
The video I critique can be seen in its entirety here: youtube.com/watch?v=5tTyiKx-iXM&t=233s
Part two can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=rmo2gByyobE
Part 1 here: youtube.com/watch?v=OB3ZAe6CjvU&t=38s
Here is a link to James White's debate with Gary Michuta on the Old Testament Canon: youtube.com/watch?v=AAoNfH1rFtE&t=5724s
Here is a link to the book I recommended: amazon.com/Canon-Revisited-Establishing-Authority-Testament/dp/1433505002
Here is a link to one of James White's debates on Sola Scriptura: youtube.com/watch?v=nxTEtArbCgs&t=3637s
Here is a link to an article that defends the "sola scripture presupposes scripture" quote discussed in the video: http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2010/01/beckwiths-bait-and-switch.html
Here is a link to a debate on the OT Canon: youtube.com/watch?v=UfMvCAU4tno


