M3RDR!!i am rehosting this map. it was originally hosted by E.J Kraft!!
_________ this has been in early access since november 2020 if you couldn't tell from zeke's old danganronpa call art
Rules- -1080 or 720p, no watermarks -Standard multifandom shipping map!! Any healthy pairings are allowed!! Tell us what you're using! -Please do not use anything from this blacklist: docs.google.com/document/d/1pEOwITZ7WPMVl0PkRKgfr7gBZpVLHVE_vSlCxD7-rog/edit -72h deadline! Please only take a part if you can finish on time, we're aiming to be finished by pride month. -Please do not include any highly suggestive / nsfw content in your parts. -Hosted in zeke stupid server u know the one discord.gg/k5Zc4xdtdb
[Rehost] [Backups Open] GUY.EXE 72H Palette Shipping MAPM3RDR2022-04-06 | !!i am rehosting this map. it was originally hosted by E.J Kraft!!
_________ this has been in early access since november 2020 if you couldn't tell from zeke's old danganronpa call art
Rules- -1080 or 720p, no watermarks -Standard multifandom shipping map!! Any healthy pairings are allowed!! Tell us what you're using! -Please do not use anything from this blacklist: docs.google.com/document/d/1pEOwITZ7WPMVl0PkRKgfr7gBZpVLHVE_vSlCxD7-rog/edit -72h deadline! Please only take a part if you can finish on time, we're aiming to be finished by pride month. -Please do not include any highly suggestive / nsfw content in your parts. -Hosted in zeke stupid server u know the one discord.gg/k5Zc4xdtdb
1-caligari (orpheus/eurydice, hadestown) ⭐⭐2-Shattered Soul (ashfur/hawkfrost, warriors) 3-zeke 4-superdelibird 5-Pretzelmintz 6-SnowiieBuns (ocs) 7-Mewzboi 8-Relaness (seinoah, l-chu) 9-JingleBells (lonqu/vaike, fe) 10-sponge (jet/spike, cowboy bebop) 11-Servrook ⭐⭐12-Redcrowz (smoe, the simpsons) 13-themebattle 14-fawnguts 15-Splinter-starz 16-Galacticring (undecided ship from pokemon) 17-Milkyology (apex legends) ⭐⭐18-Zeanie 19-birdcore (loid/yor, spyxfamily) 20-embernettles (percedal/evangelyne, wakfu) ⭐⭐21-b1rd0 (remaking) 22-astrumnyx 23-zeke theres no 24 oops 25-maxxies (sayotsugu, bandori)aw tysm :)M3RDR2022-09-23 | i love kawoshin i cant believe theyre both autistic and mlm #lovewins if this uploads as a short im going to commit a war crime
audio source: youtube.com/shorts/_eDaKVMskR4[13+] DISCORD | Completed Anything MAPM3RDR2022-08-02 | !!CW FOR BRIGHT COLORS/EYE STRAIN AND MILD FLASHING IMAGES!!
it's done it's finally done i'm free this map was originally hosted by servrook, thank you for letting me rehost it, and tysm to all participants for making this map amazing.
also extra thank u to galacticring for adding lyrics to a part on short notice i owe u my life.
song: the living tombstone - discord[13+] PERSONAL JESUS PMV [Artfight Attack]M3RDR2022-07-26 | clearly you don't own an airfryer.
this is an artfight friendly fire revenge for gabriel featuring his lobotomy corporation ocs cuz he chose violence towards me and i chose violence right back 🔪
i'm very happy with how this pmv turned out and i'm proud of myself for finishing such a huge project in such a short time frame! i've had the idea for this pmv for like months, but as per artfight rules i didn't do any work on it before july, so it was a Lot. also forgot to add this earlier but here's the very loose script for thsi pmv in case u want it, it might make things less confusing idk: docs.google.com/document/d/1II4AzGhdOjbqB7gMudLDcHXzqfkt9Z9t5-7ubWbBfhU/edit?usp=sharing
programs used: firealpaca (art), hitfilm express (editing) additional credits for some bg assets: pixabay, gifcities
also disclaimer i don't support mindless self indulgence.[13+] NEW LIGHT Meme [Artfight Attack!]M3RDR2022-07-17 | 🟣🟢
did another animation meem attack on impulse oops :) this one's for spronk sugarsprink!
original meem: youtube.com/watch?v=7xwkJZzSPbs inspo: youtube.com/watch?v=qmR4cAlPRFQ[13+] GOOD IN ME Meme [Artfight Attack]M3RDR2022-07-15 | cw for some minor blood/death but nothing major. this is an artfight attack for VYZEE!! all the characters in the video belong to her!
pretty proud of how this turned out, though the tweening is a bit meh in some places.
original meme: youtube.com/watch?v=fUtcUaWGsNo some inspo was taken from sagutoyas version: youtube.com/watch?v=YH8bADXSb68💙💚 Spicy Boyfriend Meme (gift 4 GalacticRing!)M3RDR2022-02-18 | this is a 6 month anniversary gift for my amazing bf Benjamin ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ ilysm u nerd
i would have liked to put more/better animation into this, but vaccine side effects have been kicking my ass, i did most of this meme while feverish with a killer headache gksjdhgksdg
song: shawn wasabi - spicy boyfriend original meme: i cant actually seem to find who did the og meme, but i took some inspo from Little Ruby Rue: youtube.com/watch?v=rdR-jwHy7-M Kazuallyy: youtube.com/watch?v=8wWZLKwjxiM characters: M3RDR (my sona, the raccoon) and Database (benny's sona, the painted dog!)[13+] Bad Romance MAP // part 11 [charlie parker] collab with GalacticRing!M3RDR2022-01-11 | full map: youtube.com/watch?v=8_ATCPqLsIQ
this is a collab part with my bf galacticring tysm for helping me speedrun this part my lov i owe u my life subscribe to him or else... youtube.com/channel/UCnxEDlcXpMqZ5LUNdcCZOtA
redid one of my old parts for this map cuz it was godawful and the full maps droppin soon... :3 old part if any1 cares: youtube.com/watch?v=KsAYV5xlkOg i wont be redoing my other part for this map since 1. i dont have time or energy and 2. i actually like my other bad romance part a lot still.
uhhh map call not needed since im literally the last person to finish kjsjdhgkjsd
characters: louis, angel[13+] a very short map part compilationM3RDR2021-12-31 | i am so sorry this is so short, happy new year i hate being mentally ill[13+] Go Tell Aunt Rhody | Halloween MAP // part 4 [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-10-28 | EUGHHGHGHGGHDHGBJ, map call: youtube.com/watch?v=XLjMU7cW6L0 fandom: charlie parker
script: (past) a Mysterious Man(TM) who is totally not a murderer shows up in a bar and gives bob (charlie's grandpa, the cat with a moustache) a not so subtle hint on where to find the missing girls, then a horrified bob finds the mutilated bodies of five of the girls hanging from a tree. cut to present time, charlie and walter are confronted by caleb kyle (aka the Killer aka the dude from the bar) i dont own charlie parker
also i had to completely bs charlie's grandpa's design because theres like. basically No physical description of him in the books, and i couldnt even base his design off of charlie because [redacted due to spoiler reasons][13+] Youth PMV MAP // part 3 [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-09-27 | uhhh forgot to put it in the video but also cw for nooses for one frame.
thx for watching[13+] You Smell Like Gay Kittens | Completed Catified Gay Shipping Spoof MAPM3RDR2021-06-30 | so this is a 72 HR map... that I hosted last year. but hey it got done before the end of pridemonth so :D it turned out delightfully cursed and im happy with it ❤️❤️ special thanks to b1rd0, skateboard boyfriend and vyzee for helping me get this out on time
song: you smell like gay kittens by min mammas klimaxartfight announcement yeehawM3RDR2021-06-29 | artfight time!!!! my commissions will also be closed during july cuz of this
audio: youtube.com/watch?v=48RmCmX9Fcsplaying jackbox w viewers cuz its my birthdayM3RDR2021-04-26 | playing trivia murder party 2 (and some joke boat)!! note: even if the room is full, you can join and play as the audience!
chat rules: -keep it pg13 -im not taking requests -behave yourself or get yeetedplaying jackbox w viewers cuz its my birthdayM3RDR2021-04-26 | playing trivia murder party 2 (and some joke boat)!! note: even if the room is full, you can join and play as the audience!
chat rules: -keep it pg13 -im not taking requests -behave yourself or get yeeted[13+] Follow You | 24HR Platonic Relationship MAP // part 28-29 [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-04-09 | this looks pretty abysmal but its been like 3 weeks for a 24 hr map so ghsdkgkshdg. anyway boomer friendship makes me emotional like ik i talk a lot abt angel and louis cuz i love them but shjgksjkhjfghfj i rly dont talk enough abt their friendship w charlie cuz that is so good and makes me cry like a baby every day the way theyre there for each other and WHAHWAHWAHWAHAH
characters: charlie parker, louis, angel script: basically the scene shown in the cutoff i dont own charlie parker[13+] Jeff The Killer SpeedpaintM3RDR2021-04-04 | since today's both Rat day and Down With Cis day, i thought it'd be appropriate if i drew jeff the killer.
song: futret - cupcakes i dont own jeff the killerTEH MOST EPIC MAP PART EVER NOT CLICKBAIT!!!!!M3RDR2021-04-01 | the reapers, 2007. fun fact this is actually my first map part of 2021 i just didnt upload it before because it's boomer chipmunks.
i dont own charlie parker, which is probably for the bestinsanityM3RDR2021-03-28 | i like the charlie parker series by irish author john connolly a perfectly normal amount[13+ My Name Is Carnival MAP // part 8 [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-02-24 | i feel like the books dont rly. acknowledge enough that charlie literally beat a dude (who 100% deserved it) to death with his bare fists at one point, its pretty metal. also i need to stop picking sad map parts to work on because they Hurt.
sorry this looks kinda rancid i am out of practice with tweening especially gjsdhjkgsdg.... i originally wanted to do some More with this part but sometimes u jsut gotta know when to Not.
for saturnskyez & astrumnyx's map (im pretty sure im the last person out so im not gonna link the call)
script: charlie killz johnny friday to vent his anger and grief, but at the end of the day it won't bring his wife and child back, or avenge their deaths ;_;
charlie parker belongs to john connolly who i sincerely hope never sees this[13+] Honeybee Shipping MAP // part 13 [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-01-15 | REUPLOAD cuz my dumbass uploaded the map part itself not the yt ver 🤡
characters: louis, angel charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly[13+] PURRFECT! Animation Meme [charlie parker]M3RDR2021-01-11 | first upload of the year and its this im so fuckign sorry, vyzee and the rest of the horror gays server cyberbullied me into drawing catboy boomer ass.
also this is, i guess, a Slight tribute to this fic archiveofourown.org/works/274679 even within the nonexistant charlie parker fandom im still not the only one who said "catboy angel" he just has that cursed kinda energy ig.
i dont own charlie parker which is probably for the best, john if you ever see this i am sincerely so sorry2020 MAP partsM3RDR2020-12-31 | epilepsy warnings: 03:44 to 03:49 and 04:50 to 04:58
MAP = "multi animator project", if you're here looking for the other meaning, please go and die.
this is significantly shorter than last year's comp cuz this year sucked ass and i have the pression, i hope 2021 will b better
chat rules: -keep it pg13 -im not taking requests -behave yourself or get yeeted[13+] 2 MAP parts (Cant Fight This Feeling, Animal Cannibal) [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-12-25 | yeehaw content
can't fight this feeling (anything christmas map) part 9 - for E.J Kraft see the completed map here: youtu.be/pjAwGPBhdek this ones a collab w E.J Kraft and VYZEE youtube.com/channel/UCEcp_rJNZ5nVDVnx7jZFfYA youtube.com/channel/UClhTBcO7GSuXDGNe65Emg3A vyz did the first background and zeke did the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, i owe them both my life cuz i hate drawing backgrounds and would never have finished this part w/o their help (drawing the bg for the last shot took like 50 years off my life i am dead as im typing this) anywa y this is just wholesome boomers hanging out. this part takes place after the wolf in winter, which is why charlie's design is Slightly Altered (if you know you know), this also means its an au where jackie garner is alive cuz i rly liked jackie and im very sad. also rachel and macy are dating because idk i like them. also can you tell that i bought hitfilms puppet tool on a sale and im now appying it to literally everything jsut cuz i can even tho it makes my computer melt.
characters: i do not feel like listing them all sorry
animal cannibal (anything halloween map) part 6 - for myself see the completed map here: youtube.com/watch?v=pJTVdyQmqlI i have like nothing to say abt this one its just charlie and the main villains in the earlier books cuz it rly fits, he rly DOES meet the strangest fecking men and they always seem to find him mr parker just cant catch a break. i still cant believe i spent so much effort on tweening brightwells gross neck bulge 2 make it Throb. characters: charlie and a variety of wh0res hes had to deal with
the charlie parker series belongs 2 john connolly who i sincerely hope never sees this. designs are by medoes a gay little dance that pisses u off (silent/bring ur own music)M3RDR2020-12-22 | working on commissions and art trades. art trades are closed atm (and i mainly do ATs with friends/ppl i share server with sry), but commissions are open!! mercomms.carrd.co
chat rules: -keep it pg13 -im not taking requests -behave urself or get yeeted[13+] ANIMAL CANNIBAL // Completed Halloween MAPM3RDR2020-10-31 | HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!
wheeee i was afraid this wasn't gonna get done on time but we pulled through tysm to all participants! this map came out amazing! i was going for a "various clips on a cursed vhs tape" feel and everyone really captured that vibe im so happy with this map 💕💕💕
credits art by VYZEE! btw big shoutout to vyzee for doing an emergency backup part in literally a few hours on super short notice i owe u my life
music: animal cannibal strange looking man both from cecelia condit's short film "possibly in michigan" youtube.com/watch?v=iLJNSD3H5sg[13+] Exxus 72HR MAP // part 29 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-10-18 | i spent like 4 hours on the spinny asset thing and its only on screen for like 1 second i hate life. but yessss halloween map time,, so glad i got 2 do a part for this map cuz the palette is so good and the song gives me big ol charlie parker vibes.
characters: charlie parker, random ppl who got fed to the town's God, jennifer, cutoff also features louis and angel script: the wolf in winter (if you knoww you know) charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly who i sincerely hope never sees this[13+] Dont Stop // Villain MAP // part 11 [the evil within]M3RDR2020-10-11 | 2 map parts in a row that arent boomer related??? what has the world come to???????
catified ruvik is like the least intimidating thing ever tbh he just looks like a crispy goblin.
characters: sebastian castellanos, ruvik script: that one elevator scene where ruvik is bein a lil bitch you know the one. i don't own the evil within[13+] Another One Bites The Dust // Glam Rock Tigerstar MAP // part 18 (collab with Shummy!)M3RDR2020-10-10 | tigerstar murders an infant not clickbait
this part is a collab with Shummy, the storyboard and some of the art was done by them! their channel: youtube.com/c/Shummy33
ended up speeedrunning this, drawin glam rock cats is fun and i especially love firestar's glam rock design so im glad i got to draw him!!!
fandom: warriors characters: gorsepaw, tigerstar, firestar and tallstar!![13+] RAWR SpeedpaintM3RDR2020-10-04 | i was gifted this wonderful emo bastard by my friend disty so heres a quick doodle of them, their name is spike btw!!! twitter.com/distykisaragi/status/1310739018464845825
music: "hellcat" by desmeon[13+] Go Far Kid Emo Catified Fandom MAP // part 5 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-10-01 | DANCE FUCKER DANCE!!!
FINALLY FINISHED ANOTHER MAP PARTTTT this took me way too long lol. anyway this entire song just. rly fits with louis backstory so i went a bit feral.
characters: louis, gabriel script: louis commits some murder and gabriel recruits him as one of his reapers charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly[13+] Charlie Parker Lineless SpeedpaintM3RDR2020-09-29 | "They come to me and I am no longer alone."
decided to do a lineless painting-esque thing because i jsut hate myself that much i guess
characters: charlie parker, susan, jennifer the charlie parker series belongs to john connollyIf You Supply The Paint | Complete Anything PMV MAPM3RDR2020-09-17 | POGGERS its finally here and it looks so good!!!! thank u so much for participating everyone you made this map amazing 💛🧡💙
characters: the collector (feral lykoi bastard), charlie parker (emo tuxedo bastard) script: that one scene at the end of the unquiet where charlie tries 2 grab the collector and he's just like No.
charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly who i sincerely hope never ever sees this.[13+] Rolling Girl 1 Week MAP // part 28 [angels of death]M3RDR2020-08-24 | hi sorry for like dying for 2 months ive been dealing with a major art block jhdksdg but today i somehow had a productivity spike and did an entire map part in 1 sitting, idk if this good fortune will last but fingers crossed? either way enjoy
script: zack learning abt ray's past and ray going slightly ape shitt
i dont own satsuten[13+] Stupid Love MAP // part 4 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-06-21 | i may be stupid
for me & beth-is-a-dolphin's map, not linking it since this is the last part its finally done i h,,gjgjjkdg
sry for not uploading anything in forever, art block and menthol illness has been beating me to death for a while but anyway here r some more gay boomer cats i love them so much.,,,,,
idk what else 2 say its like 3 am ive been editing this for several hours and igmjdssjgkg,sd,gmnfgf,, h
characters: angel & louis
charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly who i sincerely hope never ever sees this[CLOSED] [kinda loud] You Smell Like Gay Kittens 72HR Catified Gay Shipping MAP [17/18 DONE]M3RDR2020-06-09 | WARNING: song gets kinda loud and screamy in places
happy pride month i crave death
rules: -1 part/person (backups can take moar) -gay ships only. nothing from blacklist: docs.google.com/document/d/1pEOwITZ7WPMVl0PkRKgfr7gBZpVLHVE_vSlCxD7-rog/edit and no like morally abhorrent ships -tell me what ur using when u comment gkjshdgkjshkgjsdg -you must draw all characters as cats (feral only no anthro) -participants and backups must join the discord discord.gg/tRpV4pU -this is a spoof-ish map so its not super serious, put some effort into it but it doesnt have to be a masterpiece, and feel free to go ham with cursed memes n stuff -no n s f w or offensive stuff -if you have part 11, pls do not make any aids jokes or i will steal ur kneecaps. -no palette, just use the characters usual colors, and incorporate rainbows in the bg somehow -watermarks r allowed -deadline is 72 hours after map closes, this isnt supposed to be a very complicated/amazing looking map so ill be a bit stricter with the deadline than i usually am but ala its done before the end of pride month its all good
characters in call: wilardo and ashe (witch's heart)[13+] Wolf Link Speedpaint (art trade with ToothlessTDM!)M3RDR2020-06-03 | my part of an art trade with ToothlessTDM!!! go sub 2 tooth btw her art is godly youtube.com/channel/UCGKi0luil259QleHi_dsWrA
character by nintendo, wolf design by ToothlessTDM![13+] Just One Yesterday 72HR PMV MAP // part 1 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-05-30 | "joy" more like im fucking miserable!
characters: angel (charlie parker) script: book 3's ending. ig this is lowkey a vent
charlie parker belongs to john connolly who i sincerely hope never sees this but in case u r reading this mr connolly please please leave angel alone hes suffered enough pls jsut let htis man be happy im begging u[13+] Sound The Bugle Anything MAP // part 6 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-05-29 | im trying to cut down on the amount of maps i join due to Stress, but spirit was one of my childhood fav movies and this song always makes me tear up and also it REALLY REALLY fits mr charlie parker soooo more emo boomer cat content it is.
script: charlie mourns susan and jennifer at their grave, before turning around and walking away. behind him, their ghosts materialize.
charlie parker belongs to john connolly who i sincerely hope never ever sees this[13+] Life Itself 1 week MAP // part 47 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-05-24 | i hate the 3rd shot but aside from that im really really happy with this part, also if i ever have to draw fricking leafs again im quitting
script: that one scene in dark hollow where charlie has ghost tub nightmare visions and louis calms him down cuz idk that scene was kinda sweet imo. man i remember back when i was reading dark hollow, before my life was ruined...
charlie parker belongs to john connolly who i sincerely hope never sees this[13+] 2 shipping MAP parts (READ DESCRIPTION)M3RDR2020-05-22 | UPDATE: these parts have been updated, pls see my post here for details: youtube.com/post/Ugwou1-8FgHYMuVAk3R4AaABCQ
me?? drawing humans?????? its more likely than u think. if ur wondering why these parts look so crusty its cuz i have genuinely forgotten what humans look like since ive only been drawing cats lately and im trying to like. get back into drawing occasional humans (dw i'll draw lots of emo cats still)
but anyway angel and louis are very good i care them,,
when u try to steal a tv but u end up stealing a man's heart instead its like, what u gonna do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sunkissed part 23 for superdelibird: youtube.com/watch?v=IebsmY2H5Fg rule for this map was to draw one or both characters with freckles and i chose both cuz i like freckles also i hope the shading in this part looks good cuz doing it killed me
charlie parker belongs to john connolly[13+] Wolf In Sheeps Clothing Anything 2 Week MAP // part 19 [creepypasta oc]M3RDR2020-05-18 | thank u youtube for blessing me with the thumbnail
god this took me SOOOOO much longer than it should have, shoutout to charlie for putting up with my clownery and giving me more extensions than i rly deserved kjghsdkjghsdkgdsjghkj
characters: malik, tess (catified) for once i used my own characters (which is part of the reason why this took so long, i jsut dont care abt my own ocs enough ig)[13+] [FLASHING] Thoughts And Prayers 72HR MAP // part 21 + 38 [charlie parker, creepypasta]M3RDR2020-05-15 | pls mind the eye strain/flashing images warning im not messing around here i went full on unhinged feral with these parts lol.
characters in part 21: charlie parker, susan, jennifer script: charlie's tormented by visions of his dead wife n child, then some symbolic bs with wings (specifically based on that one dream he has in the killing kind) characters in part 38: eyeless jack, jenny script: the ritual where ej gets his eyes removed and becomes eyeless jack
charlie parker belongs to john connolly eyeless jack belongs to azelf5000, and the unofficial origin story part 38 is based on was written by la-mishi-mish![13+, blood] Rat-A-Tat Multifandom PMV MAP // part 28 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-05-14 | *TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU* more boomer furries because im emo yeehaw. sidenote i hate how much i like my bobby sciorra design because im most likely never gonna use him for another map part again dude's in like half a book before he dies. for ejkraft: youtube.com/watch?v=FKiBbNDNpgc
characters: dead child who i forgot the name of, charlie parker, louis, angel, bobby sciorra script: the warehouse scene, the Gang finds the murdered child, the bobby sciorra shows up n threatens charlie but angel appears and sciorra's like OH GOD OH F before louis vibe checks him charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly
cutoff audio: youtube.com/watch?v=dNQs_Bef_V8[13+] On Top 72hr Fandom PMV MAP // part 14 [charlie parker]M3RDR2020-05-11 | (shes not dead in the last shot lol jsut sedated) hello sorry for the lack of uploads i accidentally started hyperfixating on charlie parker (the book series), and now my life is ruined i love and care these boomers so mcuhnm,sghhdk, so i guess drawing obscure boomer horror novel characters as furries is what im doing with my life now cool.
o yea i know i have a lot of younger followers so i feel like i should mention that this book series is not for kids its pretty darn graphic and horrifying and also rly depressing i love it dearly but oh my god im sosad
characters: rachel wolfe, charlie parker, angel, louis. script: basically a highly compressed version of the latter half of every dead thing charlie parker belongs 2 john connolly who i hope never sees this[13+, GORE] SEVEN Anything Palette MAP // part 27 [final destination 3]M3RDR2020-05-05 | for beth-is-a-dolphin: youtube.com/watch?v=LGqUjfwBrrQbeth made me care abt final destination 3 and now im sad
idk what else to say abt htis[13+] [blood] The Carpal Tunnel Of Love Catified 2009 Emo MAP // part 7, 19M3RDR2020-05-02 | i killed cringe culture and pissed on its grave.
i hope this looks 2009 authentic enough i had to physically restrain myself from doing too much tweening gsdhgsdjkghskdg.
fandom for part 7 is creepypasta, specifically jeff the killer fandom for part 19 is exactly what you think it is but im not gonna type it out because Youtube is Youtube and i dont wanna take the risk. either way i dont own either.