Saints Unscripted
Mormon child abuse article by the AP | with Jennifer Roach
updated
WE LOVE YOU, LOUISA!!
0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Beginning of mental health struggles
2:09 - Dating a member of the Church of Jesus Christ
3:15 - Louisa starts looking into religion for happiness and light
4:49 - Dating and religion analogy
6:05 - Attending Colgate University
7:32 - A professor that treats all religions with reverence
9:11 - Louisa shares her mental health suffering
11:10 - Louisa is sent to an intensive outpatient program for her eating disorder
12:25 - Joseph Smith being overcome with darkness
13:30 - Meeting missionaries and studying religion
15:00 - The Law of Chastity and morality
16:13 - Was there a rock bottom experience?
18:23 - Finding a life worth living
19:39 - George Albert Smith illnesses
22:10 - George Albert Smith asks God to take his life
23:55 - Your struggle is part of your testimony
25:12 - Christ appears when we go through darkness
26:30 - Louisa decides to call the missionaries
29:30 - The missionaries met Louisa where she was without an agenda
30:30 - Louisa is prompted to join the church
31:20 - Praying to meet her husband
33:20 - Challenges of being a new member
34:30 - We cannot help and heal others unless we are able and willing to bear our wounds to others
36:50 - BE A WOUNDED HEALER!
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Spiritual experiences helped Stephen through faith crises
2:43 - Disclaimer!
4:07 - There are evidences to the Book of Mormon
5:29 - The miraculous coming forth of the Book of Mormon
7:15 - The stories shared in the Book of Mormon are wildly complex
11:48 - Witnesses of the gold plates show the authenticity of the Book of Mormon
14:06 - The Book of Mormon prophecies of the 3 witnesses
16:55 - Either the witnesses were telling the truth or were tricked
18:40 - The witnesses were respected men
19:05 - Old word geography convergences
24:30 - The circumstances of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon
25:00 - Ancient names and literary elements
27:45 - If/and conditionals in the original manuscript of the Book of Mormon
31:20 - Geography of the Book of Mormon
35:50 - It’s not entirely impossible that the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica
37:50 - Read the Book of Mormon!
39:25 - Trust your personal experiences
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0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Thriving LDS Singles
1:40 - Kim moved to Arizona and became active in the church
2:15 - 40+ year old single community is uncelebrated
3:30 - Feeling like a failure being single
4:06 - Challenges of being single as a 40+ year old
5:30 - Empty nesting as a single person
6:40 - Single and retired phase
8:40 - What would you do differently if you went back in time?
10:00 - Keanu Reeves quote
11:30 - Learning how to be an individual and be comfortable with yourself
13:20 - We are meant to be in families and relationships
16:40 - Singledom challenges are challenges in and outside of the church
18:00 - The most important relationship is your relationship with God
20:05 - How singles are looked down on
22:45 - Programs in the church to utilize
24:40 - Building a network when you’re single
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Valiant Jones joined us to share his insights in finding connections between the Book of Mormon and the temple. The connections he has found are so clear and perfect and life-changing as you read and study about the temple and temple covenants. Thank you for joining us, Valiant!
0:00 - Introduction
0:50 - Valiant first discovers the connections between the temple and Book of Mormon
2:42 - After retirement, Valiant dedicates his time to explaining his findings
4:21 - Going to the temple to notice more connections to the Book of Mormon
5:25 - Obedience in the Book of Mormon
6:50 - The Doctrine of Christ in the Book of Mormon
7:55 - The Atonement in the Book of Mormon
9:10 - Chastity in the Book of Mormon
9:40 - Consecration in the Book of Mormon
11:40 - What about Enos and Jarom?
13:20 - Connection between the prayer role and the Book of Mormon
15:10 - Each book in the Book of Mormon has a sub-theme
18:38 - Quote by Elder Bednar
20:15 - Noticing the temple in other ancient rituals
21:54 - Testimony and final thoughts
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Frankie shares a bit about his background
2:05 - First experiences with LDS culture
3:15 - Reading the Book of Mormon for the first time
6:05 - The big things that brought Frankie to church
7:33 - Meeting the missionaries
9:22 - Meeting the Bishop of the ward
10:40 - Breaking the news to Frankie’s parents
13:40 - Frankie’s parents warm up to the church
15:18 - Going on Trek!
16:25 - First Stake Conference and meeting some General Authorities
19:00 - Getting parental approval to be baptized
19:50 - BAPTISM!
21:15 - Frankie’s testimony
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One of the focal points of our conversation is the role of religion in the quest for truth. We delve into the notion that religious teachings offer profound insights into truth, particularly as exemplified in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Church of Jesus Christ. We examine how these spiritual frameworks provide a pathway to understanding truth and living meaningful lives.
Join us as we navigate the complexities of truth-seeking and discover the transformative power of embracing truth in all its forms.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:36 - A Facebook request that changes Louis’ life
1:30 - First time going to church
2:30 - First experience with the spirit
4:00 - A 22-month journey
5:24 - Difficulty in waiting
6:39 - Louis prays in the temple and receives an answer
9:23 - Binge watching conversion stories
10:18 - Finding Jesus Christ first
11:23 - Standing in Holy places brings peace
13:32 - Why crying is GOOD!
15:32 - Teaching Sunday School as a recent convert
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0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Amber shares more about herself
2:27 - Being raised by hippies
4:05 - Adopting 15 kids and living off of the land
5:52 - Being a hippie in the church
8:25 - Differences in being a hippie and not being a hippie in the church
10:42 - Why social media?
11:25 - Sharing is necessary in these last days
13:50 - The spirit tells Amber what to share
15:45 - The gospel is for everyone!
17:36 - Being a mother with a hippie background
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Whether you're a member of the LDS community, someone curious about Mormonism, or simply interested in religious discourse, this video offers valuable insights and perspectives. Join the conversation as we unpack the messages shared during this impactful General Conference and contemplate their relevance in today's world.
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Video transcript: saintsunscripted.com/faith-and-beliefs/the-restoration-of-christs-church/justifiable-to-call-joseph-smith-a-martyr
— “Joseph and Hyrum Smith’s Martyrdom,” Q&A via Mormonr: tinyurl.com/ycyy4jur
— List of primary sources regarding the martyrdom via Mormonr.org: tinyurl.com/2da4eu8w
— “Untouchable: Joseph Smith's Use of the Law as Catalyst for Assassination,” by Alex D. Smith in the Journal of the Illinois State Historical Society, Vol. 112, No. 1 (Spring 2019), pp. 8-42: tinyurl.com/zfss249k
— “Physical Evidence at Carthage Jail and What It Reveals about the Assassination of Joseph and Hyrum Smith,” by Joseph L. Lyon & David W. Lyon (BYU Studies): tinyurl.com/29zz4spw
— “Joseph Smith, a True Martyr,” by Daniel Bachman: tinyurl.com/2s3kh2jm
— “Question: Is the definition of a Christian martyr always understood only as one who does not fight back?” via FAIR: tinyurl.com/44em6n98
— “Was Joseph Smith a Martyr or a Murderer?” by Lance Starr (FAIR): tinyurl.com/53ykj2zz
— Suggested reading:
— “Rough Stone Rolling,” by Richard Bushman
— “Carthage Conspiracy,” by Oaks & Marvin
— “Joseph: Exploring the Life and Ministry of the Prophet,” by Black & Skinner
— “Know Brother Joseph,” edited by Smith, Godfrey, & Grow
Notes:
— Imagine two Christians who are about to get eaten by lions in the Roman colosseum. Both were willing to die before renouncing their beliefs. One of them lies limp on the ground while the lion eats him. The other struggles, and hits the lion in the face as he’s being eaten. Is the struggling Christian no longer a martyr because he resisted the lion? I find the "requirement" that “a true martyr doesn’t resist death” to be unrealistically narrow.
— Webster’s 1828 Dictionary and the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English cast a medium-sized net, in that they require death (not just suffering), but do not require a willing or voluntary death. Webster’s 1828: tinyurl.com/5n7fudep / Longman: tinyurl.com/4duz2nz4
— After Joseph and the others turned themselves in to authorities, Vilate Kimball wrote in a letter to her husband, “My heart said Lord bless those Dear men, and presurve them from those that thirst for their blood. Their giveing themselves up, is all that will save our city from destruction.” Source: Vilate Kimball Letter to Heber C. Kimball, June 9, 1844 (she doesn’t complete the letter until many days later).
— From History of the Church (6:551), as Joseph returned to Nauvoo to turn himself in to the authorities: “About 4 P.M. Joseph, Hyrum, the Doctor and others started back. While walking towards the river, Joseph fell behind with Orrin P. Rockwell. The other shouted to come on. Joseph replied, ‘It is of no use to hurry, for we are going back to be slaughtered….’”
— Joseph deliberated with others about whether to go into hiding or turn himself in. According to a report from Abraham C. Hodge, this is how it went down (recorded in History of the Church, 6:545. “‘Brethren, here is a letter from the Governor which I wish to have read.[’] After it was read through Joseph remarked, ‘There is no mercy—no mercy here.’ Hyrum said, ‘No; just as sure as we fall into their hands we are dead men.’ Joseph replied, ‘Yes; what shall we do, Brother Hyrum?’” They then decided to go into hiding (though only briefly).
— “I told Stephen Markham that if I and Hyrum were ever taken again we should be massacred, or I was not a prophet of God. I want Hyrum to live to avenge my blood, but he is determined not to leave me.” (History of the Church 6:546). For what it’s worth, Edward Tullidge reported that the reason Joseph wanted Hyrum to live was “to lead the Church,” not “to avenge my blood” (see note in HoC 6:546).
— While in hiding, Joseph and Hyrum were trying to decide whether they should flee or turn themselves in. History of the Church 6:549 records the following: “Joseph … said, ‘Brother Hyrum, you are the oldest, what shall we do?’ Hyrum said, ‘Let us go back and give ourselves up, and see the thing out.’ After studying a few moments, Joseph said, ‘If you go back I will go with you, but we shall be butchered.’ Hyrum said, ‘No, no; let us go back and put our trust in God, and we shall not be harmed. The Lord is in it. If we live or have to die, we will be reconciled to our fate.’”
— “I know what I say; I understand my mission and business. God Almighty is my shield; and what can man do if God is my friend? I shall not be sacrificed until my time comes; then I shall be offered freely” (History of the Church 5:259).
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0:00 - Introduction
0:55 - Growing up in American Fork, UT
2:55 - Attending a church and being baptized
4:00 - Meeting her boyfriend
6:33 - Abuse ramps up
9:20 - Prayer for relief and for happiness
10:30 - The worst year of Kaitlyn’s life
11:30 - Kaitlyn’s best friend returns home from his mission
13:15 - Attending church for the first time
15:00 - Kaitlyn asks ALL the questions
16:40 - An answer finally comes
19:20 - First experience with the Holy Ghost
21:45 - Kaitlyn gets married!
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Video transcript: saintsunscripted.com/faith-and-beliefs/the-restoration-of-christs-church/did-joseph-smith-kill-any-attackers-at-carthage-jail
— “Joseph Smith’s death: 96-hour timeline surrounding his martyrdom,” via Church News: tinyurl.com/2dwxy28x
— “John Taylor's June 27, 1854, Account of the Martyrdom,” by LaJean P. Carruth & Mark L. Staker (BYU Studies): tinyurl.com/3tefxxf7
— “The Martyrdom of Joseph Smith and His Brother Hyrum,” by Dan Jones (intro by Ronald Dennis), via BYU Studies: tinyurl.com/bde9xrhb
— “William Vorhease and the Murder of Joseph Smith,” by Joseph Johnston (John Whitmer Historical Association Journal, Vol. 35, No. 1, pgs 38-61): tinyurl.com/mr2n59ps
— “Return to Carthage: Writing the History of Joseph Smith’s Martyrdom,” by Dean C. Jessee (Journal of Mormon History, vol. 8 [1981], pgs. 3-19): tinyurl.com/3k9ch97y
— “The Mormon Trials,” New York Herald, June 10, 1845 (page 2). Supposedly a reprint of an earlier article by the Missouri Republican: tinyurl.com/4v6n45b4
— “Joseph and Hyrum Smith’s Martyrdom,” via Mormonr.org: tinyurl.com/ycyy4jur
— List of primary sources regarding the martyrdom via Mormonr.org: tinyurl.com/2da4eu8w
— “Physical Evidence at Carthage Jail and What It Reveals about the Assassination of Joseph and Hyrum Smith,” by Joseph L. Lyon & David W. Lyon (BYU Studies): tinyurl.com/29zz4spw
— “Road to Martyrdom: Joseph Smith’s Last Legal Cases,” by Joseph I. Bentley (BYU Studies): tinyurl.com/mrxdeeku
— “Joseph Smith, a True Martyr,” by Daniel Bachman: tinyurl.com/2s3kh2jm
— “Was Joseph Smith a Martyr or a Murderer?” by Lance Starr (FAIR): tinyurl.com/53ykj2zz
— “Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt,” chapter 52 (Townsend story): tinyurl.com/mw8r3ts6
— “Jeremiah Willey statement, 1844 August 13,” via the Church History Catalog: tinyurl.com/bd7mfbbr
— An image of the pepperbox pistol Joseph likely used at Carthage: tinyurl.com/mr39sfrz
— “The Mormon Prophet’s Tragedy,” by John M. Hay (Atlantic Monthly, Dec. 1869 issue): tinyurl.com/2v8u25az
— We know more about Voras (Vorhease) than the other two injured men. This article shows he was alive and well decades after the attack: tinyurl.com/mr2n59ps
— Most scholars assert that Joseph fired 3 shots from his pistol (including renowned critic, Fawn Brodie). However, 25 years after Carthage, the Atlantic Monthly (linked above) reported that Joseph had actually shot four times, and injured a fourth man, who the article does not name, because he was “preparing to prove an alibi.” Some researchers (see “Carthage Conspiracy,” by Oaks and Marvin, pg. 52) believe the 4th man might have been a Mr. Allen (possibly Nathan N. Allen, see fn 22 on pg. 61), who was also indicted but also didn’t show up. We don’t know much about Mr. Allen, but I’m unaware of any specific claims that he died as a result of his wounds. His indictment and apparent “preparations to prove an alibi” (whatever that may mean in 1869) suggest he was alive. The author of the Atlantic article was only 5 years old at the time of the murders, and he gets some details quite wrong (i.e. he wrote that Joseph had “two loaded six-barrelled revolvers” at his disposal).
— Joseph and Hyrum overheard Dan Jones’ conversation with Worrell. Afterwards, Joseph asked Dan to tell the governor about the threat. Dan did so, but the governor didn’t take him seriously. When Dan returned to the jail, he was not allowed back in. Fun fact: Franklin Worrell was later killed by Porter Rockwell.
— Dean Jessee reported that Fullmer’s pockets were searched before he was allowed to enter the jail, but the single-shot pistol was in his boot.
See Pg. 7 here: tinyurl.com/b4fubay3
— I cited a lot of resources in this video. For links to those that are available online, see the relevant hyperlinks in the transcript of this episode on our website, SaintsUnscripted.com.
— According to Alva Matheson, [John M.?] Higbee said that Charles Fancher “was one of the mob who killed old Joe Smith and that he still had his (Smith’s) pistol, the one that he shot through the jail house door with killing one of Fancher’s friends.” This should be taken with a grain of salt, though, as it’s a late, non-first-hand source, and another report tells the story differently (a man claiming to have the gun that killed Joseph, not the gun that Joseph used to kill someone else). See pg. 60 of this JWHA article for analysis and citations: tinyurl.com/mr2n59ps
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0:00 - Introduction
0:34 - Conner talks about his desire to share his story
1:23 - The first 6 months on Conner’s mission was incredible
2:25 - Unfortunately, Conner is paired with his MTC companion who was unkind and seemingly uncaring about the work
3:30 - A sprained ankle is the catalyst for a tender mercy -- a realization in therapy and an experience back at home
5:40 - While in the temple, Conner receives an important answer to his question
6:10 - Conner goes back to the mission field
8:29 - How prayer is essential to receiving answers
10:25 - Conner meets his wife
12:41 - Slowly leaving the church as the church is reprioritized
14:23 - Through prayer, the Lord speaks to Conner about needing to realign his priorities
17:00 - Church is habitual
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0:00 - Intro
1:20 - Many of our christian friends take Easter more seriously than we do. Kerry discusses his desire to improve.
2:48 - Sometimes separation brings us closer to loved ones, including God.
5:00 - The whole reason for the Plan of Salvation is to connect us to God and make us whole.
6:36 - Jesus also had to be separated from God to experience that craving for him.
9:00 - Jesus both taught about unity and also experienced aloneness.
9:45 - The concept of aloneness is important for Easter in helping us know that Jesus is always with us.
11:50 - Often our relationship with God is transactional. But it shouldn’t be so.
13:40 - The two most powerful statements from Jesus Christ.
15:30 - Look for what Christ did and how we can come closer to God through him.
Thank you so much, Kerry, for joining us on Saints Unscripted!
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KERRY'S FIRST EPISODE ON SU:
Book of Abraham: youtube.com/watch?v=njsJ2XoLXLI
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Video transcript: saintsunscripted.com/faith-and-beliefs/the-restoration-of-christs-church/why-george-albert-smith-was-an-absolute-boss
— “The Life and Ministry of George Albert Smith,” via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/mnkxbxcw
— “The Presidents of the Church: Biographical Essays,” by Merlo Pusey (George Albert Smith chapter begins on pg. 251): tinyurl.com/t4nah3jw
— “Chapter 8: George Albert Smith” in Presidents of the Church Student Manual (Institute): tinyurl.com/y7abzh4v
— “Mormon History: LDS (Mormon) Prophet George Albert Smith 1/2,” via YouTube (I think this is an old Church publication republished on this non-official channel): tinyurl.com/3hdcksjc
— “Mormon History: LDS (Mormon) Prophet George Albert Smith 2/2,” via YouTube:
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— “Third Convention” via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/y22xfn9k
— "’Cheat the Asylum of a Victim’: George Albert Smith's 1909—12 Breakdown,” by Mary Jane Woodger in Journal of Mormon History, Vol. 34, No. 4 (Fall 2008), pp. 113-152: tinyurl.com/4nfxkzbn
— “George Albert Smith: Prophets of the Restoration,” via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/2rc2va86
— “Prophet Portrait: George Albert Smith,” via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/4hkb7b53
— “George Albert Smith,” in Prophets and Apostles of the Last Dispensation, by Lawrence R. Flake (online at BYU RSC): tinyurl.com/4c9jd2fa
— “Greatness in Men: Superintendent George Albert Smith,” by Bryant S. Hinckley in Improvement Era, March 1932, No. 5, pgs. 269-272, 295-296: tinyurl.com/2bz9ayz8
— Here’s a picture of George & Lucy’s Salt Lake City home (coincidentally only a short walk from where my grandmother currently lives, which I suppose isn’t going to mean anything to anyone but me): tinyurl.com/5n87naap
Notes:
— As president of the Church, George emphasized preaching the gospel among Native Americans. As an interesting but probably unrelated side-note, his uncle (his father’s brother) was murdered as a teenager by a couple of Navajo men in 1862 (before George had been born). They justified the killing by calling it revenge for a number of Navajos that had been killed by white men at some point previously.
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From shifts in policies and interpretations of timeless teachings, we explore how the Church navigates the complexities of a changing world while staying true to its core beliefs. Through respectful dialogue and open-minded exploration, we aim to shed light on the nuanced journey of transformation within the LDS Churc.
Whether you're a devout follower, a curious observer, or somewhere in between, this video offers valuable insights and reflections on the ongoing evolution of the Church of Jesus Christ.
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0:00 - Introduction of Jennifer!
2:25 - While in nursing school, Jennifer was offered an interview at a law firm
2:58 - Jennifer experiences the spirit while waiting for her interview
3:52 - The attorneys with whom Jennifer works are transparent about their religion
4:58 - A new receptionist joins the law firm and invites Jennifer to church
5:48 - Jennifer is invited to meet the missionaries
6:35 - Jennifer gets baptized and receives a calling
7:20 - She talks about the past exposure she has had with the church
9:20 - Challenges came prior to her baptism and she gets bombarded with anti-LDS content
12:50 - Jennifer’s family begins to accept her decision and see positive changes
13:00 - A cancer scare causes her to question
15:30 - Jennifer bears her testimony about the consistent help of Jesus Christ
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Hey friends! I'm Rachel, a big fan of this Saints Unscripted community. At the end of 2023, Cam asked me to join for an episode (which might be my biggest fear). I'm a better speaker when I'm silent so I prefer to keep myself hidden behind the camera ;)
But I want you all to know how much it means to me to have a community like you. I have learned so much from your comments and perspectives. Thank you for your goodness, light, and testimonies. You've helped me through faith adventures and buoyed me up with your devotion to God.
I know the gospel of Jesus Christ is whole and good. I know that the tenants of His gospel are best found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have experienced the spirit in ways I probably don't deserve. And I know the Book of Mormon is the word of God.
I AM ROOTING FOR EACH OF YOU.
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Video transcript: saintsunscripted.com/faith-and-beliefs/the-commandments/why-do-latter-day-saints-save-sex-for-marriage
— “Your Body is Sacred,” via the “For the Strength of Youth: A Guide for Making Choices” booklet: tinyurl.com/msun3ydv
— “What Is the Law of Chastity?” via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/yk9wjtwx
— “We Believe in Being Chaste,” by Elder David A. Bednar (April 2013 general conference): tinyurl.com/4zu5npsw
— “Intimacy in Marriage,” via the “Eternal Marriage Student Manual”: tinyurl.com/3pfry9eu
— “Chastity: What Are the Limits?” video via the Church’s website: tinyurl.com/4ujutuhx
— “Why Was Corianton’s Sin So Serious?” via Book of Mormon Central: tinyurl.com/34pn2mf7
— “Repentance and Church Membership Councils,” via the Church’s handbook: tinyurl.com/2tyh8bx9
Notes:
— President Nelson recently taught that “The power to create life is the one privilege of godhood that Heavenly Father allows His mortal children to exercise. Thus, God set clear guidelines for the use of this living, divine power.” Source: tinyurl.com/3uwvcrx2
— “God gave us sex and prescribed uses and times and seasons and proprieties. We came on this earth to prove ourselves. It is in the disciplining and controlling of ourselves that we approach perfection.” Source: “The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball,” Edward Kimball (editor), pg. 170.
— I love this quote from Elder Dallin H. Oaks: “It is not enough for anyone just to go through the motions. The commandments, ordinances, and covenants of the gospel are not a list of deposits required to be made in some heavenly account. The gospel of Jesus Christ is a plan that shows us how to become what our Heavenly Father desires us to become.” Source: “The Challenge to Become,” Liahona, Jan. 2001, 40; Ensign, Nov. 2000, 32.
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Archie shares his deeply personal story of how his encounter with the teachings of the LDS Church helped him to grow and find happiness. Through unwavering faith and dedication, he found solace, guidance, and a sense of belonging within the LDS community.
His newfound faith has inspired his family members to explore the teachings of the LDS Church.
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0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Jordan shares about his background growing up in Utah
2:50 - Spiritual speed bumps began showing up when Jordan was 12 years old
4:35 - During his senior year of high school at age 17, Jordan had his first child
5:25 - Jordan felt lost and wasn’t sure where to go
6:20 - Home teaching changed Jordan’s life both spiritually and professionally
8:30 - Another home teacher helped Jordan during his divorce
10:30 - Divorce and attempting to sell his house caused Jordan to question his decisions
11:50 - Jordan moved in with his parents
13:00 - The search for his image and interests begins
14:05 - One of the most important events happen - Jordan meets his (now) wife!
16:50 - Jordan asks for his (now) wife’s parents for permission to marry her
17:50 - MARRIAGE! And church becomes a priority for them
19:50 - He realizes that he felt alone for a long time and felt the impression to pray. Ever since then, he has chosen to pray when he has difficulties
23:00 - You are never alone!!
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0:00 - Intro
1:30 - Discussing the overwhelm of being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
3:00 - Changing the overwhelm to a ‘highly redemptive’ faith
4:15 - Why do we feel overwhelm? And can I step away from the overwhelm without stepping away from my faith?
7:00 - God isn’t engaging us through expectation but rather through identity
9:20 - God has laid out this marital relationship as a model of covenant and renewal
11:18 - Kurt shares a story of watching BYU football and how a particular game helped him think about God’s knowledge and Jesus’ grace
13:45 - Does God expect us to keep His commandments?
15:50 - Love is a better motivator than expectation
18:15 - Choosing to love God helps us to live more happily and fully
19:05 - Shame works! But shame is not enduring
21:00 - We can only give what we have to give
23:50 - We often judge our righteousness based on a checklist of tasks and goals. But reframing righteousness will change everything
27:55 - Never give up. God has never been disappointed in you
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Video transcript: saintsunscripted.com/faith-and-beliefs/the-restoration-of-christs-church/doctor-p-hurlbut-deception
— “Doctor Philastus Hurlbut: Originator of Derogatory Statements About Joseph Smith, Jr.” by Dale W. Adams in “The John Whitmer Historical Association Journal,” Vol. 20 (2000), pp. 76-93 (18 pages): tinyurl.com/4yxjwvea
— “Why Did Joseph Smith File a Legal Complaint against Doctor Philastus Hurlbut?” via Book of Mormon Central: tinyurl.com/5dcyxa7w
— “Winning against Hurlbut's Assault in 1834,” by David Grua (chapter in “Sustaining the Law: Joseph Smith’s Legal Encounters”): tinyurl.com/5ctzh68w
— “Joseph Smith’s New York Reputation Reappraised,” by Richard Lloyd Anderson, BYU Studies 10, no. 3 (1970): tinyurl.com/yc8cca8c
— “Can the 1834 Affidavits Attacking the Smith Family Be Trusted?” by Daniel C. Peterson & Donald L. Enders in “Pressing Forward with the Book of Mormon: The FARMS Updates of the 1990s,” pgs. 285-288: tinyurl.com/ynry2pfe
— “Hurlbut, Doctor Philastus,” biography via the Joseph Smith Papers Project: tinyurl.com/654htuma
— “The Mythical ‘Manuscript Found’,” by Matthew Roper (Maxwell Institute): tinyurl.com/2psaw32m
— “New Light on Mormonism,” by Ellen Dickinson (chapter 5 of this book contains a fascinating 1880 interview with Hurlbut.): tinyurl.com/muwazb5m
— “The Joseph Smith, Sr., Family: Farmers of the Genesee” by Donald L. Enders in “Joseph Smith: The Prophet, the Man”: tinyurl.com/2fu726u3
— “Joseph Smith and the 1834 D. P. Hurlbut Case,” by David W. Grua (BYU Studies Quarterly 44:1, pg. 33): tinyurl.com/3ttyuzd3
— “Specific works/The Hurlbut affidavits,” via FAIR: tinyurl.com/4seufd2j
— “What is ‘Manuscript Found’?” by Rex C. Reeve Jr. (BYU RSC): tinyurl.com/d2su2f7n
— “Trial of Doctor Philastus Hurlbut • 21 June 1833” in Minute Book 1 (JosephSmithPapers.org): tinyurl.com/4dvv3nav
— “Trial of Doctor Philastus Hurlbut, continued • 21–23 June 1833” in Minute Book 1: tinyurl.com/29dxv6ek
Notes:
— Not included in the 15 Palmyra affidavits are 5 more from Harmony, PA, included in Howe’s book with Hurlbut's Palmyra affidavits. One (from Isaac Hale) seems to be in response to a letter from Hurlbut, but I’m not sure how the others are tied to him, if at all. I followed Richard Bushman’s assessment, and only included the 15. The other 5 are pretty much more of the same content (I'm simplifying, but that should give you an idea of what to expect from them).
— It wasn’t until 1884 that Spaulding's manuscript resurfaced in the papers of Eber D. Howe. It can be read online, and bears little resemblance to the Book of Mormon.
— Sources disagree whether Hurlbut discovered the Spaulding connection during his mission or after his excommunication. Dale W. Adams (2005) indicates that it was during his mission, but I’m not sure what led him to that conclusion beyond the fact that his mission companion, Daniel Copley, also abandoned his mission. There may be additional evidence, but I didn’t search comprehensively for it. In any case, Hurlbut was the first to find and promote the connection.
— Joseph Smith recalled that in an early conversation with Hurlbut (March 13, 1833), Hurlbut had stated, “if he ever became convinced that the book of Mormon was false, he would be the cause of my destruction, &c.” Source: Joseph Smith journal entry, 28 Jan. 1834.
— Both Sidney Rigdon and Benjamin Winchester assert that prior to joining the Church, Hurlbut had been cut off from Methodism for “unvirtuous conduct with a young lady” or “immoralities.” Sources: Winchester, pg. 5 / Sidney Rigdon, Letter to the Editors, Quincy Whig, Quincy IL, June 9, 1839.
— My personal favorite treasure-digging claim in the affidavits comes from Willard Chase, who reported that Joseph was initially prevented from obtaining the golden plates by a toad that turned into a man, who slapped him in the face.
— Even E. D. Howe reported that the Spaulding manuscript given to him by Hurlbut “had no resemblance to the 'Book of Mormon.’” Howe also believed there was a second manuscript that better matched the Book of Mormon. Source: tinyurl.com/mwhary55
— At least one source also indicates that Hurlbut’s affections had been rejected by a Latter-day Saint woman named Electra Sherman. “...because she despised him for his immorality and rejected his suit he swore revenge upon the whole community and boastfully declared he would destroy the church.” Source: Benjamin F. Johnson, "My Life's Review," pg. 20 (of Archive.org's edition)
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0:00 - Intro
1:56 - Does everyone have the spirit all figured out?
2:25 - Heavenly Father knows all of his children
3:30 - Lauren first experiences with the spirit
5:30 - God trusts us as we make decisions
6:42 - Expressing gratitude is fundamental
7:45 - God directs our paths in ways that will benefit us in the end
9:32 - Covenants and the Holy Ghost are connected
10:28 - Learning the spirit at the MTC
12:31 - How to seek the Holy Ghost
15:00 - The power of the atonement
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