PIDtoolboxTimeline: 0:00 Intro 0:14 P-D balance tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 4:03 P-I balance tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 6:24 PID gain tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 9:05 How to assess oscillation with high PID gains 11:17 Tuning Yaw and final remarks
Basement Tuning using the New Betaflight 4.3 Sliders!!!PIDtoolbox2021-12-10 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro 0:14 P-D balance tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 4:03 P-I balance tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 6:24 PID gain tuning using BF 4.3 sliders 9:05 How to assess oscillation with high PID gains 11:17 Tuning Yaw and final remarks
Filmed by Richard RevelleKISS ULTRA objective tuning with PIDtoolbox 😘PIDtoolbox2025-07-06 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 0:54 Setting up an external logging device 2:29 Brief overview of Kiss Ultra Filters 4:18 Using PTB PID sliders to tune Kiss Ultra 7:23 How to do 'wobble' tests 9:16 Step 1 - Optimizing the P-D ratio 19:34 Step 2 - Optimizing the Master Multiplier 24:33 Step 3 - Iterm and Yaw 26:33 Final PIDs and test flight
PIDtoolbox Blackbox Analysis software: patreon.com/c/ThePIDtoolboxGuyPIDtoolbox Pro QUICK GUIDE | v0.8PIDtoolbox2025-06-04 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro and Running the application 0:23 The Logviewer 4:39 The Spectral Analyzer 8:35 The Frequency X Throttle Heatmap 11:12 The Frequency X Time Heatmap 13:52 The Step Response Tool 17:37 The PID Slider Tool 19:04 The Filter Simulator 20:28 Setup Information Page
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caAn Auto Wobble Controller from your open/edgeTX radioPIDtoolbox2024-12-21 | For context, this “auto wobble” script allows for carefully controlled and replicable tests: I.e, each test is virtually identical, making it very useful for testing purposes, for example during PID tuning using the PTB step response, measuring accurate filter delay or response delay of the drone.
Please be safe, and double check the script is working as expected in Betaflight before using! Remember this is intended to be used in Angle mode.
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PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caAM32 and the future of ESC firmwarePIDtoolbox2024-06-11 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 1:25 Should we upgrade our existing Blheli32 ESCs to AM32? 5:11 Will the Blheli32 configurator dissappear? 5:44 Which AM32 configurator should we use? 8:21 Can we revert from AM32 to Blheli32? 10:16 Are AM32 parameters comparable to Blheli32? 14:03 The pace of AM32 development 18:47 Is AM32 flight performance comperable to Blheli32? 19:55 Using AM32 on large cinelifter drones 23:16 Visit the AM32 Patreon if you'd like to help support development 24:17 Ryan's advanced ESC testing facility and wind tunnel 25:55 More discussion on comparisons between AM32 and Blheli32 32:03 Will the majority of ESC manufacturers move to AM32? 33:45 Will there be a common bootloader? 36:59 Can you flash AM32 on any ESC? 39:50 Closing remarks and future discussions with the ESC guys
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caPIDtoolbox v0.71 release!PIDtoolbox2024-06-09 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 0:12 New filter sim sliders 1:12 New RPM estimator for visualizing motor harmonics when RPM data is not available 3:46 New plot expand for each freq x time subplot 4:26 New Trim function using i/o keys 5:37 New reset process, so you no longer ever need to close PTB and restart runtime 6:27 Other bug fixes with save settings and PTBlog 6:46 Fixed color theme issue for Mac light vs dark theme 7:37 Concluding remarks and installation pointers
You can download the latest Win/Mac/Linux versions of PTB and PTB PRO from the PTB Patreon site patreon.com/ThePIDtoolboxGuy
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Timeline: 0:00 intro 1:45 PTB is NOT subscription-based! 2:31 Overview of features for non PRO version 5:49 What is different about PTB PRO?Betaflight 4.5 - RPM filter weights 🔥🔥🔥PIDtoolbox2024-04-20 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 1:24 RPM filter weights 2:02 Why should we care? 3:16 Illustration with data how RPM weights work 7:38 Another practical application
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.ca🔧Betaflight 4.5 Tuning Workflow using PIDtoolbox🔧PIDtoolbox2024-04-13 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 1:00 Why a simple steady hover is a great starting point 3:40 The dominant reason behind poor flight performance 5:23 Optimize PIDs while continually fine tuning FILTERs 7:14 Two basic filter types - LOWPASS vs NOTCH Filters 9:23 PIDF tuning steps
!!! Auto wobble controller setup can be found on my Patreon !!!
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caBasement tuning just got a lot easier! - USE ANGLE MODE!PIDtoolbox2022-02-14 | Timeline: 0:00 intro 0:31 The Airblade Transformer light weight long range 4 inch copter 1:15 Using auto-level (angle) mode in basement tuning step tests 3:38 Tuning results: PD balance tests 4:28 Tuning results: Master Multiplier tests 4:47 How to spot PID gain related oscillation 7:20 Optimizing the Roll to Pitch ratio 8:08 Tuning Feedforward 12:53 Final remarks about Iterm and final PIDFs
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caLive Stream - Viewer Logfile Analysis, diagnosis and tunePIDtoolbox2022-01-17 | This Live Stream is focused on analysis of viewer logfiles. I didn't get to all of them but will try to get to the rest in a later video or live stream.
Timeline: 0:00 intro 1:04 Flywoo Hexsplorer logfile - Brandon Beans 20:35 X8 Cinelifter Whoop 4inch - Casper Splawinski 37:22 5inch 4s freestyle - Ced Ric 52:32 Street League 7inch - LeadFingers Steven Knabe 1:01:48 Final questions
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caLive Stream - The New Betaflight 4.3 FiltersPIDtoolbox2022-01-10 | Long discussion about BF 4.3 New Dynamic notches, RPM crossfade, and logfile analyses
Guests: Jan Post (KarateBrot in Github) is a Betaflight developer behind some of the new BF dynamic notch system and RPM crossfade. github.com/KarateBrot
Stephen Wright is the creator of Supafly Freestyle FPV frames out of the UK, and an expert tuner and pilot who knows the secrets behind filtering for propwash control supaflyfpv.com
Timeline: 0:00 Intro 2:45 Introducing Stephen and Jan 6:10 Jan talks about the new BF 4.3 dynamic notch system 19:46 Jan talks about the new RPM crossfade and why it's so important 39:02 RPM crossfade dramatically reduces phase delay 49:50 Brian talks about the link between filter delay in msec to phase shift in deg 57:23 Stephen talks about gyro vs dterm filter delay on propwash 1:05:25 Looked at Limon's and other's race logfiles 1:09:25 Analyzed logfile from Soobin Kim 1:20:20 Analyzed logfile from Casper Splawinski 1:27:46 Analyzed logfile from Eoin O'Callaghan 1:35:12 Analyzed logfile from Robert Gluckman 1:38:35 Analyzed logfile from Mads Sommer 1:39:45 Analyzed logfile from Daniel Ke 1:43:14 Final questions and the BF 4.3 presetsQuick tip: Do P-I balance last!PIDtoolbox2021-12-12 | --
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caShendrones Thicc | no ND | no Hypersmooth | 60fpsPIDtoolbox2021-09-20 | I’ll be doing an upcoming video on tuning cinelifters using PIDtoolbox. For now I just wanted to share some recent footage. I always test vibration issues without an ND filter (to minimize motion blur) and without stabilization, and at 60fps which shows every little bobble. In other words, it’s only gonna be smoother with and ND at the 180deg shutter/exposure rule. After a series of prop tests and different FC mounting options I think I’ve solved the main issues.
Build: Shendrones Thicc 2808 1350kv BH/QSL HW 60a HQ 7x45x3 MatekF722 HDPTB QuickTips: 👉 How to get clean reliable step response curves! 👈 👊 💥PIDtoolbox2021-09-06 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro 0:20 TIP - Removing FF during step response testing 3:24 Issue of small movements and gyro quality on the step response 4:33 TIP - Increase the signal to noise by re-visiting filters and making bigger moves 5:32 TIP - Create a LOS rate profile optimized for "Basement tuning" 6:34 Issue with doing roll and pitch moves independently 8:04 Generalizability of step response across different size moves 9:04 concluding remarks
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caPIDtoolbox Q&A #05 | Live Basement TunePIDtoolbox2021-06-22 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro 1:35 Pre-flight settings 2:07 'Live' in-house basement tuning tests 3:29 Tips for making and labeling blackbox logfiles 5:10 Load and analyze the data 6:33 Analyzing the step response curves 11:10 What to do if you get oscillation after tuning 17:39 Final remarks
The Dr. Drones Prätoria 5" Racing box is available at: https://www.kwadstore.at/store/kwads/... see also for build: rotorbuilds.com/build/25022Dr. Drones Prätoria 5 buildPIDtoolbox2021-06-18 | Dr. Drones Prätoria 5" Racing box is a really interesting frame with an ultra low noise profile. I am no expert on frame design so I could not begin to tell you why this is the case, but it's certainly one if the lowest noise frames that have come across my desk. It comes in two flavours, SD and HD, the latter allowing fit for the DJI AU or caddx vista. While its style is in the tradition of a racing frame, I know some use it for cinematic purposes with enough HD cam angle to keep props out of view. Hope the build and analyses are useful. Enjoy!
This frame is available at: https://www.kwadstore.at/store/kwads/dr-drones/ see also for build: rotorbuilds.com/build/25022 https://urp.mak-it.at/quads_copters_drones/
Other components in the build: Furious FPV Racepit mini F7 T-motor F55A PROⅡ 6S 4IN1 32bit ESC Avenger V3 2207.5 1900kv motors Tattu Rline 1050mah 6s HQ 5043 prop DJI air unit
PIDF R 60/60/45/45 P 65/65/48/48 Y 70/90/0/70 FF transition 0.5 Dmin off TPA = PD, 0.4, breakpoint 1250 iterm relax cutoff = 10 NOTE: Optimal PIDs will depend on many factors/components used etc, including the fact that I'm using a lot of TPA ( of both P and D) here. If you decide to use these PIDs, test with caution.
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caPIDtoolbox Q&A #03 | Tuning a 10 li-ion long-range quadcopterPIDtoolbox2021-05-20 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro 0:41 Gianmaria Veronese, long range FPV in the Italian alps 1:35 Details about the 10inch long range copter 4:53 Tuning the rig in a confined space (ie "basement tune") 5:30 Step response results in PTB 12:25 Discussion about the noise profile in PTB 14:53 Final remarks
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caPIDtoolbox Q&A #02 | Basement Tuning using the PTB step response toolPIDtoolbox2021-04-30 | Timeline: 0:00 Intro 0:36 Prerequisites for "basement tuning" using PTB 1:14 The 20 sec indoor PID tuning test 2:45 Why it works 5:50 Useful Betaflight settings for PTB step response tests 8:40 What is overshoot and how is it different from "bounce back" 9:29 Using the PTB step response tool 11:50 Systematic effect of P on the step response 14:38 Systematic effect of D on the step response 16:05 STEP 1: PD gain tests on the step response 18:10 STEP 2: PD balance tests on the step response 21:53 What if you get oscillation after tuning? 26:53 Discussion about default settings 27:58 Closing remarks
Michael Orter is a member of the Vienna FPV group facebook.com/ViennaFPV, and United remote pilots (URP) https://urp.mak-it.at/
PID tuning consultation: ptblabs.caPIDtoolbox Q&A #01 | Intro to the spectral toolPIDtoolbox2021-04-02 | Michael Orter and Christian Buchinger are members of the Vienna FPV group facebook.com/ViennaFPV. If you have any questions about PIDtoolbox, please direct them to either the Github site, or the Blackbox log review Facebook site.
Timeline: 0:00 Intro 2:30 Motive behind PTB development 5:45 Logfile considerations, test flights 8:35 Setting the Debug Mode e.g., 'gyro_scaled' 11:14 Effects of weak vs strong filtering 12:20 Spectral analysis of throttle sweep 14:16 Assessing the quality of sub-100 Hz vibration 16:21 Tolerable noise and the tradeoff between noise and phase delay 21:18 Understanding phase delay and what it means for flight performance 24:02 Further considerations about noise and filtering 28:30 PTB tool teaser - time-base spectral analyses~15 min flight w 4s 3000mah 200gm li-ion brick 🤔PIDtoolbox2020-10-31 | Managed to get ~15min flight out of a 4s 3000mah li-ion pack in pretty cold weather (6 deg celcius). Really didn’t expect much with so much added weight, and it was certainly floaty at times. Probably could have pushed it more, and pack was only 90% charged to start (16.2v).
I speed up the video ~half way through and you can follow the time line in the lower right.
Drone: Airblade Transformer 4inch frame Xing 1404 3800kv motors Spedix 25a 4in1 ESC 20x20 Aikon F7 20x20 FC Caddx vista HD FPV TBS m8 GPS (crappy, need to replace) Crossfire nano rx Naked Hero6 Super loud beeper
Weight: 199grams without battery 3000mah li-ion pack - ~200gm auw ~400gram! Not exactly ultra light!
Video: 4K 30fps 4:3 Reelsteady go +My favourite lutAirblade Transformer 4inch with Naked GoProPIDtoolbox2020-10-25 | Remarkable tiny little thing!
Airblade Transformer 4inch frame Xing 1404 3800kv motors Spedix 25a 4in1 ESC 20x20 Aikon F7 20x20 FC Caddx vista HD FPV TBS m8 GPS (crappy, need to replace) Crossfire nano rx Naked Hero6 Super loud beeper
Weight: 199grams without lipo 290grams with 850mah 4sNaked GoPro Hero6 mod - timelapsePIDtoolbox2020-10-03 | thanks to BetaFPV for this amazing little kit!
Music: Double Lyfe - Fear youtu.be/-gHWyBUXUtAStick Cam at the Golf CoursePIDtoolbox2020-09-20 | some more cheeseball stick cam action with some Pink Floyd :P
Filters: Gyro RPM 1harmonic Q1000, min 150Hz, dyn notch Q480, 125-350Hz (no gyro LPF) Dterm biquad 120hz
Rates "actual rates" system RP center 80, max 700, expo .8 Y center 80, max 450, expo .8
Music: Pink Floyd - Run like hell youtu.be/j2s8yGMEbSsAnother cruise around the quarry // RSGPIDtoolbox2020-09-18 | Music: Hard Sun - Eddie Vedder youtu.be/_EZUfnMv3LgStick Cam at the quarry 🚧PIDtoolbox2020-09-15 | First attempt at stick cam. Probably will try a radio cam mount next time.
Copter struggling a bit in the wind. BangGod build.Tree surfing | no RSG | no hypersmooth | BF actual rates 🤘PIDtoolbox2020-09-13 | Supafly Flipmode 5inch supaflyfpv.com/flipmode Tmotor F60 pro 2s Aikon 32 35a escs HQ5043 (black) props
Filters: Gyro RPM 1harmonic Q1000, min 150Hz, dyn notch Q480, 125-350Hz (no gyro LPF) Dterm biquad 120hz
Rates: ("cinematic" setting) "actual rates" system RP center 100, max 700, expo .8 Y center 100, max 450, expo .8
Music: Harrison Storm - Feeling You youtu.be/OYI6oJ1Y7hUQuarryPIDtoolbox2020-09-07 | ...cruising with a trainPIDtoolbox2020-09-01 | weird to see a soccer field in the middle of nowhere.
Music: Sufjan Stevens - Video Game youtu.be/3fCdZzsP4U0smoke and dronesPIDtoolbox2020-08-26 | Music: The Growlers - I'll Be Around youtu.be/p50R8rkzkhkMed-long range | Crossfire | DJI fpv | 1.7kmPIDtoolbox2020-08-09 | 99% LQ and perfect video the entire wayLast LOP flight :(PIDtoolbox2020-08-08 | got the boots from Lake Ontario Park, but did get a couple good flights in. Man I'll miss that space. Too bad :(