Keiki5364
[SM64DS] 50star speedrun 42:23.79(RF)(Former WR)
updated
TAS timing(IL timing)
9.04(8.94) Dive reset route
9.28(8.84) Dive reset route IL end
9.11(9.04) Ledge grab route
9.44(9.01) Ledge grab route IL end
9.31(9.21) Yrun Ledge grab route
9.48(9.01) Yrun Ledge grab route IL end
9.61(9.31) Yrun TJ route
TAS timing(IL timing)
For TAS timing only
9.04 Dive reset route
9.11 Ledge grab route
9.31 Yrun Ledge grab route
9.61 Yrun TJ route
For IL timing only
8.84 Dive reset route
9.01 Ledge grab route
9.01 Yrun Ledge grab route
9.31 Yrun TJ route
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0:00 Dive reset route 9.04(8.94)
0:12 Dive reset route IL end 9.28(8.84)
0:26 Ledge grab route 9.11(9.04)
0:40 Ledge grab route IL end 9.44(9.01)
0:54 Yrun Ledge grab route 9.31(9.21)
1:08 Yrun Ledge grab route IL end 9.48(9.01)
1:22 Yrun TJ route 9.61(9.31)
TAS timing(IL timing)
23.28(23.22) Fastest route
23.52(23.15) Fastest route IL end
23.69(23.58) SJ kick for stair
23.85(23.38) SJ kick for stair IL end
23.82(23.79) DJ kick for stair
23.95(23.52) DJ kick for stair IL end
TAS timing(IL timing)
And LJ→kick→LJ strat test for the stair for fastest route
To match to side LJ strat,
This has 0speed kick landing and 1F(0.03s) extra stop after kick landing.
It gives 0.1s slower time at SJ land even with forward LJs.
For DJ kick for stair IL end, it does fastest(1st frame) dive recovery correctly.
For TAS timing only
23.28 Fastest route
23.69 SJ kick for stair
23.82 DJ kick for stair
For IL timing only
23.22 Fastest route
23.38 SJ kick for stair
23.52 DJ kick for stair
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0:00 Fastest route 23.28(23.22)
0:27 Fastest route IL end 23.52(23.15)
0:55 SJ kick for stair 23.69(23.58)
1:23 SJ kick for stair IL end 23.85(23.38)
1:51 DJ kick for stair 23.82(23.79)
2:20 DJ kick for stair IL end 23.95(23.52)
2:49 LJ→kick→LJ strat test for fastest route(0.1s~ slower at SJ landing)
The time is calculated with [Blackout ended] - [First frame we can see the stage].
0.84 saved total from current time of this stage.
(On 5:42.55 Current Tunneling Any% TAS)
youtu.be/usqxR6ZmTUk?feature=shared&t=170
Around 0.10 saved until pole.
Around 0.64 saved at pole climbing section.
0.10 saved after landing from pole jump.
14.39(14.16) For TAS timing
14.53(14.12) For IL timing
TAS timing(IL timing)
I don't know if there are categories that this star with no star cancel as Yoshi will be used on TAS.
0.43 saved from latest public no star cancel this star.
(On 2017/03/19 Any[3star] 8:12.93 TAS)
youtu.be/ZOkbDUo-biA?feature=shared&t=203
At landing on the edge of the entrance of the pyramid.
Around 0.33 faster from 2017/03/19 Any[3star] 8:12.93 TAS's one.
Around 0.15 faster from 2023/05/20 3star 7:35.99 TAS's one.
2023/05/20 3star 7:35.99 TAS's one↓
youtu.be/RSzay0NHVBg?feature=shared&t=210
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0:00 For TAS timing 14.39(14.16)
0:18 For IL timing 14.53(14.12)
14.46(14.49) Right LJ route
14.62(14.46) Right LJ route IL ending
14.66(14.69) Yrun Right LJ route
14.83(14.66) Yrun Right LJ route IL ending
14.66(14.69) Left LJ route
14.69(14.66) Left LJ route IL ending
14.79(14.83) Yrun Left LJ route
15.19(15.23) Yrun Sideflip route
15.36(15.36) Sideflip route
15.39(15.26) Sideflip route IL ending
15.60(15.60) Sideflip Flower Sideflip route
15.63(15.49) Sideflip Flower Sideflip route IL ending
TAS timing(IL timing)
For TAS timing only
14.46 Right LJ route
14.66 Yrun Right LJ route
14.66 Left LJ route
14.79 Yrun Left LJ route
15.19 Yrun Sideflip route
15.36 Sideflip route
15.60 Sideflip Flower Sideflip route
For IL timing only
14.46 Right LJ route
14.66 Yrun Right LJ route
14.66 Left LJ route
14.83 Yrun Left LJ route
15.23 Yrun Sideflip route
15.26 Sideflip route
15.49 Sideflip Flower Sideflip route
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0:00 Right LJ route 14.46(14.49)
0:18 Right LJ route IL ending 14.62(14.46)
0:37 Yrun Right LJ route 14.66(14.69)
0:56 Yrun Right LJ route IL ending 14.83(14.66)
1:16 Left LJ route 14.66(14.69)
1:35 Left LJ route IL ending 14.69(14.66)
1:55 Yrun Left LJ route 14.79(14.83)
2:14 Yrun Sideflip route 15.19(15.23)
2:34 Sideflip route 15.36(15.36)
2:54 Sideflip route IL ending 15.39(15.26)
3:14 Sideflip Flower Sideflip route 15.60(15.60)
3:34 Sideflip Flower Sideflip route IL ending 15.63(15.49)
15.49(15.36) Shell route
16.16(16.03) Single slope kick route
16.23(16.10) Two slope route
16.93(16.80) Ledge grab route
TAS timing(IL timing)
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0:00 Shell route 15.49(15.36)
0:19 Single slope kick route 16.16(16.03)
0:40 Two slope route 16.23(16.10)
1:00 Ledge grab route 16.93(16.80)
8.71(8.51) Slidekick fall route
8.84(8.44) Slidekick fall route IL ending
8.88(8.71) Sideflip route
9.01(8.61) Sideflip route IL ending
TAS timing(IL timing)
Route comparison of Slidekick and Sideflip at the end.
For TAS timing only
8.71 Slidekick fall route
8.88 Sideflip route
For IL timing only
8.44 Slidekick fall route
8.61 Sideflip route
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0:00 Slidekick fall route 8.71(8.51)
0:12 Slidekick fall route IL ending 8.84(8.44)
0:26 Sideflip route 8.88(8.71)
0:39 Sideflip route IL ending 9.01(8.61)
0:53 Slidekick Sideflip route comparison
10.68(10.58) No Yrun Sideflip air reset route
10.71(10.68) No Yrun TJ air reset route
10.81(10.71) Yrun Sideflip air reset route
11.01(11.01) Yrun TJ air reset route
11.25(11.14) No Yrun Flower route
11.45(11.01) No Yrun Flower route for IL timing
11.28(11.05) Yrun Flower route
11.42(10.98) Yrun Flower route for IL timing
TAS timing(IL timing)
Jump over the fence with [TJ→Dive] strat like Mario is impossible for Luigi.
To do it, Black box should be back for 4F(0.13s) Yrunning worth.
For TAS timing only
10.68 No Yrun Sideflip air reset route
10.71 No Yrun TJ air reset route
10.81 Yrun Sideflip air reset route
11.01 Yrun TJ air reset route
11.25 No Yrun Flower route
11.28 Yrun Flower route
For IL timing only
10.58 No Yrun Sideflip air reset route
10.68 No Yrun TJ air reset route
10.71 Yrun Sideflip air reset route
10.98 Yrun Flower route
11.01 Yrun TJ air reset route
11.01 No Yrun Flower route
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00:00 No Yrun Sideflip air reset route 10.68(10.58)
00:14 No Yrun TJ air reset route 10.71(10.68)
00:29 Yrun Sideflip air reset route 10.81(10.71)
00:45 Yrun TJ air reset route 11.01(11.01)
01:00 No Yrun Flower route 11.25(11.14)
01:16 No Yrun Flower route IL ending 11.45(11.01)
01:32 Yrun Flower route 11.28(11.05)
01:48 Yrun Flower route IL ending 11.42(10.98)
8.34(8.24 for IL timing) LJ landing turn strat for TAS timing
8.41(8.17) Legde grab strat for IL timing
8.41(8.24) 2LJ strat
8.44(8.27) 1LJ strat
8.51(8.34) Straight 1LJ strat
2LJ strat must be decent for human to get fastest time now.
Why Straight 1IL strat slower is. Straight 1LJ needs to do LJ after going through downslope(Downslope here won't give extra speed).
Straight 1LJ strat actually needs to do LJ around 4/30F(0.134s) slower than normal 1LJ strat because it needs to start LJ from lower position.
It makes average speed lower, and it actually made time losses.
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00:00 LJ Landing turn strat 8.34(8.24)
00:12 Legde grab strat 8.41(8.17)
00:25 2LJ strat 8.41(8.24)
00:38 1LJ strat 8.44(8.27)
00:51 Straight 1LJ strat 8.51(8.34)
7.74 on TAS timing and IL timing
Improved by maybe 0.17s(5F) from movement from 2017-04-11 8:12.93 TAS if it didn't do star cancel.
→youtu.be/u7K7Iveh8XE?feature=shared&t=236
Saved around 4.5F at the landing on quicksand of the first sliding.
Saved around 0.5F for the rest.
Maybe this movement won't be used even with star cancel for fullgame runs for a while.
Must be useless for normal categories except 1star at least.
8.54(8.41) SJ route for IL timing
8.68(8.61) DJ route
8.71(8.54) DJ route for IL timing
9.18(9.18) Late backflip route
9.34(9.08) Late backflip route for IL timing
9.24(9.21) Long backflip route
9.51(9.14) Long backflip route for IL timing
For TAS timing only
8.47 SJ route
8.68 DJ route
9.18 Late backflip route
9.24 Long backflip route
For IL timing only
8.41 SJ route
8.54 DJ route
9.08 Late backflip route
9.14 Long backflip route
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00:00 SJ route 8.47(8.47)
00:12 SJ route IL ending 8.54(8.41)
00:25 DJ route 8.68(8.61)
00:39 DJ route IL ending 8.71(8.54)
00:52 Late backflip route 9.18(9.18)
01:06 Late backflip route IL ending 9.34(9.08)
01:20 Long backflip route 9.24(9.21)
01:33 Long backflip route IL ending 9.51(9.14)
10.08(9.91 IL timing) for TAS timing
10.11(9.85) for IL timing
This is not aiming very good RNG for flyguy.
This is not optimized much until stomping flyguy.
Kinda strat test for fullgame runs.
Fireshooter strat is around 4/30F(0.13s) slower with movement.
Because we need to do SJ to cancel sliding state.
Ledge grabbing leftside strat might make fireshooter strat better.
No flyguy strats → youtube.com/watch?v=-idmuvhbixU
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00:00 For TAS timing 10.08(9.91)
00:14 For IL timing 10.11(9.85)
11.02(10.75) Wallkick route
11.62(11.42) Normal side wallkick route
11.62(11.52) Normal forward route
11.78(11.68) Normal forward TJ route
11.92(11.72) Normal back TJ route
(IL time was 11.65 if I used LJ at the end.)
And no Yrun normal route test.
It reaches the center of the switch 0.1s later than Yrun(no TJ) routes.
So, it was proved that no Yrun route is basically slower than Yrun route even for normal routes.
Also, the route that uses flyguy is faster than this no flyguy route.
So, 1st half movement of each route must not be used in fullgame runs.
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00:00 Fireshooter route 10.68(10.38)
00:14 Wallkick route 11.02(10.75)
00:30 Normal side wallkick route 11.62(11.42)
00:46 Normal forward route 11.62(11.52)
01:02 Normal forward TJ route 11.78(11.68)
01:19 Normal back TJ route 11.92(11.72[11.65 with Long jump ending])
01:35 No Yrun normal route test[0.1s slower at the center of the switch]
10.71 on TAS timing.
10.31 on IL timing.
Done on 2023/01/30
Done 2023/01/30
Played on US 1.0 version.
Long jumps are kept after you stomped enemy on US 1.0.
Done on 2022/06/20
with Yoshi(Beginning Mario cap) Speedrun strat
In 100~ tries. I haven't got bad camera around 1,2nd Red section.
So I'd say If we didn't push walls around 1,2nd Red section,
We can always get decent camera around 1,2nd Red section.
Turning left a bit before right LJ for 1,2nd Red is to gain turning power.
with Yoshi(Beginning Mario cap) Speedrun strat
Using 1st box saves around 1~2s including coin count with decent movements.
Get flower at very left side.
And hold [←↑] or [←] after getting flower to get wall bounce boost.
And get forward moving angle before getting flower.
Rerecord count:1655
12F faster time gives 374. 33F slower time gives 372.
Done on 2022/06/01
with Yoshi(Wario cap) Speedrun strat
Normal 50.60(57.17)
Recovery[missing some coins] 50.85(57.40)
Getting 2coins from big bully platform cost around ~0.1s.
Getting 2coins from adding 1 red coin on puzzle part cost around 0.45s.
7 red coin strat is 1s~ slower than using 3 bullies platform ring coin.