Consciousness MattersIs Consciousness fundamental or is it emergent? Watch myself and David Long as we debate the matter.
If you want to get right to it then you'll need this timestamp: 0:45:45 - CONSCIOUSNESS - EMERGENT VS FUNDAMENTAL
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:02:36 - Context Is King - Let's Meet David Long 0:03:01 - Planting A Flag - False Equivalency? & Is Emergentism A Relative Fact? 0:03:43 - Why We're Having This Talk 0:04:05 - False Equivalency? Can We Negotiate For A Valid Dichotomy? 0:06:20 - Isn't It Light Bulb Off Or Light Bulb On? Is This Not A Valid dichotomy? 0:07:12 - I Agree With David Long - Idealism / Materialism, An Invalid dichotomy! 0:08:12 - A Lot Of Great Stuff On David Long's Channel - Integral Theory 0:09:53 - Integral Theory Started Off As Idealist - Ken Wilber 0:11:32 - Is Idealism The Corrupting Bias To Integral Theory's Intellectual Integrity? 0:13:05 - How Do You Balance Pluralism With Integration? 0:17:35 - Who's David Long? 0:24:38 - I Share My Path So Far With David 0:26:36 - David Share's A Bit More Of His Path So Far 0:27:34 - Religion Has Some Validity 0:35:45 - Joseph Campbell Makes Me Think Of Jordan Peterson 0:45:16 - I Welcome The Challenge To My Point Of View
0:45:45 - CONSCIOUSNESS - EMERGENT VS FUNDAMENTAL
0:50:33 - Is Consciousness Affecting Evolution? 0:52:28 - Is Emergentism A Fact Like Evolution? 0:53:51 - Freewill / Determinism - Semantic Problems? 0:58:49 - Bringing In Integral Theory 1:03:17 - Evolution Vs Creationism Issue 1:09:04 - What Persuades Me Consciousness Is Fundamental? 1:11:15 - David Responds With Emergence Argument 1:12:09 - Parsimony Arguments For Idealism 1:17:21 - Can Consciousness Be Weakly Emergent? 1:23:30 - Understanding Illusionism 1:24:48 - Does A Consciousness Dimmer Switch Work? 1:30:56 - Does The Hard Problem Imply The Meta Problem? 1:31:56 - Sam Harris & Free Will 1:42:45 - Do People Misuse Emergence As An Argument? 1:45:20 - David Suggests Some Things Aren't Reducible 1:53:36 - Where Am I Making A Mistake In My Thinking? 1:58:36 - David: I Don't See How Consciousness Would Go All The Way Down 1:59:05 - When Do Things Seem Conscious? 2:01:54 - Parsimony As An Argument For Idealism 2:07:28 - Is Idealism Multiplayer Solipsism? 2:10:11 - Is 'Materialism Is Baloney' Advancing A False Dichotomy? 2:12:27 - Is This An Argument For Consciousness Emerging? 2:16:47 - My Affinity For Reductionism 2:18:48 - Trying To Reach Conclusions On Our Disagreement
Consciousness, Emergent Vs Fundamental (with David Long)Consciousness Matters2021-04-16 | Is Consciousness fundamental or is it emergent? Watch myself and David Long as we debate the matter.
If you want to get right to it then you'll need this timestamp: 0:45:45 - CONSCIOUSNESS - EMERGENT VS FUNDAMENTAL
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:02:36 - Context Is King - Let's Meet David Long 0:03:01 - Planting A Flag - False Equivalency? & Is Emergentism A Relative Fact? 0:03:43 - Why We're Having This Talk 0:04:05 - False Equivalency? Can We Negotiate For A Valid Dichotomy? 0:06:20 - Isn't It Light Bulb Off Or Light Bulb On? Is This Not A Valid dichotomy? 0:07:12 - I Agree With David Long - Idealism / Materialism, An Invalid dichotomy! 0:08:12 - A Lot Of Great Stuff On David Long's Channel - Integral Theory 0:09:53 - Integral Theory Started Off As Idealist - Ken Wilber 0:11:32 - Is Idealism The Corrupting Bias To Integral Theory's Intellectual Integrity? 0:13:05 - How Do You Balance Pluralism With Integration? 0:17:35 - Who's David Long? 0:24:38 - I Share My Path So Far With David 0:26:36 - David Share's A Bit More Of His Path So Far 0:27:34 - Religion Has Some Validity 0:35:45 - Joseph Campbell Makes Me Think Of Jordan Peterson 0:45:16 - I Welcome The Challenge To My Point Of View
0:45:45 - CONSCIOUSNESS - EMERGENT VS FUNDAMENTAL
0:50:33 - Is Consciousness Affecting Evolution? 0:52:28 - Is Emergentism A Fact Like Evolution? 0:53:51 - Freewill / Determinism - Semantic Problems? 0:58:49 - Bringing In Integral Theory 1:03:17 - Evolution Vs Creationism Issue 1:09:04 - What Persuades Me Consciousness Is Fundamental? 1:11:15 - David Responds With Emergence Argument 1:12:09 - Parsimony Arguments For Idealism 1:17:21 - Can Consciousness Be Weakly Emergent? 1:23:30 - Understanding Illusionism 1:24:48 - Does A Consciousness Dimmer Switch Work? 1:30:56 - Does The Hard Problem Imply The Meta Problem? 1:31:56 - Sam Harris & Free Will 1:42:45 - Do People Misuse Emergence As An Argument? 1:45:20 - David Suggests Some Things Aren't Reducible 1:53:36 - Where Am I Making A Mistake In My Thinking? 1:58:36 - David: I Don't See How Consciousness Would Go All The Way Down 1:59:05 - When Do Things Seem Conscious? 2:01:54 - Parsimony As An Argument For Idealism 2:07:28 - Is Idealism Multiplayer Solipsism? 2:10:11 - Is 'Materialism Is Baloney' Advancing A False Dichotomy? 2:12:27 - Is This An Argument For Consciousness Emerging? 2:16:47 - My Affinity For Reductionism 2:18:48 - Trying To Reach Conclusions On Our DisagreementFrom Cause, Not Qualia? With Philip GoffConsciousness Matters2023-11-13 | I've thought deeply about consciousness and so has Dr Philip Goff who I think has done more to reach out to the public about panpsychism than anyone else I can think of.
I've listened to Philip and Sean Carroll disagree and I feel that there may be a solution to the problem. A resolution to the disagreement.
Qualia are great. I believe there is a redness to red that isn't entirely reducible to numbers. Though I think even if we were willing to say that the illusionists were right about qualia, there's actually another very powerful way to get to panpsychism.
So I was delighted to be able to sit down with Philip and exchange ideas.
Time Indexes:
0:00 - Cheeky Ident 0:14 - Philip's Conversations 1:05 - Coming Up... Trying to be a smart arse 2:34 - An Introduction to Philip's Work in Panpsychism 5:55 - Philip's Collaboration with Keith Frankish 7:53 - What Is Illusionism? 15:27 - Turning the tables on Illusionism 17:24 - The argument from consciousness From Cause, Not Qualia 19:04 - I experience, therefore I am. I tell you about that, therefore I do. 22:19 - The Laws of Nature 25:46 - Defending Panagentialism 26:14 - Not just freewill but will itself 32:19 - Helen Steward, Defender of Freewill (Mind Chat Episode) 33:52 - Jonathan Lowe, objective value, platonic numbers. 37:08 - David Hume & Causation 41:36 - Aren't Qualia Arguments Also Causal Arguments? 46:27 - Conscious Causality By Evolution 51:38 - Scientists Who Don't Believe In Weak Physicalism 54:45 - A Strange Ethical Situation 55:51 - Philip's Take On Moral Responsibility 59:00 - How Many Subjects of Experience Are There? 1:08:25 - Can Idealism or Cosmopsychism Ground Morality? 1:09:48 - What Conversations Have Made Philip Really Think? 1:12:24 - Philip Asks Me What's Made Me Think 1:14:42 - Galileo's Error & How Panpsychism Solves It 1:16:40 - End Credits
Lex Fridman - Philip Goff: Consciousness, Panpsychism, and the Philosophy of Mind | Lex Fridman Podcast #261 youtu.be/BCdV6BMMpOo
Mind Chat - Sean Carroll & Philip Goff Debate 'Is Consciousness Fundamental?' youtu.be/rCPCyri1rXU
Skeptic - Michael Shermer with Philip Goff — Galileo’s Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness youtu.be/GFzqquKt3KECausality & Atheism Critiqued (Featuring the Northern Atheists)Consciousness Matters2023-10-13 | The Northern Atheists kindly invited me to talk. Causality was the draft subject, so I put it to a vote offering them some other topics.
They chose: "A Critical Analysis of Atheism"
Join me as I pitch what's wrong with atheism and our notions of causality to my local atheist group, the Northern Atheists. They're great sports and I want to thank them for making me welcome.Does AI Know Consciousness?Consciousness Matters2023-05-07 | I have a chat with the sum total of human knowledge wedged into a predictive language model to see how close AI is to understanding the complexities of consciousness.No Evidence For An Afterlife?Consciousness Matters2023-03-24 | If my work is usually philosophical, Darren McEnaney's work is usually talking to expert researchers around anomalous experiences including past lives, near death experiences and more. The two of us met up for a chat. Thanks @SeekingI
0:00:00 - Introduction 0:02:49 - Rationality, Science & Philosophy 0:06:10 - What Seeking I Does & Addressing Criticism 0:11:48 - The Issues Explaining NDEs Materialistically 0:18:22 - The Problem of Veridical Perception 0:20:26 - Anomalous Experiences & Consciousness 0:23:44 - Illusionism 0:32:25 - Is This Wishful Thinking? 0:39:48 - Physics Vs Consciousness 0:41:44 - Strange Experiences 0:44:38 - Natural Vs Supernatural 0:48:13 - Science Problems 0:52:58 - The Reassuring Safety Blanket of Physicalism & Materialism 0:56:33 - Physics Is Fine, But We Must Add Consciousness 0:59:47 - Sam Parnia's NDE Study 1:01:15 - Other Evidence & Terminal Lucidity 1:08:13 - Examples of Veridical Perception 1:16:25 - Past Life Reports From Children 1:23:22 - Evidencial Mediumship 1:24:56 - "Peak in Darien" Experiences 1:26:49 - Psi Phenomena 1:29:51 - Disclaimer & UpdateAn Appeal to QED, a Science & Skepticism ConventionConsciousness Matters2022-09-24 | This is a video I've posted to twitter.com/QEDcon
If you'd like to support the tweet by retweeting it and sharing it with anyone who might find the prospect of me in with a sea of skeptics an amusing or interesting idea, you can find it here: twitter.com/ConsciousnessM3/status/1573817490232250368?s=20&t=1GBUpNsaDX3mWkKgsSLT-gLets Steelman Illusionism with Keith FrankishConsciousness Matters2022-08-04 | Is consciousness an illusion? For me it couldn't be more real. Watch as I try to steelman illusionism with the help of one of the worlds leading academic proponents of this philosophy of mind, Dr Keith Frankish.
0:00:00 - Episode introduction 0:01:09 - Saturday highlights for context 0:05:17 - Title sequence 0:05:34 - Sunday chat, what we can agree on regarding consciousness 0:06:22 - The inner world objection 0:08:05 - The niave view of the world 0:10:13 - Souls vs the mind is what the brain does 0:14:09 - Cottrell's zombie 0:18:40 - What is illusionism? 0:20:27 - Perceptual consciousness & intereospective consciousness 0:25:09 - Comparing illusionism to panpschism and idealism 0:31:56 - The subject of experience 0:36:14 - Opening up dialogue between sides 0:37:46 - The active subject wager 0:39:23 - How can emergent things be causal? 0:56:34 - The God Delusion & The You Delusion 1:37:34 - Addressing the 2nd transduction problem with quantum mind theories 1:55:48 - The central point of contention 1:56:46 - Do androids feel pain? 2:02:15 - The power of the dollar, the vim 2:07:40 - The freewill of batteries 2:19:26 - Summarising and reflecting on the conversation so far 2:20:19 - Any mentions? 2:22:14 - Before closing 2:22:38 - End credits
Philosopher Philip Goff on Galileo Excluding Consciousness From Science youtu.be/EczCvJrQtXwLets Talk Physicalism (with Tom Jump)Consciousness Matters2021-06-21 | I lean heavily towards idealism, but I'm open to having my mind changed while sharing what has lead me to what I believe. Today I have a chat with Tom Jump, who describes himself as a physicalist.
0:00:00 - Introduction 0:03:53 - What's Tom's perspective? Philosophers are wrong. 0:16:36 - Entertaining Idealism or Dualism 0:20:05 - Consciousness Causes Our Conversations About Consciousness 0:23:29 - Tom Disagrees - Novel Testable Predictions 0:27:25 - Tom Won't Take Illusionism Off The Table 0:31:07 - Attempting To Argue Consciousness Causes Things 0:35:08 - Imagining Consciousness Isn't Causal 0:40:03 - Why Physicalism Instead of Agnosticism? 0:50:43 - Matter, Energy & Consciousness, Order Of Operations 0:57:10 - Arguing Consciousness From Epistemology 1:01:12 - The Influence Of David Chalmers 1:03:47 - Tom's Objection To My Epistemology Argument 1:05:25 - There Are No Causal Things Above Physics 1:06:12 - Ghosts That Trip People Up 1:11:53 - Back To Where Consciousness Belongs
Is Consciousness Just An Illusion? bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39482345God Of The Gaps - Its A TRAP! (Keys Of The Gaps)Consciousness Matters2021-05-24 | The God Of The Gaps argument is a trap. This episode helps make sense of why so many people go wrong of the God of the Gaps by simplifying the problem into one we can all get our heads around.
Bedside Table: Wood photo created by mrsiraphol - www.freepik.comA Theist & An Atheist Figure Something Out (With Timothy Matthew Johnson)Consciousness Matters2021-03-12 | Why is that some people are persuaded that atheism is most rational and some that theism is most rational? As someone who believes that there is a mind behind the universe, I talk to Timothy Matthew Johnson, who does not. We hear each other out and we figure something out.
Time Indexes:
0:00:00 - Episode Introduction 0:00:51 - Conversation Starts, Preparation & Declaration of Open Mindedness By Myself 0:01:36 - Timothy Matthew Johnson Introduces Himself 0:11:40 - I Introduce Myself In Kind 0:13:44 - Timothy Pick's Up The Fascination About Consciousness 0:15:09 - I Explain That Getting Philosophy Of Mind Right Is Very Important To Me 0:15:24 - Timothy On Free Will 0:17:10 - Brains Correlate With Consciousness 0:19:46 - Solving The Hard Problem of Consciousness With Panpsychism 0:27:51 - Solving The Hard Problem of Consciousness With Idealism 0:31:41 - How Idealism Relates To Theism 0:31:41 - Steelmanning Theism With Minimal Theism (Part 1 of 4) 0:34:28 - Timothy's False Dichotomy Of Theism & Atheism 0:38:21 - Steelmanning Theism With Minimal Theism (Part 2 of 4) 0:40:22 - Fabian Cuello's Argument For Theism 0:46:59 - Is The Word Supernatural Even Useful? 0:52:01 - Claims Remaining From Scripture 0:58:53 - 1st Party Vs 3rd Party God Claims 1:01:33 - Falsifiability 1:03:42 - Bayesian Approaches 1:05:26 - Steelmanning Theism With Minimal Theism (Part 3 of 4) 1:06:22 - The Meta Problem Of Consciousness 1:10:53 - Timothy's Stance On There Being No Self 1:15:11 - Divergence Point, I Start To Fail To Understand Timothy's Position 1:17:04 - Steelmanning Theism With Minimal Theism (Part 4 of 4) 1:24:08 - David Chalmers, Sean Carroll & Philosophical Zombies 1:26:07 - The Case For Believing In No Self 1:31:10 - Why Dismiss The Notion Of Consciousness Selecting Possibilities? 1:33:17 - Experience Without An Experiencer? 1:36:29 - Let's Assume I'm Wrong 1:41:56 - Timothy's Twitch Handle 1:42:21 - Closing ThoughtsI Dont Believe In Atheism, A Conversation With Ryan MulreninConsciousness Matters2021-02-26 | I don't believe in atheism and Ryan is an agnostic. I justify and explain myself and see if I can make a persuasive argument in favour of theism, that mind is the origin of all things.
Sky commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Clouds_(5).jpgThe Origin of Consciousness – How Unaware Things Became Aware, Kurzgesagt Consciousness CritiquedConsciousness Matters2021-01-08 | Once in a while someone tries to explain the origin of consciousness in scientific terms. Kurzgesagt has tried to do that in the episode titled 'The Origin of Consciousness - How Unaware Things Became Aware'. I'll be analysing and critiquing their argument. Will their claims stand up to scrutiny?
A lot of the time I produce scripted and edited content to convey what I've learnt as best as I can. Today it's a special episode as after a 4 minute introduction it hands off to a uncut recording of the Bernardo Kastrup Book Club (bernardokastrupbookclub@gmail.com). We've read 4 of his books so far and have questions. I've got a couple of my own. There are 5 themes to the conversation tonight and the time indexes are as follows:
0:00:00 - Introduction for Consciousness Matters subscribers and those new to Idealism and why we need to take it seriously. 0:03:40 - New To Bernardo's Work? Don't Panic - Help Playlist (Playlist link featured below in Help Section) 0:03:56 - Book Club Q&A Introduction Begins 0:05:35 - Theme 1. Exploring Mind 0:39:38 - Theme 2. The Relationship Between Mind And Matter 1:05:35 - Theme 3. Will & Free Will 1:20:46 - Theme 4. Anomalous Experiences, NDE's, OBE's, Psi, Reincarnation 1:46:38 - Theme 5. Meaning & Purpose 2:17:27 - Final Thoughts
Thank you so much to the Bernardo Kastrup Book Club for some great conversations and challenges, your thoughts and ideas over the last two months.
😆 Help Section - Feel Lost? 😆 If this is the first time of running into Bernardo's ideas for you, then you may find the following playlist an excellent introduction to Bernardo's work. Having which, you may well further enjoy hearing Bernardo answer the book club questions. youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWvmPFBWToaK13hRduzGMheDj5W-TDoxj
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Bernard Kastrup Book Club: bernardokastrupbookclub@gmail.comReincarnation & NDEs, An Academic MontageConsciousness Matters2020-09-01 | There's a great deal of confusion about what academic evidence is available and is not available to support ideas of reincarnation and near death experiences as real phenomena. It is perfectly legitimate to question the evidence, to state that it's inconclusive or in some way insufficient, but is it really ok to simply deny it's existence? How common is this basic denial in academic circles?
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What's causing the problems we find at the moment? Are we really stuck, or have we made a mistake? I explore these questions in this episode.
Donald Hoffman Clip From: youtu.be/6eWG7x_6Y5UThe Mind Body Problem Quiz ShowConsciousness Matters2020-06-27 | You know mind... you know body... how does that work? This is the mind body problem Quiz Show! As I lack a studio audience, please feel free to record reactions to the show yourself including clapping and laughing wherever you actually feel like, ideally with headphones on to get your reactions clearly on the mic without too much background sound and if I get enough I will mix them together into a virtual audience and do another revision with that mixed in. Just link to your reaction in the comments.
Wood texture for Irreducible Ivity book background: pexels.com/photo/wood-timber-brown-lumber-139306Exceptional Conscious ExperiencesConsciousness Matters2020-06-14 | Many of us are fascinated by Exceptional Conscious Experiences. We sometimes are led to believe that these experiences are impossible or that they do not stand up to scrutiny. This lecture will give an outline of the scientific investigation into Exceptional Conscious Experiences including Telepathy, Near Death Experiences (NDEs), Tantra (Psi Based Empathy), Out of Body Experiences (OBEs), Mystical Experiences, Psychedelic Mystical Experiences, Reincarnarion & Presentiment.
Sensing the Future | Precognition and Science Institute of Noetic Sciences youtu.be/famOBwD2K3g
Tantric energy tested by science Somananda Tantra School youtu.be/AIR1lBHS2PgAre We Trapped In the Matrix?Consciousness Matters2020-06-06 | Throughout history humans have believed things that have turned out to be false and in retrospect, seem silly. So what are the beliefs of our time that seem reasonable to us now that our descendants will have debunked and find amusing? Why is it as humans that we are susceptible to false beliefs?
Recommended Viewing List:
Leonardo DiCaprio & The Nature of Reality: Crash Course Philosophy #4 CrashCourse youtu.be/IV-8YsyghbU
Why do we believe things that aren't true? | Philip Fernbach | TEDxMileHigh TEDx Talks youtu.be/jobYTQTgeUE
John Wilkins - Physicalism & Materialism Science, Technology & the Future youtu.be/8Xn5w_KcdII
Are We Living in a Simulation? – 8-Bit Philosophy Wisecrack youtu.be/JB3v3bDba5gThe Demonstrable Power of Free WillConsciousness Matters2020-06-05 | Free will, one of the most interesting and controversial ideas in philosophy. People claim to debunk the idea of free will, I believe I have demonstrable proof that you can verify for yourself.
Recommended Viewing List:
Determinism vs Free Will: Crash Course Philosophy #24 CrashCourse youtu.be/vCGtkDzELAI
The Mystery of Free Will: Donald Hoffman scienceandnonduality youtu.be/cT7hf8NOEk4Unifying Science & ConsciousnessConsciousness Matters2020-06-01 | We have a story of science and a story of consciousness, but how do we reconcile these stories? This is part of the Rational Spirituality crash course.
Recommended Viewing List:
The Standard Model - with Harry Cliff The Royal Institution youtu.be/MRwRNMgOGL0
A Brief History of Quantum Mechanics - with Sean Carroll The Royal Institution youtu.be/5hVmeOCJjOU
Emergence – How Stupid Things Become Smart Together Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell youtu.be/16W7c0mb-rE
What is Panpsychism? | Rupert Sheldrake, Donald Hoffman, Phillip Goff, James Ladyman The Institute of Art and Ideas youtube.com/watch?v=B7KaNnFij2Q&t=80s
Consciousness and the Mystery of Existence - Documentary about Consciousness and Reality (2020) metaRising youtu.be/_2DyvF03isM
Grandeur Rationality Rules youtu.be/zMwXBzuPH9cThe Rational Truth About ConsciousnessConsciousness Matters2020-04-22 | We're all conscious and we feel like a subject experiencing the world, but some scientists would like to disagree. Surprisingly the rational truth finds serious problems with what's intellectually fashionable.
Important Note:
Since the uploading of this video, I've seen further statements from both Sean Carroll & Richard Dawkins that contradict earlier statements that they are illusionists. Just be aware that they say contradictory things on this matter.
Irreducible Ivity, a guide to irreducible subjectivity without the subject, is the latest in Sam's fine literary works, providing philosophical consideration for the modern intellectual.
I'm delighted to announce an exclusive preview of the book, but without giving away any serious spoilers. Just enough to whet your appetite!