Mormon Stories Podcast
The Genesis of the CES Letter - Jeremy Runnells Pt. 1 - Mormon Stories Ep. 480
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/churchhistory/how-the-priesthood-and-temple-bans-ended
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00:10:16 Summary of where we left off
00:12:55 Hugh B. Brown was terrified the ban would last forever
00:22:16 Kimball is well aware of the history of doing away with polygamy
00:28:25 How doctrine is now created
00:33:29 Who is Spencer W. Kimball?
00:39:50 Kimball’s famous address in 1974
00:43:55 Lester Bush
00:51:55 There is NO revelation tying the ban to Joseph Smith
00:58:40 Packer and Andersen try to convince Bush not to publish his research
01:08:40 Did Lester Bush’s article affect Kimball’s revelation?
01:11:05 How groundbreaking was Lester Bush’s article?
01:30:31 What if the ban WAS started by Joseph Smith?
01:32:50 Did the IRS cause the ban to be lifted?
01:40:50 Asking Jimmy Carter if he put the pressure on the Church
01:42:46 The law didn’t go into effect until 1981
01:51:40 The Church and women’s rights and LGBTQ rights
02:03:15 What were some of the other factors for lifting the ban?
02:06:50 Kimball going after the hold-ups first
02:11:00 Kimball saying they needed new theology
02:14:35 Why didn’t the lifting of the ban go through Africa?
02:17:25 Helvécio Martins’ son wanting to serve a mission
02:22:30 Kimball at a meeting and has Martins come up
02:26:04 Sister missionary discovering that her grandfather was black
02:30:48 How Kimball gets the rest of the Apostles to agree to lift the ban
02:33:33 Can the Apostles keep journals?
02:36:33 Kimball meeting with the twelve in January 1978
02:40:00 Kimball sends Mark Peterson away on a mission
02:41:00 Convincing Ezra Taft Benson
02:47:45 Revelation occurs when people are on their tippy toes
02:48:50 How this revelation is different than members understand it
02:54:46 Seeing how the sausage is made
02:55:55 If Stapley and Peterson were there with Benson would the ban have been lifted
03:01:40 How they decide to tell the rest of the General Authorities
03:07:20 They were summoned to this special meeting
03:16:47 Statement made by the Church on lifting the ban
03:23:20 Questions that still remained unanswered
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/marriage/sisters-convert-then-leave
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:05 Intentions for coming on Mormon Stories
00:05:12 The beginning of their Mormon story
00:10:55 Meeting with the missionaries
00:19:44 Growing up in the church
00:27:55 How did they identify with the doctrine
00:38:00 Sydney’s always had gay friends
00:44:33 Modesty standards in preparation for garments
00:49:44 She did not have shame when speaking to her bishop
00:51:34 Sydney serving a mission at age 19 in Bolivia
00:59:45 Was she shocked when she got to Bolivia?
01:08:25 Sydney going through the temple for the first time
01:09:40 She laughed with her mom in the ceremony
01:10:00 She didn’t understand what was happening
01:10:11 Being in the MTC
01:21:30 She got sick a lot on her mission
01:27:35 What was it like for Lexi when Sydney served her mission?
01:37:00 Coming home from her mission
01:41:23 Men being creepy towards her while she was living in Ohio
01:46:10 Lexi serving a mission
01:48:50 She was called to the California Redlands Mission
01:58:55 Struggling on her mission
02:04:45 Lexi coming home from her mission
02:09:00 Experiences at BYU-Idaho
02:13:10 Getting her nose pierced as a believing Mormon, she also got a tattoo
02:14:55 Sydney questioning the church
02:20:12 Sydney moving to Las Vegas
02:25:38 The musket fire talk by Holland
02:28:37 Life after Lexi’s mission
02:38:20 Finally telling each other where they studio in the church
02:39:27 Why were they NOT sharing their deconstruction journeys?
02:48:55 Lexi deconstructing the church
02:58:34 Closing remarks
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/marriage/skin-of-blackness-and-mormon-apologetics
00:03:00 Summary of the past episodes and this episodes
00:09:04 Clip - The change in the Book of Mormon
00:09:37 Not every reference to skin color has been changed
00:14:14 Has any prophet said it meant something other than skin?
00:19:10 Clip - Skin of Blackness as Garments
00:25:55 What Jasmine and Neal are doing here
00:31:41 These are all talking about “seed” not animal skin
00:36:00 Mound Builder Myth
00:37:20 Ethan Sproat
00:42:13 Clip - Skin of Blackness as Paint
00:57:09 Clip - Blackness as Tattoos
01:02:10 Jasmine is not seeking truth
01:05:25 How is the church doing in Latin America? It’s not growing
01:09:12 Clip - Skin of blackness as Symbolic
01:13:17 Appealing to ancient civilizations that have nothing to do with the Lamanites
01:15:06 Problems with Ethan Sproat’s theory of this being symbolic
01:16:59 The church literally believes that Jesus is a white man
01:18:25 Clip - Jasmine trying to explain away the racism
01:22:00 Not every Mormon scholars tries to make apologies for this
01:24:07 Clip - One convert’s acceptance of the Book of Mormon
01:33:30 God doesn’t deny any that come unto Him, he just turns them white
01:36:40 Invite this woman on Mormon Stories
01:37:35 Who do we listen to: Apologists or Prophets, seers, and revelators?
01:40:00 The church should not be hiding behind paid apologists
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/healthy-mormon-divorce-meg-campbell
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:23 Intentions for Meg
00:06:40 Background
00:10:53 She wasn’t a “knower”
00:15:40 The role of women in the church
00:21:55 What was she taught to value in a man?
00:27:30 Did she pray and ask if he was right to marry?
00:31:55 Dating for two years
00:33:55 She had to have weekly meetings with her bishop
00:39:25 They were in a healthy place and the church made it unhealthy
00:43:30 Marital Contract
00:47:35 How much of this was her wanting to do this personally or was it all external?
00:51:40 When things started to fracture in the marriage
00:56:44 Her husband leaving the church felt like a huge betrayal
01:00:54 How eternal families work in the Mormonism
01:07:04 Manufactured scarcity, other religions believe families are forever anyway
01:08:50 This was the beginning of a faith crisis for her
01:16:40 Some of the issues she had with the church
01:23:24 Her husband did not bless their baby
01:26:35 The message the children were getting about their dad
01:32:20 How the church sets up women to be vulnerable
01:35:20 Four years later they got divorced
01:45:25 What did she feel about divorce before she got to that point?
01:51:22 Why do you rate relationships by longevity?
01:53:03 Meeting with an Uncoupling coach
01:55:41 Prioritize your kids well being
02:00:50 Often one person wants to stay in the marriage and the other doesn’t
02:05:55 Her children’s relationship with the church at this time
02:11:05 Her son being asked if they attend church
02:14:35 Recap of what she did to make her divorce healthy
02:20:45 Understanding the difference between boundaries vs gestures of goodwill
02:28:55 Different therapies that work
02:40:35 What has come from the divorce?
02:52:43 Alimony, child support, dos and don’ts of Divorce
03:04:25 Dating after divorce
03:17:04 Helping others through their divorces
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The full interview with Brian Hales on the CES Letters can be found here: youtube.com/watch?v=EUkwJX3NcSY&t=1273s
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/brian-hales-admits-ces-letter-is-right-polygamy
00:00:00 Introducing the CES Letter
00:08:12 Introducing Zeke
00:16:00 Clip - Brian Hales is the authority when it comes to polygamy
00:21:50 Clip - Background on Brian Hales
00:23:50 Polyandry in the Mormon church
00:34:15 Fanny Alger
00:43:00 Background of authority and keys
00:49:30 God sending an angel to command him to live polygamy
00:51:06 Clip - Brian Hales talking about Fanny Alger
01:01:08 What Brian Hales is agreeing to with the CES Letter
01:03:00 What happened to Oliver Cowdery
01:04:20 Clip - Fanny overview part two
01:11:55 The Law of Sarah
01:18:16 Clip - sealing keys being restored
01:27:35 Clip - How many wives did Joseph Smith have?
01:34:30 When polygamy becomes world news
01:41:14 Clip - Was Joseph dragging his feet?
01:45:19 Zina Huntington
01:51:53 Sending men on missions
01:55:03 Clip - Eternity only marriages
01:59:26 Ruth Vose Sayer
02:02:23 Simultaneous vs consecutive wives
02:03:45 Comment from Brian Hales on Dan Vogel’s video
02:10:00 Car family history
02:17:55 Clip - Nobody complained about polyandry
02:24:40 Clip - It’s in the Bible
02:30:41 Clip - No reports of polyandry
02:39:31 Clip - Polyandry didn’t happen
02:44:33 Clip - Stop accusing Joseph Smith of polyandry
02:49:55 Did Joseph Smith sleep with Helen Mar Kimball (14 years old)
02:55:54 Clip - Warren Jeffs vs Joseph Smith
03:09:10 Did Joseph coerce these women?
03:07:50 Clip - Emma accepting polygamy
03:16:09 Clip - Emma rejecting polygamy
03:18:36 The long process of breaking down Emma into acceptance
03:24:40 Joseph used coercion in D&C 132
03:28:13 Clip - Does the Church practice polygamy?
03:31:55 Don’t worry if there is [insert problem] in heaven
03:39:55 Clip - Joseph wasn’t smart enough to write the Book of Mormon
03:44:19 Sandra Tanner on how good the Book of Mormon really is
03:47:45 Final words
03:50:55 Hard on systems and not on people
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/temple-worker-loses-faith-michelle
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:00 Intentions for coming onto Mormon Stories
00:06:55 Beginning of her Mormon Story
00:13:53 Growing up in the Church
00:24:13 High School years
00:32:50 Lessons of the curse of the skin of blackness
00:34:44 Modesty lessons
00:36:04 Members in her High School group have mostly left the church
00:42:12 Hank Smith was her Seminary teacher
00:47:38 She started modeling in high school
00:59:24 Deciding to serve a mission
01:03:40 Going to the temple for the first time
01:14:03 The church branded her internal voice as Satan
01:17:39 What was the MTC like?
01:30:04 Her mission experience
01:52:42 Quentin L. Cook spoke in her mission
01:58:02 Her twin sister stopped attending church while Michelle was on her mission
02:02:38 She watched a TV show before her mission and confessed to her mission president
02:07:54 LGBTQ+ rights and experiences
02:12:00 Returning home from her mission
02:16:19 Speaking in Mandarin
02:21:38 Finally learning about female anatomy
02:30:30 Protests at BYU
02:40:33 Dr. Julie Hanks and how she helped her
02:46:13 Giving a talk about affirmations and people loved it
02:48:25 Being diagnosed with ADHD
02:53:39 Becoming a temple worker
02:58:04 Garments
03:16:34 Working as a Temple Worker
03:38:29 Women missing arm not allowed to perform ordinances
03:52:43 Wearing garments makes you feel you are robbed of childhood
03:55:15 I don’t need eternity. It’s always the villain seeking eternal life
04:05:55 Her mom should feel proud for how her kids turned out
04:07:40 Saying no to a calling, telling bishop she doesn’t believe any more
04:13:06 Body image issues disappear when perfectionism disappears
04:20:40 Is she worried about this interview at all?
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/mormon-prophets-hired-snipers-general-conference
00:00:00 Introductions
00:02:30 Quick review of past episode
00:05:45 Darron’s academic interests
00:15:22 Setting the stage for the BYU protests
00:26:12 Photo from the book, student protestors raising their fists
00:29:15 When did other sports teams integrate black athletes?
00:35:10 Rethinking racial policies and public image of the school/church
00:44:30 Creating an image where the church can look diverse
00:50:14 An awareness in the history department, acknowledgement of lack of black history
00:51:20 Fear of the Negro Twist and Black culture
01:05:55 Black sexuality is what’s driving this
01:13:20 The Conference (snipers on the roof of the tabernacle)
01:25:47 Statement that the church is not racist
01:32:38 Who was Darius Gray?
01:45:50 Students had to take religion classes learning about Mormon racism
01:51:59 In Mormonism, everyone was white in heaven
01:56:50 BYU’s first black faculty member
02:03:28 Woman being asked if she change her skin to white if you could?
02:09:07 The IRS and it’s Mormon leader at the time
02:19:34 Setting the stage for a white student named Sharon Pugsley
02:24:28 Fawn Brodie gave a talk on race
02:29:09 BYU is also targeted for not hiring women
02:35:15 Darron’s final remarks
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/excommunication-of-nemo-vigil
00:00:00 Introducing the panelists
00:03:35 Ruth is there in Oxford on the ground
00:08:45 Are Nemo’s parents active in the Church?
00:11:25 What happened in Natasha’s excommunication
00:12:43 Why Natasha was excommunicated
00:16:35 Ruth - Rob Seminary teacher in Oxford
00:18:40 Sam Young’s excommunication
00:24:28 Ruth - Paul from Scotland is a good friend of Nemo
00:27:31 Bill Reel’s excommunication
00:31:04 Clip from Nemo’s channel - Elder Holland lying
00:32:26 Ruth - Jacob from Switzerland is a friend of Nemo
00:33:57 Bishop Sam Pinson’s excommunication
00:39:25 Nemo wasn’t even told the grounds for his apostasy
00:39:50 Ruth - Ganesh
00:44:24 Clip - Nemo calling out Nepotism in the Church leadership
00:46:55 Leah and Cody Young’s excommunication
00:52:15 How difficult excommunications can be on family
00:53:20 Ruth - Jammie Dodgers for those there on the ground
00:55:50 Recent report of Oaks’ training to increase Disciplinary Councils
00:57:15 Ruth - Nemo’s friend Glenn
01:01:05 Radio Free Mormon on these new trainings for Disciplinary Councils
01:05:22 Radio Free Mormon on these new trainings for Disciplinary Councils
01:08:04 Sam Shelley from Zelph on the Shelf
01:12:47 Ruth - Peter Bleakly
01:16:30 Nemo’s role in the BritVengers
01:24:38 Rebecca talking about the Fairview Texas, Temple
01:27:55 Nemo joined from the Council
01:31:55 Nemo thanking everyone for his support
01:34:35 Nemo had to sign a contract that he would NOT make any recording of the meeting
01:40:25 Nemo reading under the sign
01:44:30 The truth doesn’t really matter
01:46:20 Private communications played a significant role
01:52:17 Ruth - Everyone plans to gather with Nemo
01:56:40 Final remarks from the panelists
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/tithing-james-huntsman-appeals
Original oral argument: youtube.com/watch?v=ds0mK4pJ9YQ
00:00:00 Intro
00:06:00 Summary of Huntsman’s case
00:07:35 Summary of the three different cases
00:11:30 Feedback from believing member
00:13:50 Huntsman theory explained
00:16:35 Huntsman Procedure Explained
00:20:22 Relevant Facts in the Panel’s Decision
00:25:50 Today’s oral argument
00:30:32 Live hearing
00:34:06 The meaning of tithing
00:37:50 “This case has been misframed by the church”
00:43:18 Other statements made by the leaders
00:51:18 Where is the misrepresentation?
00:59:36 Paul Clement attorney for the church
01:05:20 Talking about the three buckets
01:11:25 The church’s autonomy doctrine
01:16:35 Explaining the money
01:21:22 The church saying they’re going to use church money
01:30:11 Huntsman’s lawyer for his last five minutes
01:33:55 The church set its own secular conditions for the money
01:37:44 The ending of the case
01:38:11 Comments on the case
01:48:05 Questions around the autonomy doctrine
01:48:05 Questions around the autonomy doctrine
01:51:25 A Church can always change it’s doctrine later
01:53:50 Who speaks for the church?
01:57:06 First Amendment question (Joined by a friend)
02:06:00 What is likely to happen next
02:09:25 Hinckley’s 2003 statement
02:13:55 Hinckley had intentions of misleading the members
02:16:35 The church made five statements on this
02:18:23 Presiding Bishop 2003 Statement
02:21:55 Ensign December 2006
02:26:55 The final statement 2012 “not one penny”
02:33:00 Views on Hinckley
02:34:35 Why were these five statements ever made?
02:37:00 The church admitted to co-mingling
02:41:05 James Huntsman's residency
02:47:00 Which attorney did better?
02:49:30 Who is more likely to win in the law
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/are-mormon-husbands-jerks-exmormons-react-to-secret-lives
00:00:00 Introductions
00:04:17 Who are the real villains of SLOMW?
00:09:20 Tara Herbert being mission companions with Whitney Leavitt
00:15:10 The men were behaving in the worst ways
00:19:55 Was Whitney framed as the villain?
00:27:20 Discussing episode six and labiaplasty
00:32:15 Women pleasing the “male gaze”
00:41:34 Clip of Zac’s opinion on Jen going to Vegas
00:44:40 Was it a threat or a joke?
00:46:00 Toxic provider mentality from Zac
00:53:22 Jen is in this unbalanced role
00:57:00 Chippendales
01:03:25 Comments from Zac’s family
01:08:35 How Jen is treated in the Affleck family
01:13:55 What happens with Chippendales for Layla’s birthday
01:21:25 Jen trying please everyone in Mormonism
01:24:10 Zac gambled $2,500 of Jen’s money
01:24:29 Clip of Jenn Affleck defending Zac
01:30:30 Zac is weaponizing the church
01:35:00 Are Mormon husbands bad?
01:43:35 What aspects of Mormonism might be at play here
01:53:20 The next morning after Chippendales the women were worried for Jen’s life
01:56:26 The church pushing against Women’s Rights in the 70s
02:01:50 Jen saying that no one would love Zac more than he does
02:09:20 Talking about Whitney
02:14:00 Dakota and Taylor’s relationship
02:34:25 Episode 8
02:46:45 Whitney putting a used pregnancy test in the cake
02:55:00 Recap of how the show ended
02:56:00 Hayley talking about Jessi being on her podcast
02:58:50 Will there be a season two?
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Recordings of the oral arguments are available for download here: http://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/oralargument/search
Show Notes: mormonstories.org/church-on-trial-history-fraud
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:24 Introducing the panelists
00:05:21 Summary of the three different tithing cases
00:11:20 Gaddy case explained
00:11:50 The complaint
00:17:30 RICO and the dismissal of the Gaddy case
00:22:00 Summary of the “intention to defraud”
00:27:00 Legal questions vs moral questions
00:29:16 Church Autonomy Doctrine (Bryce case)
00:30:40 Where does history end and matters of doctrine begin?
00:31:55 Background for the Bryce case - The church was teaching anti LGBTQ+ things
00:35:30 The start of the oral argument
00:40:20 Why does it matter if the church leaders believe the doctrine?
00:40:55 If the church leaders believe it, do they lose their lawsuit?
00:43:50 Kay Burningham’s argument
00:44:55 Questions that hint at intent
00:47:40 How far does this go?
00:52:34 Back to the audio of the case oral arguments
00:55:30 This is different than any church - The Correlation Committee
01:00:53 Audio - Tithing to have the full benefits of the Church
01:03:40 Quotes that say the Church is NOT using tithing to build the mall
01:05:55 Fraud in the law
01:10:30 Why Huntsmans lawsuit has legs
01:13:11 David Jordan speaking on behalf of the Church
01:16:40 What the plaintiffs are arguing
01:18:17 Reactions to the Church’s lawyer
01:20:55 What is the end result of this trial? What’s the downside here?
01:23:36 Audio - No limit to what churches can conceal?
01:26:52 Audio - The Church misleading them about tithing
01:29:20 The church’s definition of tithing
01:37:38 Mr. Jordan is trying to say Hinckley did NOT make misrepresentations
01:38:35 Audio - Kay Burningham’s final response
01:42:26 Why Elder Oaks says the Church cannot apologize
01:47:30 Audio - Packer saying they don’t have to tell all the truth
01:50:00 The big takeaways
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/skin-of-blackness-the-mormon-curse
00:00:00 Introductions
00:05:48 Clip from Scripture Central
00:07:10 Gerardo’s take on being raised a “Lamanite”
00:12:40 LDS Church financial connection
00:14:09 Brigham Young instructing members to “Buy up the children”
00:18:36 Brigham Young, 1852, Removing curse through marriage
00:32:00 Role of apologists in apostasy
00:35:07 James E Talmage 1917
00:40:55 Spencer W. Kimball clip
00:42:57 Quote from Joseph Fielding Smith
00:47:58 Who is the Book of Mormon written for?
00:56:05 Spencer Kimball talking about skin color changing
01:00:07 What does “delightsome” mean?
01:05:29 Missionary Pamphlet from 1974
01:15:04 George P. Lee Talk
01:18:00 Damage control from LeGrand Richard
01:25:05 Book of Mormon Stories Children’s Reader
01:27:55 Thomas Murphy’s research
01:30:08 Simon Southerton’s research
01:36:28 Book of Mormon Videos casting calls
01:40:27 These apologists are just making stuff up
01:48:15 Error in printed manual in 2020
01:57:40 This absolutely was about skin color
02:01:48 Are these theories harmful?
02:04:34 Putting the blame where it belongs -on the top Church leadership
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/brazilian-mormon-story-ribeiro
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:30 They host a podcast called “Uncensored Mormonism”
00:01:45 Intentions for coming on Mormon Stories
00:05:10 Marcelo was raised in a non-practicing Catholic family
00:12:00 The very first time he saw a missionary was on a bus
00:16:50 What was his baptism like?
00:27:35 Sandra grew up Catholic, born in Varjota
00:35:30 What made her interested in the Mormon church?
00:45:20 Marcelo’s church mission
00:51:55 Were they taught about the priesthood and temple ban for black people?
00:55:10 The church does not provide its members with informed consent
00:58:30 His mission hurt his family relationships
01:11:23 She was called into a worthiness interview
01:17:50 Going to the temple for the first time
01:27:05 He served as a bishop in Brazil
01:30:15 He was called as a Stake President at age 32
01:38:40 What was it like coming to BYU after Brazil?
01:49:20 When did their faith start unraveling?
01:57:20 The first time he had a real encounter with racism
02:01:10 No one should be baptized into the church without being taught these things
02:06:20 Marcelo went with Sandra to talk to the bishop
02:14:30 He reached out to a CES leader and asked for answers
02:25:45 Asking his questions to the Stake President
02:39:00 The story of Marcelo being brought in to be excommunicated
02:52:20 How does he balance his love for the church and the betrayal?
03:07:15 What is the active membership in Brazil?
03:12:20 Are they happy now?
03:20:00 What is life like now since leaving the church?
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00:00:00 Introductions
00:04:23 Setting the scene during the Federal Investigation
00:08:38 Who was Hugh B. Brown?
00:16:35 Who was in attendance during this meeting?
00:24:09 Summary of what is happening
00:30:12 Mormonism’s Negro Policy article
00:38:00 Hugh B. Brown set up a meeting at the Hotel Utah with David O McKay
00:42:00 How solid is Taggert’s article?
00:50:17 If he could ask Taggert one question
00:58:55 Letter to Jerald Tanner
01:03:45 Hugh B. Brown falls into a depression because of this continued ban
01:20:00 Benson’s talk “The Book of Mormon Warns America”
01:29:19 Quote with Benson - “The Constitution hangs by a thread”
01:40:11 Context for this speech and Brown’s reaction to it
01:41:49 Hugh B. Brown’s response talk
01:50:30 Brown was thwarted by Harold B. Lee
01:56:18 Harold B. Lee makes a statement and Hugh B. Brown reluctantly signs it
02:00:04 Brown speaks to the media yet again
02:02:53 Harold B. Lee informed Brown that he was out of the First Presidency
02:10:58 Stories of how damaging it was for Hugh Brown to be dropped
02:18:11 Did Hugh B. Brown remain a believing member all his life?
02:26:41 Hugh B. Brown’s children
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:55 Are they true Mormons?
00:01:35 Introducing the panelists
00:07:19 Who is Mormon and who is not
00:08:15 The show is NOT about swinging, Taylor was the only one involved
00:19:35 The most damaged marriage is from the most mormon woman
00:26:12 Clip - Why call them Mormon wives?
00:30:35 The church claims 17 million members worldview
00:35:35 Mormonism is fascinating for the outsiders
00:41:23 Clip - Seeing Mormon as a culture
00:53:30 Clip - Taylor Frankie Paul having church at home
00:55:15 Who represents the mainstream church?
01:00:45 Culture and what’s said on the pulpit
01:02:25 Clip of Taylor’s mom Liann May
01:08:30 Drinking at the graduation party
01:10:44 How welcoming are Mormons to exMormons or non-Mormons?
01:18:45 Zac is the one behind the exclusion at the baby blessing
01:23:50 Giving up your identity for your partner
01:30:50 Gross exMormon behavior around alcohol
01:36:00 Botox with laughing gas
01:45:10 Prosperity gospel
01:47:30 The Galentines party
02:02:55 The Truth Box
02:15:35 Ketamine
02:27:40 Whitney left the group chat
02:41:40 Mayci, Taylor and Dakota drama
02:45:00 Layla hosting a divorce party
02:53:40 Final remarks
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For Nemo’s YouTube channel click here: youtube.com/@NEMOTHEMORMON
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/nemo-the-mormon-to-be-excommunicated
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:43 He feels like his community is cutting him off
00:07:50 Background of Nemo
00:12:50 He wants to help keep the leaders honest
00:14:53 Nemo the Mormon YouTube channel
00:16:05 Nemo is among the youngest people excommunicated for apostasy
00:18:50 The Brit-Vengers
00:23:00 What excommunication means
00:23:30 The impact of the Brit-vengers in the UK on the Church
00:27:11 Some of Nemo’s best videos on his channel
00:29:55 Nemo being on LDS Discussions
00:33:00 Was Nemo asking to be excommunicated?
00:39:25 He doesn’t want to leave the church
00:40:25 Why Nemo wants to stay
00:42:38 Is there a part of Nemo that loves the Church?
00:44:22 Reading the letter
00:51:35 This letter came out of nowhere
00:59:20 Nemo has NEVER been counseled to STOP doing what he’s doing
01:00:13 Possible candidates that lead to this excommunication
01:09:22 Clip of Nemo speaking to the Fairview Temple Texas Council
01:15:00 Nemo being on LADBible
01:15:34 How will the church respond to him being on LADBible?
01:23:30 Is this the End of Nemo the Mormon?
01:27:25 Is his excommunication a Nelson thing or an Oaks thing?
01:30:00 New training on Membership councils
01:34:50 The Mormon church treats abusers better than its treating Nemo
01:35:45 Critical comments and Nemo’s responses
01:38:56 How is he really feeling about all of this?
01:43:30 How to support Nemo the Mormon
01:45:10 Will he have people speak on his behalf?
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/mormons-react-to-secret-lives-of-mormon-wives
00:00:00 Intro & intentions
00:07:00 The Church’s preemptive statement
00:16:00 Embracing the label “Mormon”
00:27:07 Garments presented by influencers
00:34:44 The cast of characters
00:36:25 Full breakdown of the cast
00:40:41 Swinging is a big part of this Drama
00:45:45 How much is swinging a thing in Utah?
01:14:57 Can The Secret Lives change a conservative religious culture?
01:18:30 Whitney and Mayci are asked about being excommunicated
01:22:45 If Mormonism is your only tool set
01:30:20 Recap of Episode One
01:40:10 Trying champagne for the first time
01:43:40 Whitney talking about her husband Conner
01:52:45 Mikayla having a baby at age 16 with someone who was 21
02:04:15 The dark conclusion of episode one
02:11:40 The phenomenon of young moms
02:17:15 Brand deals and sexuality in Mormonism
02:25:48 How the dad talked to Dakota
02:29:00 How episode two ends
02:33:55 Whitney not going to the baby shower
02:27:50 Final questions
02:46:15 Mayci Neeley on being Mormon
03:04:30 The history of the Relief Society
03:12:44 Wrapping up
___________________
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Show Notes: mormonstories.org/millennials-defend-mormonism-thestickofjoseph


