Steve McIntosh: Presence of the Infinite Debunked! Full @integral2.015

Integral 2.0 (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.

0:00 Introduction
1:05 Areas of Agreement
3:00 Intention behind the making of this video
4:00 Opening Questions (Cosmology and Telos)
8:46 Steve's Answers
16:41 A Deeper Look at Steve's Belief System
22:30 Unfounded Claims - A Lack of Integrity
28:33 Evolutionary Spirituality and Science
35:50 Bracket That - Not Enough Time
36:30 Logical Problems w/ his Response
42:42 What is the Omega Point?

Bad Methodology - Unskillful Integration:
44:11 Personal Experience of the Absolute
47:32 The Hermeneutic Circle
50:22 Confirmation Bias
52:40 The Wilber/Combs Matrix
55:20 Looking in the Appropriate Quadrant for Data
57:26 Far Sighted Mish-Mashing
1:02:08 "Attractor Basin" as a Justification for Theism
1:10:21 Interdependent Polarity?

1:18:19 A Healthy Relationship to Life & Nature
1:28:51 Non-Dual (Absolute Perfection/Relative Suffering)
1:33:24 Theodicy - The Problem of Evil/Suffering
1:39:15 Anthropocentric Notions of Absolute Perfection
1:40:53 Bad Design
1:44:13 Joseph Campbell on Absolute Telos
1:45:58 Humans are not the End of Evolution
1:47:00 Inevitable Perfection?

1:48:39 Pre/Trans Distinctions: Good&Bad Integration/Translation
1:48:56 What IS and IS NOT "Trans-Rational"
1:55:29 Prickles and Goo Watch Star Wars
1:58:00 The Pre/Trans Fallacy
2:03:26 VIsion Logic
2:05:29 The Cup/Poetry & The Sword/Rationality
2:07:19 Ken Wilber on Joseph Campbell & The Pre/Trans Fallacy
2:08:50 Joseph Campbell on Myth and Metaphor
2:13:14 Inside/WE Speak and Outside Skillful Means
2:15:28 Michael Dowd - Trans-Rational Demonstration
2:23:57 Comparing Mike & Steve
2:26:26 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Person Perspectives of God
2:32:04 Conclusion & Review

2:35:24 Now What - IErM
2:36:00 Don Beck on Wilber & 3 Tier Stages
2:37:32 Integral Integrity/Split
2:38:06 Ken Wilber
2:38:42 Jeff Salzman
2:39:27 Terry Patten & Urantria
2:41:41 Call to action
2:42:28 Integral Split - Join The IErM

IErM Facebook Group:
facebook.com/groups/557738274374294

Other Links:

"Benevolent Creator God" Steve McIntosh: the Daily Evolver Summery:
youtube.com/watch?v=B12ZNwMBLdA

Steve McIntosh at SMU 11/01/15 (Steve's Full Talk)
youtube.com/watch?v=7vjXVX9S7nM

Occam's Razor:
youtube.com/watch?v=9XEA3k_QIKo

The "Straw Man" Fallacy:
youtube.com/watch?v=v5vzCmURh7o

Do You Know God?:
youtube.com/watch?v=P0A_iF1B3k0

Sam Harris on "Free Will":
youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

I AM (david long) on Truth and Integral Epistemology
youtube.com/watch?v=5qZcd-TfnBE

I AM (david long) Semantic Compatibilism Intro
youtube.com/watch?v=VDrv0zasqZc

Semantic Compatibilism: A Post-Formal/Trans-Rational View
I AM (david long)
youtube.com/watch?v=aGf3g4bNGOQ

Rev. Michael Dowd - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview
youtube.com/watch?v=FqS6xipj7jE

updated 8 years ago

Steve McIntosh: Presence of the Infinite Debunked! Full

Integral 2.0 2016-05-05 | (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.

0:00 Introduction
1:05 Areas of Agreement
3:00 Intention behind the making of this video
4:00 Opening Questions (Cosmology and Telos)
8:46 Steve's Answers
16:41 A Deeper Look at Steve's Belief System
22:30 Unfounded Claims - A Lack of Integrity
28:33 Evolutionary Spirituality and Science
35:50 Bracket That - Not Enough Time
36:30 Logical Problems w/ his Response
42:42 What is the Omega Point?

Bad Methodology - Unskillful Integration:
44:11 Personal Experience of the Absolute
47:32 The Hermeneutic Circle
50:22 Confirmation Bias
52:40 The Wilber/Combs Matrix
55:20 Looking in the Appropriate Quadrant for Data
57:26 Far Sighted Mish-Mashing
1:02:08 "Attractor Basin" as a Justification for Theism
1:10:21 Interdependent Polarity?

1:18:19 A Healthy Relationship to Life & Nature
1:28:51 Non-Dual (Absolute Perfection/Relative Suffering)
1:33:24 Theodicy - The Problem of Evil/Suffering
1:39:15 Anthropocentric Notions of Absolute Perfection
1:40:53 Bad Design
1:44:13 Joseph Campbell on Absolute Telos
1:45:58 Humans are not the End of Evolution
1:47:00 Inevitable Perfection?

1:48:39 Pre/Trans Distinctions: Good&Bad Integration/Translation
1:48:56 What IS and IS NOT "Trans-Rational"
1:55:29 Prickles and Goo Watch Star Wars
1:58:00 The Pre/Trans Fallacy
2:03:26 VIsion Logic
2:05:29 The Cup/Poetry & The Sword/Rationality
2:07:19 Ken Wilber on Joseph Campbell & The Pre/Trans Fallacy
2:08:50 Joseph Campbell on Myth and Metaphor
2:13:14 Inside/WE Speak and Outside Skillful Means
2:15:28 Michael Dowd - Trans-Rational Demonstration
2:23:57 Comparing Mike & Steve
2:26:26 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Person Perspectives of God
2:32:04 Conclusion & Review

2:35:24 Now What - IErM
2:36:00 Don Beck on Wilber & 3 Tier Stages
2:37:32 Integral Integrity/Split
2:38:06 Ken Wilber
2:38:42 Jeff Salzman
2:39:27 Terry Patten & Urantria
2:41:41 Call to action
2:42:28 Integral Split - Join The IErM

IErM Facebook Group:
facebook.com/groups/557738274374294

Other Links:

"Benevolent Creator God" Steve McIntosh: the Daily Evolver Summery:
youtube.com/watch?v=B12ZNwMBLdA

Steve McIntosh at SMU 11/01/15 (Steve's Full Talk)
youtube.com/watch?v=7vjXVX9S7nM

Occam's Razor:
youtube.com/watch?v=9XEA3k_QIKo

The "Straw Man" Fallacy:
youtube.com/watch?v=v5vzCmURh7o

Do You Know God?:
youtube.com/watch?v=P0A_iF1B3k0

Sam Harris on "Free Will":
youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

I AM (david long) on Truth and Integral Epistemology
youtube.com/watch?v=5qZcd-TfnBE

I AM (david long) Semantic Compatibilism Intro
youtube.com/watch?v=VDrv0zasqZc

Semantic Compatibilism: A Post-Formal/Trans-Rational View
I AM (david long)
youtube.com/watch?v=aGf3g4bNGOQ

Rev. Michael Dowd - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview
youtube.com/watch?v=FqS6xipj7jE

integral Basics 1: Quadrants

Integral 2.0 2019-08-26 | In the first episode of "Integral Basics" Kai shares his understanding of the 4 Quadrants of Integral theory.

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#integraltheory #quadrants #aqal

IRL: Jordan Peterson & Slavoj Žižek DEBATE: Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism

Integral 2.0 2019-08-12 | Integral Review Live w/ I AM - David Long & Aljoša Kutnjak on the Debate between Jordan Peterson & Slavoj Žižek on "Happiness: Capitalism vs. Marxism" in the "I AM - David Long's Friends & Fans" Facbook group (go join it: facebook.com/groups/IAMDavidLongFans)

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IRL - Joseph Campbells Power of Myth pt.2 Message of the Myth

Integral 2.0 2019-05-21 | In these very special episodes of Integral Review Aljoša and David did a LIVE, book club style review, every week in the "I AM - David Long's Friends & Fans" Facbook group (go join it facebook.com/groups/IAMDavidLongFans) for all 6 parts of Joseph Campbell's Power of Myth (now on Netflix). This is part 2 of 6. We highly suggest you watch these videos along with/after each episode of Power of myth to really get the full experaince! We really hope you enjoy this as much as we did. We want to do more things like this in the future so keep an eye out and make suggestion in the comments. Index pinned in the first comment!

Get your Integral Maps Out:
http://www.iam-davidlong.com/integralintro

Aljoša Kutnjak Social Media Links:
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#JosephCampbell #PowerofMyth #MessageoftheMyth

IRL - Joseph Campbells Power of Myth pt.1 Heros Journey

Integral 2.0 2019-03-15 | In these very special episodes of Integral Review Aljoša and David did a LIVE, book club style review, every week in the "I AM - David Long's Friends & Fans" Facbook group (go join it facebook.com/groups/IAMDavidLongFans) for all 6 parts of Joseph Campbell's Power of Myth (now on Netflix). This is part 1 of 6. And we highly suggest you watch these videos along with and after each episode of Power of myth to really get the full experaince! We really hope you enjoy this as much as we did. We want to do more things like this in the future so keep an eye out and make suggestion in the comments. Index pinned in the first comment!

Get your Integral Maps Out:
http://www.iam-davidlong.com/integralintro

Aljoša Kutnjak Social Media Links:
YouTube Channel:
youtube.com/channel/UCtJkv0iPrfk9Ea34eyAy7Yg
Facebook:
facebook.com/aljosa.kutnjak
LinkedIn:
linkedin.com/in/aljo%C5%A1a-kutnjak-1a526ab2
Instagram:
instagram.com/aljosakutnjak
Twitter:
twitter.com/aljosa_kutnjak

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Music:
iamdavidlong.bandcamp.com

#JosephCampbell #PowerofMyth #HerosJourney

Integral Theory/Movement, Pre/Trans Symbolism, Zeitgeist, etc.

Integral 2.0 2017-03-15 | Aljoša Kutnjak interviews Artist, Musician, Philosopher, and Founder of the Integral Emergentist rEvolutionary Movement, I AM - David Long for his Slovenian podcast "Začni Razmišljat" or the "Start Thinking Podcast". They talk briefly about David's personal history and then get into topics of Integral theory, pre/trans distinctions and a skillful use of religious symbolism, problems and potentials within our Integral community, as well as The Venus Project and the Zeitgeist movement, and "what to do about Islam?".

Don Beck challenges Ken Wilber to Debate!

Integral 2.0 2017-01-22 | I AM - David Long stirs the pot and points out problems and areas of disagreement about theory within the Integral community.

IErM Integral Governance w/ Cecile Green: Collab Intro

Integral 2.0 2016-07-13 | Cecile Green will co-host with David Long and we are going to talk a bit about our methodology and Integral practice in action and how we can get started. Cecile teaches us a few things about her system Collab, and she will talk and answer questions about: Integral governance and methodology.

Now What - IErM

Integral 2.0 2016-06-04 | (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.

235:24 Now What - IErM
236:00 Don Beck on Wilber & 3 Tier Stages
237:32 Integral Integrity/Split
238:06 Ken Wilber
238:42 Jeff Salzman
239:27 Terry Patten & Urantria
241:41 Call to action
242:28 Integral Split - Join The IErM

IErM Facebook Group:
facebook.com/groups/557738274374294

Pre/Trans Fallacy: Good&Bad Integration/Translation

Integral 2.0 2016-06-03 | (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.

148:39 Pre/Trans Distinctions: Good&Bad Integration/Translation
148:56 What IS and IS NOT "Trans-Rational"
155:29 Prickles and Goo Watch Star Wars
158:00 The Pre/Trans Fallacy
203:26 VIsion Logic
205:29 The Cup/Poetry & The Sword/Rationality
207:19 Ken Wilber on Joseph Campbell & The Pre/Trans Fallacy
208:50 Joseph Campbell on Myth and Metaphor
213:14 Inside/WE Speak and Outside Skillful Means
215:28 Michael Dowd - Trans-Rational Demonstration
223:57 Comparing Mike & Steve
226:26 1st, 2nd, & 3rd Person Perspectives of God
232:04 Conclusion & Review

A Healthy Relationship to Life & Nature

Integral 2.0 2016-06-03 | 118:19 A Healthy Relationship to Life & Nature
128:51 Non-Dual (Absolute Perfection/Relative Suffering)
133:24 Theodicy - The Problem of Evil/Suffering
139:15 Anthropocentric Notions of Absolute Perfection
140:53 Bad Design
144:13 Joseph Campbell on Absolute Telos
145:58 Humans are not the End of Evolution
147:00 Inevitable Perfection?

Bad Methodology - Unskillful Integration

Integral 2.0 2016-06-03 | (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.

Bad Methodology - Unskillful Integration:
044:11 Personal Experience of the Absolute
047:32 The Hermeneutic Circle
050:22 Confirmation Bias
052:40 The Wilber/Combs Matrix
055:20 Looking in the Appropriate Quadrant for Data
057:26 Far Sighted Mish-Mashing
102:08 "Attractor Basin" as a Justification for Theism
110:21 Interdependent Polarity?

IErM 1st Meeting

Integral 2.0 2016-06-02 | Join our IErM FB group:
facebook.com/groups/557738274374294/637010803113707/?notif_t=group_activity¬if_id=1464726288003310

Agenda:
Opening,
Introductions and background/Intentions & special skills/perspective,

David gives update -
A brief introduction to the projects and goals in front of us as well as some ideas for other possible projects and ways to get involved,

Questions and Comments,

Other project Ideas/ questions/ etc.,
Questions and Comments,

Reflections/Closing,

Topics:
Governance :
CoLab - Members - Dues - Roles - Rules/Methods
MastroConfrence - Dues: Patrion

Webpage:
Philosophy - Threads

Reworking:
UL/UR correlations
(tetra-arising)
(gross subtle causal non dual -terms)
(2nd and 3rd tier stages)
(trans-rational / vision logic)

IErM Handbook :
Longview - Mission Statement - Distinctions - Methodology - Integral integrity

Local Integral Sangha/ We Space

Media:
IErM YouTube:
Steve McIntosh
IErM video
Pre/trans series

Interviews:
For IErM and the Integral community:
Cecil Green
Don Beck
Frank Visser
Julian Walker
Michael Dowd

Events/Debate/Conferences

Writing Podcasts and Interviews
(shake up community)

Readit

Other:
Fiction story/world

LInks:
Cecile Green Collab Integral Operating Systems Intro
youtube.com/watch?v=jH79C6WQL-A

Frédéric Laloux and Reinventing Organizations
1. youtube.com/watch?v=ne0_KVOY2F4
2. youtube.com/watch?v=gcS04BI2sbk

Create data trees based on wiki articles
http://xefer.com/WIKIPEDIA

Addressing Integral Integrity w/ (I AM) David Long on Steve McIntosh Trailer

Integral 2.0 2016-05-06 | In the full length video (I AM) David Long takes a critical look at the ideas/belief system shared by Steve McIntosh about a personal benevolent creator God, Perfection, Transcendence, The Omega Point, and how they do or do not relate to Integral Evolutionary Spirituality and issues within our Integral community at large.