Greg Brahe, Bob Greaves, and Eric Hovindkaine diatheke2026-09-19 | Greg Brahe, Bob Greaves, and Eric Hovindthe existence of God is an empty proposition that theists and atheists are clamoring on aboutkaine diatheke2018-06-01 | Steven Hoyt: "The conversation can only be about whether there's any benefit in having certain experiences or in thinking one way or the other; irrespective of suggesting said experiences or ideas are at all related to the existence or non existence of deity."
Steven Hoyt said the followingas well:
Apatheism ...
Ultimately, I want to suggest that one conclusion ought to be fairly certain, and that isn't whether or not there is a God. I have to start by repeating myself however. This will outline a challenge that has to be answered, else the conclusion that there is or isn't a God is irrelevant.
There are two identical universes that differ only in that one has a God and the other doesn't. One may say that no universe can exist without a God, so, this hypothetical isn't valid. One may say no Gods are required for any universe, so again, this hypothetical isn't valid. But both can be dismissed as empty criticisms; both are bald and would appeal to facts of the matter that can't settle who would be right; this is the crux of the problem itself in the hypothetical. The challenge of this scenario is to imagine that you've been placed in one of these universes and you are asked to say which. Given that the universes are otherwise identical -- each has logic, morality, order, math, god-talk, numinous experience, miracles, meaning, and so on -- to what would one appeal to tell?
Thus far, folks thought it important to try and meet "The Great Debate" in a straightforward fashion by exactly attempting to make distinctions. This has been a failure on both sides of the argument. More importantly, one should realize the not-so-straightforward problem. One can have religions experiences without there being a God, one can have meaningful things to say about God even though there may not be a God at all. Worse, because this implies religious experiences and religious ideas aren't contingent to the existence of God, what import can they have if a person is wanting to know or experience the divine? If our knowledge or experience of God is dubious in this way, God's existence not logically necessary for us to claim such knowledge or experience, what does either matter?
These are the problems a modern thinker should be tackling because if God, however defined, transcends practical human meaning and experience, the existence of God is irrelevant. As such, the existence of God is an empty proposition atheism and theism are clamouring on about, misguided and mistaken. The conversation can only be about whether there's any benefit in having certain experiences or in thinking one way or other; irrespective of suggesting said experiences or ideas are at all related to the existence or non existence of deity.The Placekaine diatheke2018-05-30 | Are we the GOAT?i so enjoyed showing G MAN lots of love, respect and understandingkaine diatheke2018-05-27 | The beginning of love is to let those we love be perfectly themselves, and not to twist them to fit our own image. Otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them. --Thomas Mertonat times, life is just too funnykaine diatheke2018-05-26 | Without question, I love the world, not because its like me, but rather because humanity is my family. ~michael w. jonesim committed to a process, not a conclusionkaine diatheke2018-05-25 | I stated back in 1978, God is but the abstraction of the idea by which people have oriented themselves to produce a functional society. ~michael w. jonesThe Place | Justification of Atheism?!$$, Justification of Theism?!$$, and Chess Moveskaine diatheke2018-05-24 | Steven Hoyt and I go one on one for 40 minutes and then the questions fly to make the game interesting.
"Games between two players, of the kind where one player wins and one loses, became a familiar tool in many branches of logic during the second half of the twentieth century. Important examples are semantic games used to define truth, back-and-forth games used to compare structures, and dialogue games to express (and perhaps explain) formal proofs.
The links between logic and games go back a long way. If one thinks of a debate as a kind of game, then Aristotle already made the connection; his writings about syllogism are closely intertwined with his study of the aims and rules of debating. Aristotle's viewpoint survived into the common medieval name for logic: dialectics. In the mid twentieth century Charles Hamblin revived the link between dialogue and the rules of sound reasoning, soon after Paul Lorenzen had connected dialogue to constructive foundations of logic.
There are close links between games and teaching. Writers throughout the medieval period talk of dialogues as a way of ‘teaching’ or ‘testing’ the use of sound reasoning. We have at least two textbooks of logic from the early sixteenth century that present it as a game for an individual student, and Lewis Carroll's The Game of Logic (1887) is another example in the same genre. There are plenty of modern examples too, though probably there has not been enough continuity to justify talking of a tradition of teaching logic by games."
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-games/The Place | God is love; love is God.kaine diatheke2018-05-21 | "God is but the abstraction of the idea by which people have oriented themselves to produce a functional society." ~michael w. jonesReflections with rhonda joneskaine diatheke2018-05-20 | ...THIS VS THATkaine diatheke2018-05-20 | helloThe Place | i endorse the use of bibles and prayer in school, but Greg Brahe disagrees with mekaine diatheke2018-05-17 | I'm committed to a process, not a conclusion. And yes, I endorse the use of bibles and prayer in school.The Place | why are so many abusing theology?kaine diatheke2018-05-14 | ncgstudios.tv/donate.html
Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems.Reflections with Rhonda Joneskaine diatheke2018-05-13 | helloTHIS VS THAT | prayer for the sick and afflicted??!!!?;;*%$%&kaine diatheke2018-05-13 | "As a practice, prayer is the setting of an intention; it is not a plea, but a resolution, and that resolution takes many forms. Whatever that form, the psychology that underlies prayer issues forth from two fairly distinct perspectives. On the one hand, God, or the object of prayer, may be represented as an external construct of the ego, or something "out there". On the other, God may be represented as an interior archetype, or something "in here".
The various spiritual and religious traditions -- major and minor, dormant and new - each fall primarily into one of these two containers, and then include some lesser blending of the other. This fundamental psychological framework subsequently influences and informs the form that prayer and meditation take within each of the various spiritual traditions.
The major Western traditions, such as Christianity, Judaism and Islam subscribe in large measure to the "out there" construct; so, God is primarily "prayed to". The mystic traditions associated with each of these larger traditions -- Gnosticism, Kabala and Sufism, respectively - lend the "in here" aspect to this particular container, resonating with the notion of the Self as divine." --Michael J Formica MS, MA, EdMThe Place | Justification in Classical Christianity vs Justification in Philosophykaine diatheke2018-05-10 | A simple chat: Theory of justification is a part of epistemology that attempts to understand the justification of propositions and beliefs. Epistemologists are concerned with various epistemic features of belief, which include the ideas of justification, warrant, rationality, and probability, but the biblical usages are much different.The Place | You feel God’s presence, so what!kaine diatheke2018-05-07 | Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems. ncgstudios.tv/donate.htmlTHIS VS THAT | theology, not fundamentalismkaine diatheke2018-05-06 | Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems. ncgstudios.tv/donate.htmlwe are thankful to have you in our lives.kaine diatheke2018-05-06 | ...The Place | isms: atheism, theism, agnosticism and a dog named Bookaine diatheke2018-05-03 | What say you?
NCG Studios' core focus is building community among people of differing opinions and social classes. Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. The government is powerless to heal and empower its people, and the poor among us are suffering for it. The only way to heal is to begin from the inside out, and so that begins with our local community, and your local community. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems.
NCG Studios' core focus is building community among people of differing opinions and social classes. Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. The government is powerless to heal and empower its people, and the poor among us are suffering for it. The only way to heal is to begin from the inside out, and so that begins with our local community, and your local community. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems.The Place | DOXASTIC AND NON DOXASTIC THEORIES & THEORIES OF TRUTHkaine diatheke2018-04-26 | Steven Hoyt and I will attempt to get the conversation going. And your input is desired. Thanks.
"The greatest task in epistemology is the quest for certainty and truth in knowledge, but due to skepticism it is far from being achieved. Yet theories emerged as an attempt to prepare a bedrock for epistemic justification and essentially to give epistemology a foundation and a means to eliminate skepticism. These theories are classified into doxastic and non doxastic theories. Doxastic in the sense that the justifiability of a belief is a function exclusively of what beliefs one holds of one's doxastic state, and non doxastic in the sense that belief is not the only determinant for epistemic justification but with the aids of an external factors outside ones doxastic state." --Patrick Mendie
"The three most widely accepted contemporary theories of truth are [i] the Correspondence Theory ; [ii] the Semantic Theory of Tarski and Davidson; and [iii] the Deflationary Theory of Frege and Ramsey. The competing theories are [iv] the Coherence Theory , and [v] the Pragmatic Theory ."
NCG Studios' core focus is building community among people of differing opinions and social classes. Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. The government is powerless to heal and empower its people, and the poor among us are suffering for it. The only way to heal is to begin from the inside out, and so that begins with our local community, and your local community. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems.
ncgstudios.tv/donate.htmlThe Place | Demonizing the out-crowd, misrepresenting your enemieskaine diatheke2018-04-23 | NCG Studios' core focus is building community among people of differing opinions and social classes. Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. The government is powerless to heal and empower its people, and the poor among us are suffering for it. The only way to heal is to begin from the inside out, and so that begins with our local community, and your local community. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems. http://www.ncgstudios.tv/donate.htmlReflections with Rhonda Joneskaine diatheke2018-04-22 | ...THIS VERSUS THAT | Does Turn the Other Cheek Mean Get Walked All Over?kaine diatheke2018-04-22 | What if the author used metaphor to nuance a point about debate, not abuse?The Place | Anthony Magnaboscos Street Epistemologykaine diatheke2018-04-19 | Anthony Magnabosco said, "Personally, I absolutely enjoy conducting “street” Epistemology where the talks are initiated. I never know what belief a person will choose to discuss or which direction the talk will go. I also get to hone my skills, and it’s incredibly rewarding when your interlocutor later exclaims, “That was the best talk I’ve had with someone in a very long while!”
http://www.ncgstudios.tvThe Place | misinformation is perhaps the narrative of atheism and theismkaine diatheke2018-04-16 | Misinformation is perhaps the narrative of atheism and theism. AND Energized by passion, not reason....Reflections with Rhonda Joneskaine diatheke2018-04-15 | ...THIS VS THAT | I walked away from institutional church, not ἐκκλησίαkaine diatheke2018-04-15 | Jones said, "When it comes τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ, I'm committed to this kind of modality, but not how it has been presented through Christianity's ism."The Place | did John author Jesus as God as a rhetorical device, a claim, or just nuance?kaine diatheke2018-04-12 | NCG Studios' core focus is building community among people of differing opinions and social classes. Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. The government is powerless to heal and empower its people, and the poor among us are suffering for it. The only way to heal is to begin from the inside out, and so that begins with our local community, and your local community. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge the divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to rise above all of our current problems. http://www.ncgstudios.tvThe Place | How words impede successful communication: the downside of determinant nomenclature.kaine diatheke2018-04-09 | How words can impede successful communication: the downside of determinant nomenclature, but the need/usefulness of it.
http://www.ncgstudios.tvReflections with Rhonda Joneskaine diatheke2018-04-08 | ...THIS VS THAT | IMHOkaine diatheke2018-04-08 | “When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch.” ― Bette Davis
“Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in.” ― Isaac Asimov
“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Emerson in His Journals
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.” ― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
“Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible, and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing that they evidently prefer.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the RingsInviting you to NCG Studioskaine diatheke2018-04-08 | ...The Place | Aron Ra and I walked south on Palafox, the heart of downtown Pensacola (raw footage)kaine diatheke2018-04-03 | Jones said the following:
"I'm committed to a process, not a conclusion, but that doesn't mean that I don't work with conclusions and work through conclusions. So, make that kind commitment and we will all win!
Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to change our current social climate."
"Rationality does not mean being a perfectionist in one's thoughts and ideas. It does not require you to spend enormous amounts of time evaluating every idea. It does not require you to learn everything there is to know, to become an expert at every topic. Rationality means acting according to reason. It means accepting only that which you have reason to believe. It means using logic to weed out any contradictions. It means when you have to accept the judgment of another, you use your own mind to determine whether you should. Is the person educated in that field? Is it knowledge that someone is capable of having? From what you know about the rest of his ideas, is he someone you believe will be correct? Rationality is foremost a method of survival. It is a virtue only to the extent that it encourages one's survival." ~Jeff Landauer and Joseph Rowlands
Support the process: http://www.ncgstudios.tvThe Place | the crazy things that we did in the name of Jesuskaine diatheke2018-04-02 | helloReflectionskaine diatheke2018-04-01 | ...THIS VS THAT | a reset, a pivot, and a commitment to process, not conclusionkaine diatheke2018-04-01 | "We are doing a reset, a pivot, and inviting people to make a commitment to a process, not a conclusion." ~michael w. jonesThe Place | Atonement theories: penal substitution, Christus Victor and a dog named Bookaine diatheke2018-03-29 | The Bible is an awesome collection of writings, but unfortunately, too many theists and atheists would rather talk about how fundamentalists rendered it.The Place | Ephesianskaine diatheke2018-03-26 | Right now, our nation is fragmented, our leadership is polarizing, and tensions are high. Help us to build programs and projects that will bridge divides, bring people together, and spark the imaginative thinking that we so desperately need to change our current social climate.
http://www.ncgstudios.tvTHIS VS THAT | what ifkaine diatheke2018-03-25 | ...The Place | Once again, bible questions on faith and justificationkaine diatheke2018-03-22 | "Therefore, since we have been declared righteous according to faith, we have peace (cessation of againstness) with our notions of God through stories of what we perceived about a gentleman: Jesus Christ, but that's not reality. So, let's move on to something far better." ~michael w. jonesTHIS VS THAT | is it truly this versus that?kaine diatheke2018-03-18 | Perhaps we should question what we are doing.The Place | answering a few bible questions, but it wont satisfy fundamentalists of either ismkaine diatheke2018-03-16 | when bob and i chat about theories of truth, it comes out like this: "It might seem that to know the world simply requires a verifiably correct observation of it. So we gather well accepted empirical observations. Then assume we now have the facts. But wait. Might this be naïve? Since we are limited by the constraints of human cognition, we can never ultimately know if we have transcended into actual truth or remain in the prison of theory."The Place | Bob makes sensekaine diatheke2018-03-12 | ...QC | pivotingkaine diatheke2018-03-11 | ...THIS VS THAT | does the source matter?..?!kaine diatheke2018-03-11 | I hope that we can put my uncle in the canon. If not, then Jesus should not be there either.The Place | can we merely suppose that some claim is true while we explore the implicationskaine diatheke2018-03-08 | can we merely suppose that some claim is true while we explore the implications, rather than believing it...just toying around this evening without feeling obligated to what they say.The Place | Your brain is wired to make judgments automatically?kaine diatheke2018-03-05 | http://www.ncgstudios.tvTMOGkaine diatheke2018-03-05 | ...QC |God, not God....????@#$%^&*&^%$kaine diatheke2018-03-04 | ...THIS VS THAT | Agnosticism, suspending judgment, or.... | Cary Todd (special guest)kaine diatheke2018-03-04 | Are many of us guilty of saying that we have suspended judgment on the question of God, but also have taken the position of not really?