Alison Tieman
Threat Narrative Tropes
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twitter.com/Oneiorosgrip/status/1281946053290463232?s=20
twitter.com/Oneiorosgrip/status/1281946053290463232?s=20
twitter.com/MatterStill/status/1279603780951011328?s=20
unqualified-reservations.org/2008/05/ol3-jacobite-history-of-world
youtu.be/cWPvGBsvOmY?t=1032
And no matter what black women are always worse off than black men, so you can do whatever you want to black men and only have to deal with the situation black women are in.
Your Sarcastic Wench @CathyYoung63 2h2 hours ago
Apparently MRAs can endlessly quote something a radfem wrote in 1980 but so unfair for me to quote what one of them wrote in 2013 😏
Vicsor-Reanimator @Sarochi1 2h2 hours ago
@CathyYoung63 Was it retroactive satire?
Alison Trump Ladin @Typhonblue 52m52 minutes ago
@Sarochi1 @CathyYoung63 Please use reason. Why would I advocate "enthusiastic consent" as a legal standard non-satirically?
Vicsor-Reanimator @Sarochi1 47m47 minutes ago
@Typhonblue @CathyYoung63 I have no clue what you 2 are disagreeing about (didn't even know it was you).
@Typhonblue @CathyYoung63 I just notice "it was satire" is the go-to defense when a manosphere-leaning person gets called out on stuff.
Blue Popo
@Battybuddy
@Sarochi1 @Typhonblue @CathyYoung63 well to be fair it's when ANYONE gets called out...
Alison Trump Ladin @Typhonblue 15m15 minutes ago
@Battybuddy @Sarochi1 @CathyYoung63 Maybe because all of our "hateful" rhetoric is just gender-reversed satire of misandry?
Alison Trump Ladin @Typhonblue 14m14 minutes ago
@Battybuddy @Sarochi1 @CathyYoung63 Is it possible we are not horrible people? Just beleaguered individuals attempting to put up a mirror?
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Father says he's going to challenge the wage gap by giving his daughter more money than his son. Fails to notice that this will do nothing to end a wage gap since his daughter isn't EARNING the money herself. Further fails to note that emphasizing his daughter's role as victim and recipient of male financial largess buys into the same socialization that leads to the wage gap. Finally fails to note how he has also done his part in creating the wage gap by funding his wife in not working. Then completes a TOTAL FAIL hat trick by saying his wife has fewer choices than him even though she has the choice to work or not work and HE DOESN'T.
All of this fail fuelled by an inability to connect women's choices to their outcomes, thus illustrating the man in question is saturated by the same dynamic that causes the wage gap in the first place.
So much failure, I don't even...
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Luck-Factor-Essential-Principles/dp/1401359418
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There are feminists arguing in the comments. Here's your opportunity to resist letting them change the frame. Remember the key point is that granting female suffrage created female supremacy by any reasonable measure and that feminists continue to frame that as "equality." Don't get sidetracked into irrelevancies about women fighting(ineffectively) to be let in combat or feminism's opinion on the draft or selective service.
Update: Notice how not one single feminist can admit that when women were granted suffrage that didn't create equality?
Update 2: The idea is to make feminists work--hard--to try and justify their world view. This is a war of attrition and when you're facing larger numbers as Sun Tzu says, you have the advantage of agility, so keep your enemy on the move while you stay as still as possible. Keep asking the same question "is that equality?" and keep them in constant acrobatics to try and rationalize their cognitive dissonance. Even though they constantly say the question is "illegitimate" they nevertheless can't walk away from responding. That's their recognition of both the question's legitimacy and it's devastating effect on their world view.
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The Detroit Men's Rights Conference is under threat of violence.
Additional members of Honey Badger Radio will attend the Detroit Men's Rights Conference to challenge the mainstream media's narrative about who Men's Rights Activists are. In addition having a highly visible group of women at the conference should serve to dissuade anyone who attends with the intent to engage in violence.
If they want to silence the Men's Human Rights Movement with violence, they can damn well go through us.
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Adele's original statement
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Dear Alison,
I know that statistics can be hard to interpret, but you need to learn to read before you spread misinformation into the stratosphere.
You said: "95% of abused boys in juvenile facilities reported being attacked/coerced by female staff". This is FALSE.
Re-read Google "Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities Reported by Youth, 2012"
"Sexual victimization" is there defined as ALL SEXUAL ACTIVITY with facility staff.
And the numbers are that, among males in juvenile facilities:
5.2% of MALE YOUTH engage in unauthorized sexual activity with MALE STAFF;
89.1% of MALE YOUTH engage in unauthorized sexual activity with FEMALE STAFF;
3% of MALE YOUTH engage in unauthorized sexual activity with both male and female staff.
This merely reflects THE PROPORTIONS OF GAY AND STRAIGHT MALES in juvenile detention centers, (and the fact that even people in detention centers like to have sex.)
Also noteworthy:
"As a result of the high rate of staff sexual misconduct reported in the NSYC-1 (10.3%), new items were added to the NSYC-2 questionnaire to better understand the circumstances surrounding incidents. Youth were asked a series of questions related to their relationship with the facility staff prior to sexual contact. Among victims of staff
sexual misconduct:
Nearly two-thirds said that staff told them about their personal life outside of work (69.1%), treated them like a favorite or better than other youth (63.6%), or gave them a special gift that the staff would not have given to most other youth (62.3%). Almost half (49.2%) said the staff member gave them pictures or wrote them letters. Nearly a third (29.8%) said that the staff member contacted them in other ways when the staff member was not at the facility. More than a third (36.7%) said youth gave the staff member pictures of themselves, and more than a quarter (28.1%) said youth gave the staff member a special gift.
When youth were asked who initiated the sexual contact, 36.4% said that the facility staff always made the first move, 17.4% reported that the youth always made the first move, and 46.3% said that sometimes the facility staff made the first move and sometimes the youth did.
Youth were also asked to describe the sexual relationship with staff. Nearly half (46.3%) said the incident was usually just sexual. An estimated 40.1% said the sexual contact was
more like friends with benefits, and 13.6% said that they really cared about each other.
Among the 840 youth who experienced staff sexual misconduct WITHOUT FORCE, 5.1% reported the involvement of a male staff member (2.7% involved male staff only and 2.4% involved both male and female staff).
So the 95% that you cite is of MALE YOUTH who experience sexual misconduct involving FEMALE STAFF WITHOUT FORCE.
http://www.thewhig.com/2014/04/09/queens-prof-targeted-by-group
My original upload had the interviewer's email address and also really low sound quality. I've removed the email address.
Here's a relevant comment by zarkoff45:
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http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry12.pdf
It's the "Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities Reported by Youth, 2012" data they were arguing about. That way people won't have to take your word for it. Remember, most people outside the MRM don't trust you yet.
Here are some quotes directly from the report:
"Most perpetrators of staff sexual misconduct were female."
"An estimated 92.4% of all youth who reported staff sexual misconduct said they were victimized by female facility staff. Among the estimated 1,390 adjudicated youth who reported victimization, 89.1% were males reporting sexual activity with female staff only, and 3.0% were males reporting sexual activity with both female and male staff."
"Among the estimated 1,390 youth who reported victimization by staff, 89.1% were males reporting sexual activity with female staff and 3.0% were males reporting sexual activity with both male and female staff. In comparison, males comprised 91% of adjudicated youth in the survey and female staff accounted for 44% of staff in the sampled facilities."
"About 1 in 5 (20.3%) victims of staff sexual misconduct reported experiencing physical force or threat of force, 12.3% were offered protection, and 21.5% were given drugs or alcohol to engage in sexual contact."
"Female-only facilities had the highest rates of youth-on-youth sexual victimization (5.7%), while male-only facilities had the highest rates of staff sexual misconduct (8.2%)."
"Males reported sexual activity with facility staff more often than females. An estimated 8.2% of males, compared to 2.8% of females, reported experiencing one or more incidents of sexual activity with staff."
NOTE please, that if youth who reported victimization were 89.1% males with female staff only and there were 1 in 5 (20.3%) victims of staff sexual misconduct using physical force or threat of force then it necessarily follows that some of the threat of or actual physical force was adult women on underage boys. Nowhere in the report does it say that the females only used gifts or were approached first as Adèle Mercier implied.
That last line - that's vital. She cherry-picked information to minimize female perpetration of coercion, and make the victims seem less harmed by the actions of the women who victimized them.
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+Alison Tieman Debate is a tool of the privileged upper classes, what rich white men have used to oppress and divide the meager and poor for centuries. Yet you would use this tool yourself, having been oppressed by it since antiquity? Truly, you are lost. Perhaps I was wrong, and death would be not a cruel and deserved fate for you, but a bitter mercy to end your pain.
But if it an argument you want, then an argument you shall have! Why do you support the MRM, when its very purpose is to re-enslave women? When it is full of sexist claptrap like the quote I left from Paul Elam, the movement's godfather? How it seeks to project itself onto feminism, how it silences them so their arguments cannot be heard? Or threatens them, track feminists down, and brutally beats them for their views? Or posts lists of their names, so sexist trolls can bombard them with rape threats. Can you answer these questions without some BS excuse like "not all MRAs are like that?"
Feminism was about equality, but the time for peaceful discourse draws to a close. If it is violence the MRM wants, then we will cut out equality by force, and write a new edict of fairness in your blood! Pick a side, Alison, but choose carefully. You don't want to be on the losing side of the war.
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