Tim Dark
PS3 Delliding Tools, A Hands On Comparison
updated
The NoPS2 issue is a problem that is increasing. It takes away the backwards compatibility of your beloved console and makes it as useful as a super slim!.
For the past two years, I have been looking at what could cause the problem. Both Computer Booter and Ace Consoles have tried multiple attempts to resolve the issue with no success.
I believe it's down to motherboard warping and microscopic corrosion that breaks the PS2 playback, I also believe that failing tokins could contribute to the issue.
So, for this reason, I try to straighten the motherboard with heat and a bracket. I have the tokins removed and replaced with tantalum capacitors on Ace PCB boards. Finally, I also have the motherboard ultrasonicly cleaned to remove any microscopic corrosion.
Enjoy the video. Could this be the fix we have all been waiting for? Better watch to find out!!
Today, I'm reviewing Console-Teks Frankenstein mod. As you may know, I'm currently learning the mod myself, which puts me in a good position to review this modification. However, due to work commitments and personal circumstances, I have been unable to dedicate the time required to master this mod completely. The sad passing of my mum meant I was unable to be in the right head space to finish mastering a difficult mod. I have to date completed 2 Frankensteins, but I didn't do the re-ballimg. My video showing how to do this mod will come out once i have mastered this process.
My main objective to learning this mod was to increase the quality of what was currently available. Shaun at Console-Tek has done just that, and his work is absolutely outstanding.
Enjoy the video and leave respectful comments.
Having risk assessed both processes and tested both versions of the fix, I have come to the conclusion that adding capacitors to the existing tokins is the way forward. This is a beginners guide, and I do go into detail about what's required and why in this video.
There is no need to remove those NEC tokins, so put that knife away! So many people, including myself, have damaged the console using this method!!
Please be aware that this is not for entertainment purposes. This is for the average person who has the ambition to fix their console. This is not a video of me showcasing my skills so you can marvel at my greatness!!, no, this is a in depth tutorial that will help you to diagnose and fix your console.
Below is a link to a discussion between two very respected members of the PS3 community. This ends with Felix saying its good enough to attach capacitors to the tokin. Having tested this exhaustively, I can confirm it is.
psx-place.com/threads/research-experimental-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod.25260/page-250#post-335800
Tantalum capacitors review
youtu.be/b-5v6Rje9OU?si=8x7qzY-dThy6GiIK
Link to capacitors
lcsc.com/mobile/product-detail/Tantalum-Capacitors_PANASONIC-2R5TPE470M7_C147773.html
Tools/materials required:
MPN: 2R5TPE470M7 470UF. 2.5V. 7 microfarads tantalum capacitors. 4 required
Multimeter
Leaded soldering wire
Toothbrush
Cotton buds
Isopropyl Alcohol
Flux
Some cardboard cut to size
A hot air station and soldering iron
Screwdrivers (Philips) to open console.
A small electric grinder tool or a tiny jewelers flat head Screwdriver to remove conformal coating.
Heat tape.
Small magnifying glass with built in light.
A desktop light with led lighting.
A cup of tea and plenty of patience
Self belief and a positive attitude.
Today, I was exploring what can cause the PS2 black screen of death. Although it's still inconclusive, it is highly likely that this particular version of the NoPs2 issue is caused by the RSX and NEC tokins. (Boots PS2 games when running hot, black screens when launching from cold boot. You can still access the menu to quit by pressing the home button)
I baked the motherboard for 3 hours at 120 degrees. The heat applied constantly over a long period of time can resolve flip chip and failing capacitors. I also piggybacked on two tantalum capacitors, one on the RSX side and one on the CPU. Although this didn't have an immediate effect, I believe this has helped to resolve the issue.
The question is, when the failing component dies completely, will it be possible to resolve? If it's the RSX, then the only fix would be a replacement GPU, if its just tokins, they can be replaced with tantalum caps. But back to my original theory, I think it's both, so if you get a black screen on PS2 games no matter how hot your console gets, then I belive all the NEC tokins will need replacing as well as the RSX, if that doesn't work, it's something else.
This is the most popular version of this issue that is well documented online. If your console black screens run your consoke to 75 degrees and try to run your PS2 game. If this doesn't work, then then it's likely your RSX and tokins have failed and need replacing. Please note, this is costly, only do this if your console has value, ie rare for example or has sentimental value to you. If not, just buy a new one!
UPDATE: It's also possible that the motherboard has warped and this has kinked the traces that communicate between the chips nessasery to boot PS2 games. As the console warms up, the motherboard contracts and this is enough to un-kink the traces allowing Ps2 games to boot. Although this is all theory is plausible as the RSX, EE chip, GS chip have all been replaced without fixing the issue.
As always, work smart and safe, that is why the area I'm working in is protected with foil tape. If you slip, it can save you a trace repair
Console will be available for sale on eBay, so keep an eye out for tge link, I will be posting this soon
This is all part of my frankenstian journey and I have to say I am pleased with the progress.
Before coming into this I had no BGA rework experience, so thanks to everyone that's left comments and given great advice along the way, I really couldn't do this without all the help.and support of my followers.
I have noticed a lot of people leaving comments are non subscribers, if that's you please hit the subscribe button, it will eventually really help me out, ad I'm sure my content will help you.
Enjoy the video!!!
In a nutshell this console never needed a frankenstian and simply needed the NEC tokins replacing. with the cost of a Frankenstein being around 300 pounds, it seems somewhat unfair to opt for the most expensive option which simply wasn't nessasery.
I will be offering this service myself, if I find that the RSX isn't responsible I won't perform the mod unless the customer insists on it. That's why all my frankenstians will be recorded and the footage will be given to the customer. I feel integrity in this business is key, I have always been open and transparent with my customers and will always continue to be.
Enjoy the video, and remember, if your getting a frankenstian ask to see the syscon log before the modification goes ahead. Check Wiki to translate the codes and if it's not an RSX failure, then ask to get the actual issue resolved, otherwise your console could end up like this one!
Remember , these consoles are rare things and PS3's most likely will need a de-lid and/or a frankenstian
In this recording, I show what I have learned with regards to lifting the RSX. it's an important part of the process as there is a real risk of delamination and popcorning the motherboard. I have disconnected that baking the motherboard most definitely helps, especially the ram on the RSX is prone to popping if. ot baked.
any comments are most welcome
Enjoy the video 👍
Having found a working profile to remove the RSX (this will be shown in my next video), it was time to learn how to reball the chip.
it wasn't easy, and this was my 10th attempt! Now I have the correct height setting for the stencil, it will be much easier in the future.
Enjoy the video
Welcome to the introduction of my frankenstian journey. I will be posting my progress over the coming weeks, so keep an eye out for my frankie videos!!
If you have technical knowledge that could help me, then please leave this information in the comments. And if you don't and you are simply following my journey, then words of support will motivate me to keep going and to never give up!
wish me luck 😀
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in this recording, we discuss ways to run PS2 games that are unplayable on these consoles or have annoying glitches. Custom firmware is required as well as some applications that are discussed in the tutorial.
using this simple method can be a life saver if your beloved PS2 game doesn't work correctly running on the stock emulation. Enjoy the video, and don't forget to leave a comment!
links
Review of A versus E revison
youtu.be/eM8wHtk0eDE?si=7WHWUUsoQOOKxxB4
My Ps2 configuration file and PS2 on super slim tutorial
youtu.be/Z7AcwofbwT0?si=jxaFiWhjIv3CRQDI
youtu.be/IVrLmLxt2Fg?si=F5LSGm08A_M9rtSb
Mr Mario's PS2 HEN video
youtu.be/T5MeNI7OAu4?si=yuUJx-yPK_Vh1Klb
Mystics Backwards compatible testing
youtu.be/kf-oYO5jo94?si=IFwemNO5mtk0HX5B
Brewoligy.com, select Homebrew and then select Multiman. No w expand Multiman and everything required will be there
store.brewology.com
So, I have come up with a tutorial that is informative and addresses a lot of the myths surrounding the de-lidding process. I have also evolved my technique so someone else could copy what I have done and do a successful de-lid themselves. This is aimed at a beginner or novice that wants to limit the risk and have a maximum chance of success.
please keep comments respectfull,
tools required.....
A hard, flat surface to work on.
Painters knife set
A rework station (get a cheap one for 20-30 pounds)
Sealant Remover
flux in a syringe
fine sand paper
Masking tape
Isopropyl alcohol
Cotton buds
A stop watch
Air duster
Thermal paste (I use liquid metal)
Old tooth brush
plenty of patience
I then noticed another sticker that simply said "40". some marker pen was present on the Sys on chip and on the bottom of the board was written 1022-102 which could possibly be an error code??
My hopes where confirmed when I looked at the serial number on the RSX IHS which indeed confirmed that this was a Frankenstian performed by Sony with a 40nm RSX!!!
Yes, I know this is going to be extremely controversial!! Many people will be saying,'Why do this??!!" The answer is not easy to explain however many highly respected figures in the PS3 Community have said that the 'rigidity" of the MB is extremely important to the life of the console. When you remove the IHS plates the tension on the MB changes which could lead to failure of many of the components including the RSX and CPU.
This means that the entire process could be counterproductive which is why I have now decided to put the IHS plates back on!
Get involved and leave your comments in the description!
please note that the video is created in the interests of education, if anyone has any tips to add please voice these in the comments section.
watch till the end as the results are unbelievable!! This highlights the benefits of a binned chip on a PS3!!
enjoy the video 😊
I tested the technique on junk boards, and this was me doing a delid on a working board using my new technique for the first time. it was a complete success so sit back and enjoy the recording.
I am also a tinkerer and love working on computers and games consoles. I decided to turn a side hustle into a business and started on a PS3 project. The PS3 gaming community is so vast that the interest for my refurbishments and customisations of these consoles was sky high. in fact, I haven't been able to move on to other projects as I have such a high demand for the work I do and the products that I sell. I originally set up my channel to help the customers I sell to. I have now decided to widen my audience so everyone can enjoy and learn from the content I put on YouTube. This is why I am now starting to edit my recordings so they are more enjoyable to watch.
In this recording, I do discover the console requires more attention, and after hours of diagnostics, I got to the bottom of what was causing the issue. Please note that when i start to assemble the console, there is no dust, what yiu can see is over spray from the white paint job! This was Tony's first successful de-lidding of both CPU and RSX, so I give it the 5 star treatment. I give some valuable additional information, so enjoy the recording and leave your comments in the description. Thanks for sending me the consolesTony, It was a pleasure to work on them 🙂
link to @tony359 original recording below.
youtu.be/9giDp6L6mRA
felix PS3 recording link below
youtu.be/I0UMG3iVYZI
Blu-ray drive re-marry
youtu.be/02iKsqK98Z8
Add config files for better compatibility
youtu.be/Z7AcwofbwT0
How to install PS2 games
youtu.be/k4l6dFm6bAw
You may have flashed 4.88 nofsm onto a 4.89 OFW system. The good news it's recoverable so please watch the recording for further information.
forever.me/bgtoolset
Sometimes, the console will boot but run badly and over a short period of time and begin to show system errors. This can be prevented by heating up the CPU and GPU, the thermal paste loosens, making the console easier to open and reducing the risk of a system error.
I have had people ask if they can heat the chips with hot air, either by using a hair dryer or using a rework station. Basically, don't do this. You would have to heat the heat spreaders by taking out the fan. You won't be heating the chips evenly, and you won't know how hot the chips are getting. This can have a detrimental effect on the console and defeating the object of what we are trying to achieve. By following the tutorial, you are heating the chips evenly as its heating them from the middle of the chip. also, you know the console is reaching safe temps, or if you're running custom firmware, you know exactly how hot they are getting.
Enjoy the video
work done to console over the two parts is as follows.
Diagnosis via webman and syscon dump.
1001, 1004, 2023 errors. These errors typically refer to a improper shut down and a south bridge error. South Bridge error is normally due to the thermal pad no longer transferring heat (2023) The other two errors could, on rare occasions be a cpu tokin error, this is diagnosed further in part two CPU temp running high, RSX is okay however new paste will improve the performance.
Dust and air dust all components.
clean all components with isopropyl alcohol.
New thermal pads throughout and thermal pads added to the NEC tokins.
De-lid of RSX and CPU, resistors protected with clear coat to prevent any shorts. Thermal tape added to prevent any liquid metal spilling out.
Artic silver 5 added to the heat spreaders and fixed to the heatsink. Liquid metal added to both die and the underside of both heat spreaders.
After further testing 2 tantalum capacitors are piggybacked on, one on the RSX tokin and one on the CPU tokin. Tests prove the 1001 error was caused by the failing CPU tokins, this is fixed by adding a 470uf 6.3v tantalum capacitor to the failing tokin.
TLOU would fail after 10 minutes, on camera after the caps where added it went on for over 20 minutes, further testing highlights it could run over 3 hours with no errors
Referbishment complete, temps have improved by over 15 degrees and no more shutdowns after playing high performance games.
I take no credit for this, this is down to the main man that created the toolset, the work around can be found at PSX place.
This isn't about using an alternative site, this is a way to actually access the toolset that's required to install CFW
Enjoy the recording and let me know how you get on!
The above no longer works, I'm sure it won't be long before ps3 xploit have a new webpage that hosts the bgtoolset. The only way to install a custom dash is now via a mirror site. I have tested one in particular and it has worked every time. Saying that bguerville has expressed there is a risk of bricking your system using a mirror site. So USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Only works if your console is on 4.88, so if your on a dash below this the update to 4.88. If your on 4.89 you will need to wait for the offical release of the bgtoolset
furever.me/bgtoolset
click on "Flash Memory Manager "
at the bottom click on "Flash Memory Patch
now select "Load Patch vi's HTTPS" (a bar will come up showing you the status of the download and validation) Once downloaded and verified click close.
Please note, You can't dump your nand on this mirror site
Click on "Flash Memory Patch" again, now select "Apply Loaded Patch"
select yes to Patch your console
reboot console and load 4.89 custom firmware from a fat32 formatted USB stick with the firmware prepared on it.
So by following the steps in the video below results in many people unable to sign in due to the PSN server not accepting there password.
youtu.be/Dt0ZahHCHk0
So its important to point out that you must have the latest version of webman and multiman installed to get to the point where you can attempt to put in your password, otherwise it just comes up with the message that an update is required.
I have discovered how to resolve this issue that so many people are having problems with!
(1) Sign into PSN using your phone or laptop.
(2) Go to settings (top right icon)
(3) Go to account information
(4) Go to top left icon (3 horizontal lines)
(5) select security (asks to confirm as it takes you to another page, select "Yes")
(6) Scroll down to the bottom of this page and select the "Generate or manage device setup passwords"
(7) Now use this password to sign into your
account on your PS3.
link below for the text file.
mega.nz/file/5P5ywaxA#ElS8n7VZ4SMBCJFZrGqp5tEoZx5e6z2TKu0LgXIG1Sw
we see the game load and then turn off when it's about to go into gameplay. If you get this issue it's highly likely to be a CPU related issue. It is well known that the cell processor is very reliable so any issues relating to the cell processor it's highly likely to be the chips that regulate the power. These chips are the NEC tokins, I scrape away some of the green coating to reveal the copper and add solder to create the ground (negative) for the tantalum capacitors. For the positive we use the rail that the tokins use as a little bit of this sticks out. 3 tantalum capacitors are used, two on the CPU and one on the RSX.
The link for part 2 of this video is below
youtu.be/8hZWU6JN10Y?si=iJgaUe8g4SRPcJGJ
You can ow watch me do a full detailed explanation on how to resolve this, link below
youtu.be/pDwh9bCEyGE?si=nFBtBFK44rKNSbOv
This is all done in real time so you can see the problems you may face. Enjoy the recording!
The liquid metal goes on the die and the underside of the heat spreader, the die has no aluminium in it, and neither does the heat spreader as its plated copper. Now, the heat sink is made from aluminium, so that's why on top of the copper plated heat spreader, we put MX4 thermal paste because this makes contact with the heatsink, which is aluminium.
So the CPU and GPU die have no aluminium.
The heat spreader is made from plated copper, NOT aluminium. So this has no aluminium in it, and this is all the liquid metal makes contact with.
So the conclusion is that it's perfectly safe and drops the consoles temperatures considerably.


