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“If they’re here to experience something new, they have to hide.”
What if the reason non-human intelligences (NHIs) stay hidden isn’t fear—but us? Whitley Strieber explains that if they revealed themselves, we’d abandon our own progress to chase theirs. Instead of innovating, we’d obsess over their technology, their abilities… and try to take it for ourselves.
But what if their real interest isn’t in tech—but in us? In our unique experience of living in time?
🎧 Watch the full conversation on Cosmosis: youtu.be/s4IDqWGlWBU
#Aliens #UFOs #WhitleyStrieber #Cosmosis #Contact #Communion #UAP #Consciousness
“If they’re here to experience something new, they have to hide.”
What if the reason non-human intelligences (NHIs) stay hidden isn’t fear—but us? Whitley Strieber explains that if they revealed themselves, we’d abandon our own progress to chase theirs. Instead of innovating, we’d obsess over their technology, their abilities… and try to take it for ourselves.
But what if their real interest isn’t in tech—but in us? In our unique experience of living in time?
🎧 Watch the full conversation on Cosmosis: youtu.be/s4IDqWGlWBU
#Aliens #UFOs #WhitleyStrieber #Cosmosis #Contact #Communion #UAP #Consciousness
![[UFO Rabbit Hole] Interview w/ Michael Masters: The Extratempestrial Model & The Future Human Past](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yryV6kwo7AA/mqdefault.jpg "[UFO Rabbit Hole] Interview w/ Michael Masters: The Extratempestrial Model & The Future Human Past
Today, we’re circling back to an idea that we visited in one of the earliest episodes of the podcast—the extratempestrial model. Sometimes also referred to as the future human hypothesis, the extratempestrial model is the idea that the UFOs phenomenon might represent advanced humans and human descendents who are traveling here from another point in time.
I’ll admit to struggling with this idea at first. Time travel has always seemed a little too clunky and a little too hokey to be taken seriously. But as so often happens on this trip down the rabbit hole, the more I learned and the more my perspective began to swell and shift to accommodate the strange new realities I was exploring, the more what once seemed like a kind of crazy idea to me suddenly started to make a heck of a lot of sense. And I found that many of my objections had more to do with the limitations of my knowledge than the limitations of the extratempestrial model.
So I wanted to come back around to this idea, because there is a lot there to dig into, most of which didn’t make it into the initial episode. And there are some new and updated ideas that I think are really valuable in understanding the complexities of the phenomenon. And there’s no better way to take a deep dive into this topic than with one of the people who literally wrote the book on the extratempestrial model—Dr. Michael P. Masters.
Michael Masters is a professor of biological anthropology at Montana Technological University. He specializes in human evolution, osteology, and anatomical sciences. Dr. Master’s work related to the phenomenon explores the potential evolutionary trajectories of humankind, linking anthropological theory to hypotheses about extraterrestrial life. He is the author of several books on the topic including Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon, The Extratempestrial Model, and his latest, a satirical science fiction novel called, Revelation: The Future Human Past.
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MUSIC
Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMPS
00:30 - Introduction
07:20 - What Is The Extratempestrial Model?
09:50 - The Extratempestrial Model & The Interdimensional Hypothesis
11:29 - The Social & Biological Trends That Hint At The Extratempestrial Model
16:32 - Technology & The “Other”
20:48 - Technological Variability In Humans
21:02 - The Communication Problem
25:38 - How Technology Is Shaped By Biology
28:52 - Exotic Bipedal Beings
32:17 - Could Humanoid Beings Be The Result of Biomimicry?
37:08 - Are UFOs Time Machines?
43:50 - The Nimitz Incident
47:18 - Rethinking The Impossible
49:57 - The Block Universe
59:02 - Revelation: The Future Human Past")
