Uploaded February 2022 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

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Take it from an astronaut, space shouldn’t just be a rich boys’ playground. In this week’s podcast, Jon talks to Dr. Mae Jemison, the first Black woman to travel to space, about why we need to make interstellar travel accessible for everyone, what it will take to get there, and most importantly, why Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk will never be able to flee earth in an escape pod.


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