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How long can the MAGA faithful control the GOP? Will Trumpism last long after the big man is gone—or will it not even make it to the end of this term?
Guest: Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark, author of “How to Eat an Elephant: One Voter at a Time.”
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How long can the MAGA faithful control the GOP? Will Trumpism last long after the big man is gone—or will it not even make it to the end of this term?
Guest: Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark, author of “How to Eat an Elephant: One Voter at a Time.”
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![The Olympic Curler Who Called Out Trump
“I understand why some of the male hockey players wanted to go [to the State of the Union]. It doesn’t mean you’re MAGA or Trump or whatever … but there should have been comments the next day.”
U.S. curler Rich Ruohonen made headlines for his strong words about the Trump administration and ICE’s actions in his home state of Minnesota. The 2026 Olympian—who just made history as the oldest American athlete to ever compete in the Winter Games—spoke with Mary Harris, host of Slate’s What Next podcast, about his public statements, the backlash female athletes have to face for simply existing, and his thoughts about the U.S. men’s hockey team at the State of the Union.
Listen to the full interview now on What Next.
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