Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Zuby is joined by CEO of Command Your Brand and creator of The Roman Pattern, Jeremy Ryan Slate. Jeremy shares the parallels between the fall of the Roman Empire and the current trajectory of the United States and the West. From currency debasement and open borders to feminisation and gender confusion, he traces all back to first-century Rome. The conversation explores what happens when a civilisation stops producing serious leaders, the double-edged sword of modern technology, why democracy incentivises short-termism, and whether America can escape the same fate that ended a thousand-year civilisation.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Trailer
(00:55) Introduction
(02:10) What is the Roman Pattern?
(03:22) Republic vs Empire — the crucial difference
(05:12) The Alexander the Great obsession
(08:12) Why every man is thinking about Rome
(10:23) The feminisation of society
(13:15) Gender fluidity in ancient Rome
(19:31) Modern America mirrors late Rome
(25:09) Currency debasement — then and now
(29:14) What comes after 250 years?
(33:29) Censorship, Elon & the media war
(35:25) Rome with smartphones — a thought experiment
(36:41) Technology's power to enslave and liberate
(43:17) Why can't we get decent leaders?
(45:57) The "Hollywood for ugly people" problem
(49:16) The money problem in politics
(53:42) How the USA can avoid Rome's fate
(55:44) Democracy's short-termism problem
(01:04:21) Three policies if Zuby were king
(01:05:29) Where to find Jeremy online
Follow Jeremy Ryan Slate: https://x.com/jeremyryanslate
Follow Zuby: https://linktr.ee/zubymusic
Subscribe to 'Real Talk with Zuby' on Apple Podcasts or Spotify: fanlink.tv/zubypodcast
Zuby is joined by CEO of Command Your Brand and creator of The Roman Pattern, Jeremy Ryan Slate. Jeremy shares the parallels between the fall of the Roman Empire and the current trajectory of the United States and the West. From currency debasement and open borders to feminisation and gender confusion, he traces all back to first-century Rome. The conversation explores what happens when a civilisation stops producing serious leaders, the double-edged sword of modern technology, why democracy incentivises short-termism, and whether America can escape the same fate that ended a thousand-year civilisation.
Sponsored by: Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at veritasalaska.com
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Trailer
(00:55) Introduction
(02:10) What is the Roman Pattern?
(03:22) Republic vs Empire — the crucial difference
(05:12) The Alexander the Great obsession
(08:12) Why every man is thinking about Rome
(10:23) The feminisation of society
(13:15) Gender fluidity in ancient Rome
(19:31) Modern America mirrors late Rome
(25:09) Currency debasement — then and now
(29:14) What comes after 250 years?
(33:29) Censorship, Elon & the media war
(35:25) Rome with smartphones — a thought experiment
(36:41) Technology's power to enslave and liberate
(43:17) Why can't we get decent leaders?
(45:57) The "Hollywood for ugly people" problem
(49:16) The money problem in politics
(53:42) How the USA can avoid Rome's fate
(55:44) Democracy's short-termism problem
(01:04:21) Three policies if Zuby were king
(01:05:29) Where to find Jeremy online
Follow Jeremy Ryan Slate: https://x.com/jeremyryanslate
Follow Zuby: https://linktr.ee/zubymusic
Subscribe to 'Real Talk with Zuby' on Apple Podcasts or Spotify: fanlink.tv/zubypodcast
