John E. Mack
Breaking the Taboo: Reviving academic UAP, abduction, and experiencer research
updated
"In the focus on the material realm to the exclusion of the subtle realms, we have virtually rid the cosmos of nature, rid nature of spirit and, in a sense, denied the existence of all life other than that which is physically observable here on Earth."
1995.09.16 International Association for New Science Conference, Fort Collins CO
A paper developed from this presentation is available on the JEMI website.
Errata: In this recording, Dr Mack misspeaks the term "anthropocentric humanism" as "anthropomorphic humanism". A revised audio recording with the error corrected is available on the JEMI website. This YouTube video contains the original error.
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An alien message to save planet earth? It may sound like science fiction, but after countless interviews with abductees, Dr. Mack is convinced that aliens do exist. "What I try to get across is listen to it. Take it seriously."
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Guests:
John E. Mack, M.D. - psychiatrist
Sally Mack, LICSW - licensed social worker
Steven J. Zeitlin, Ph.D. - clinical psychologist
Hosts:
Joseph Dreyfus, M.D.
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The nonviolent protest at the Nevada Test Site was known as the American Peace Test, and was held May 31-June 2, 1986. Carl Sagan was the keynote speaker.
For historical context: This is a low-budget community access cable television program that was shown in Newton, Cape Cod, and other parts of Massachusetts.
Mack also discusses the psychological causes of the nuclear arms race, the use of violence between nations and peoples, the reasons why a person may become a psychiatrist, and the origins of his own career in psychiatry.
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See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_hypothesis
— Charles Grodin, 1935-2021
From an interview program the acclaimed actor hosted on CNBC, March 18, 1997.
About the speakers:
John E. Mack, M.D., was professor of psychiatry at the Cambridge Hospital, Harvard Medical School; a Pulitzer Prize-winner for his biography of T.E. Lawrence, A Prince of Our Disorder; and co-author of a dozen other books and more than 150 scholarly articles. His first book about how alien encounters affect people was Abduction. At the time of this event he had not yet begun to write his second book on the subject, Passport to the Cosmos.
Author and artist Budd Hopkins investigated UFO abduction reports for more than twenty years. His first two books on the subject of alien encounters were Missing Time and Intruders. As a painter and sculptor, Mr. Hopkins received numerous awards; his work has been exhibited worldwide, including at the Whitney Museum in New York.
Moderator Christopher Lydon, at the time of this event, was host of the award-winning current-events talk show The Connection, broadcast from Boston’s NPR affiliate. Mr. Lydon spent more than thirty years in print, television, and radio journalism, contributing to The New York Times, The Economist, The Boston Globe, The Atlantic Monthly, and Columbia Journalism Review.
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Often dismissed by the scientific community, “experiencers” of alien abductions found a sympathetic ear in Dr. John Mack (1929–2004), a respected psychiatrist at Harvard University. Mack risked his career and reputation to lend credence to his patients’ stories of being taken against their will by nonhuman beings. When Mack dared to suggest that experiencers showed no signs of mental illness or dishonesty, he faced criticism, ridicule, and an investigation at Harvard that was ironically termed not “an inquisition.”
Ralph Blumenthal was an award-winning reporter for the New York Times. He coauthored the Times article in 2017 that broke the news of a secret Pentagon unit investigating UFOs, and he is the author of four nonfiction books including Miracle at Sing Sing: How One Man Transformed the Lives of America’s Most Dangerous Prisoners. A distinguished lecturer at Baruch College, he lives in New York City.
The Believer was independently written; the book is not endorsed by, affiliated with, authorized, or sponsored by the John E Mack Institute.
The first two experiencers are not ones that Dr Mack personally worked with; one that he wrote about, Dave Jones, appears later in the program. Also featured is CSICOP skeptic Dr. Barry Beyerstein, and (by phone) skeptic Dr. William P Cone. Audience members asking questions include author Dr. Thomas Beck.
Also appearing is an experiencer using the name Bill (possibly a local experiencer; it does not appear that he knew Dr Mack), MUFON consultant Ron Westrum, and via phone, professor of sociology Marcello Truzzi.
Originally aired April 26, 1994
Note: The final 15 minutes of this program are not available; the broadcast was interrupted by an ABC News special report on the death of former President Richard Nixon.
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We are aware that Dr. Pritchard later became discouraged about the lack of evidence for alien encounters, but in this 1995 interview he is quite excited by what the conference accomplished.
Also on the program is author CDB Bryan, who attended the conference, and social worker John Carpenter.
Please note that Alien Discussions (the conference proceedings) is no longer available from the address that is announced on the program. Check Amazon.
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"I don't know how much you've hung out with Buddhists. I guess the Zen dimension of Buddhism is probably the most, sort of typical? Tibetan Buddhism isn't quite as spooky as Zen Buddhism, but it's still Buddhism.
Buddhists don't tell you directly what they think. They talk in paradoxes and they let you talk. They tell stories, and you get talking more, and you find out what they think by what you end up thinking. But they never come right out and say this is this and that is that and here's my opinion.
So what we came to, I think, is - and this is me, of course, projecting onto the conference. But what I came to is that this is a phenomenon peculiarly structured to bust up the Western way of looking at things. It has a kind of tailor-made quality about it to challenge traditional Western ways of thinking - which I think His Holiness, without ever quite saying so, regarded as all to the good.
He didn't actually say this is good that you're thinking this way, but he seemed very happy that this small band of Westerners were coming with these tales of beings that shouldn't be there.
...That should not be there according to the Western world we live in. So it was very affirming for those of us that are struggling with this."
- John E. Mack, M.D.
Brookline MA, June 1, 1992
(excerpt from an unreleased interview)
Addendum: Although few details of the April 1992 meeting are known, in 1997 Arthur Zajonc and five leading scientists and philosophers (not the same people as in 1992) interviewed the Dalai Lama on the nature of the cosmos from the Buddhist perspective. Part of their discussion touched on the subject of alien encounters. This was subsequently published in The New Physics and Cosmology: Dialogues with the Dalai Lama (2004).
Zajonc wrote, "According to Eastern thought, shared by both Hindus and Buddhists, in addition to physical beings that live within the so-called desire realm or sensual realm, there is also a whole range of sentient beings living in a subtle form realm which is not grossly physical. They are born, they live, they die, but they don't have gross physical bodies. Beyond that there is also a formless realm ... Moreover, there is an _interpenetration_ of these realms." [emphasis ours]. "...the fascination with extraterrestrial life is an image of weird extraterrestrial beings coming into contact with human beings on earth. But from the Buddhist point of view, given the understanding that there are sentient beings in different realms of existence even within this world system, there are probably more explanations that could account for phenomena which otherwise would be considered mysterious. Even though there's no totally compelling scientific evidence of aliens coming to planet Earth, there are many individuals who have had very anomalous experiences, people who seem in every other way sane. There doesn't seem any way to account for that within the standard scientific paradigm, but the Buddhists might have an easier time taking these people seriously. There are all kinds of possibilities." (Zajonc, 2004, p. 98-99)
Recorded October 25, 2002 at the International Conference on Altered States of Consciousness, Albuquerque, NM.
The original synopsis of the lecture: "UFO encounters, near death experiences, shamanic journeys, and spontaneous religious epiphanies all have the power to bring about a significant transformation of consciousness. By this is meant that the experiencers’ worldview, as internalized in the course of their upbringing and inculcation in this culture, is shattered. This, in turn, results in the potential opening of heart and spirit to a wider appreciation of reality and a (re)connection to realms of the sacred and divine. In this lecture I will discuss how this process occurs in specific cases, and its implications for social and cultural change."
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Content: © 2002 John E. Mack, M.D.
Nick Pope, who spoke at the same event, wrote a summary of Mack's presentation: "Mack wondered why it was, given the volume of data that has been amassed, that the abduction phenomenon wasn’t a bigger story than it is. He saw evidence of an individual and collective cultural resistance to the idea, caused by a 'Western material worldview'. He commented on the arrogance of this belief system, pointing out that no previous culture has ever put itself at the peak of the intelligence hierarchy in the cosmos. Mack explained that given this worldview, alien abductions would represent 'a Narcissistic blow of unimaginable proportions', and went on to say that the ego would do anything to defend itself against such an attack. This defense takes the form of denial. Mack criticized the level of personal attacks within ufology, and also expressed the interesting view that researchers should not be afraid to inject a little humour into their work. He then proceeded to list a hilarious 'top ten reasons why you suspect you’ve been abducted by aliens', which had the audience (abductees included) in fits of laughter. These ranged from 'you went to sleep in Manhattan and woke up in a cornfield in Illinois' through to 'you just realized you’ve accumulated thirty billion frequent flier miles'. One of Mack’s most interesting points was when he asked what happens when reliable witnesses aren’t believed. Citing the examples of parent/child and teacher/student relationships, Mack speculated that the whole basis of our social structure would be in danger of collapse if trust is absent from these most fundamental relationships. This thought-provoking comment certainly poses some interesting questions with regard to the consistent, detailed and cross-cultural testimony of thousands of abductees from all around the world."
This presentation has been lightly edited, primarily to smooth over the use of PowerPoint slides - though most of the laughter from the "Top 10 Signs You've Been Abducted By Aliens" slides was retained; see below for what may have been that Top 10 list (the list below comes from an event held earlier in November 1999; it may have been rewritten for the Intruders Foundation event):
10. You went to sleep in Manhattan and woke up in a corn field in Illinois.
9. You always thought My Favorite Martian was the most sophisticated show on TV.
8. Hybrid roses bring out your maternal instincts.
7. Someone has installed runway lights in your driveway.
6. The AT&T campaign “Reach out and touch someone" makes you break out in a cold sweat.
5. You're convinced that Judy Garland was referring to the Pleiades when she sang "Somewhere Over the Rainbow"
4. You secretly hope Al Gore will choose Mulder as his Vice President.
3. You would vote Republican if George W. Bush would put Scully on the ticket.
2. Your colonoscopy exam seemed eerily familiar.
And the number one reason why you suspect you've been abducted by aliens:
1. You just realized you've accumulated 30 billion frequent flier miles.
Recording: © 2000 Intruders Foundation; used by kind permission
Content: © 2000 John E. Mack, M.D.
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A note: Unresolvable sync issues precluded presenting this video recording as a video; it is therefore presented as audio-only.
Producer: John White
Videographer: Ron Gagliardi
Recording: © 1993 John White
Content: © 1993 John E. Mack, M.D.
Includes discussion of Dr. Mack's 1994 book Abduction and his thoughts on the subtle nature of the phenomenon.
by Robert S. McNamara, former Secretary of Defense and former President of the World Bank
Mr. McNamara, one of the architects of the strategic policy that created the sea, land, and air nuclear triad in the 1960s, asks us to imagine a world no longer dominated by the threat of a face-off between East and West (US and USSR) and urges us to act on such a vision.
This May 15, 1989 presentation was made in the context of Mikhail Gorbachev's initiatives to free the Eastern bloc nations and diminish the rivalry between the USSR and the US (for which Gorbachev was later awarded the Nobel Peace Prize). This presentation was held six months before Gorbachev's reforms enabled the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Presented by the Center for Psychological Studies in the Nuclear Age (founded by Harvard professor of psychiatry John E. Mack, M.D.) at the Sanders Theatre, Harvard University, Cambridge MA, May 15, 1989.
Introduced by John E. Mack, M.D.
This audio recording includes Mr. McNamara's lecture and Q&A.
by Eugene Taylor, Ph.D.
Introduced by John E. Mack, M.D.
This presentation was held by Dr. John Mack's Program for Extraordinary Experience Research (PEER) on March 21, 1995 at the Macht Auditorium, Cambridge Hospital, Cambridge, MA.
William James was a 19th century philosopher and psychologist best known for The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature.
Eugene Irvine Taylor, Ph.D. (1946-2013) was a historian of psychology and an internationally renowned scholar on the life and work of William James. Taylor was the author of, among other works, William James on Exceptional Mental States and William James on Consciousness Beyond the Margins. He was a Lecturer on Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, the official William James Lecturer at Harvard Divinity School, and a 20-year member of the Executive Faculty at Saybrook Graduate School and Research Institute. He was a graduate of Southern Methodist University, Harvard Divinity School, and earned his Ph.D. at Boston University. He also founded the Harvard Aikido Club.
Host John E. Mack, M.D. (1929-2004) was a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. He authored two books about human transformation from alien encounters: Abduction, and Passport to the Cosmos.
[Optionally, skip ahead to 31:34 to pass over the description of William James' background. Soon after, you will hear Dr. Taylor referring to "alternative realities"; Taylor is not referring to parallel universes but rather to alternative worldviews.]
John E. Mack, M.D. (1929-2004) was a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.
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Transferred from VHS by Maria Talcott.
Toward a Spiritual Point of View in Psychoanalysis
Presentation by John E. Mack, M.D.
1991.01.23 Boston University Institute for Philosophy and Religion, lecture series On Selfhood
A paper developed from this talk, "Psychoanalysis and the Self: Toward a Spiritual Point of View", was published in Boston University Studies in Philosophy & Religion Vol. 13, Selves, People, and Persons: What Does it Mean to Be a Self?, Ed. L.S. Rouner, Univ. of Notre Dame Press, Notre Dame, Indiana. 1992, pp 169-186.
"In the focus on the material realm to the exclusion of the subtle realms, we have virtually rid the cosmos of nature, rid nature of spirit and, in a sense, denied the existence of all life other than that which is physically observable here on Earth."
1995.09.16 International Association for New Science Conference, Fort Collins CO
A paper developed from this presentation is available on the JEMI website.
Errata: In this recording, Dr Mack misspeaks the term "anthropocentric humanism" as "anthropomorphic humanism". A revised audio recording with the error corrected is available on the JEMI website. This YouTube video contains the original error.


