Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
Your relationship with pain probably goes one of the two ways…
Most people take the conventional route and try to obliterate it with drugs and extreme treatments they may not need (that can hurt them even more than the pain itself). In many cases, their relationship with pain defines who they are.
Paul and senior CHEK instructor Leigh Brandon, author of Beyond the Pain: A Whole-Person Approach to Understanding Pain and Participating in Recovery ( amzn.to/4zHGEoi ), explore a very different and holistic relationship with pain, one that doesn’t treat it like an enemy but a vital source of information about your body this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Leigh and his work at his website. Find him on social media via Instagram ( instagram.com/beyondthepainpod ), Twitter/X ( https://x.com/leighbrandon ) and TikTok ( tiktok.com/@beyondthepainpodcast ). Check out Leigh’s podcast, Beyond the Pain, on YouTube ( youtube.com/@beyondthepainpodcast ), Apple Podcasts ( podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/beyond-the-pain/id1636884725 ) and wherever you listen to them. Read the first chapter of Beyond the Pain at bodychek.co.uk/book-waitlist .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Download Leigh’s paper, The Load Capacity Hierarchy Model of Chronic Pain: A Systems Based Framework for Understanding Pain and Guiding Clinical Practice ( drive.google.com/file/d/1y7fMwWfTEu8TPuJ9W6RG1_eheTfg6Fct/view ), today!
Listen to Paul's conversation with Leigh Brandon and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/416-stop-treating-pain-like-the-enemy-with-leigh-brandon or watch the entire episode on YouTube at youtu.be/qNRkLjMwwsk?si=RDjd9JzfD0nFKqga
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Your relationship with pain probably goes one of the two ways…
Most people take the conventional route and try to obliterate it with drugs and extreme treatments they may not need (that can hurt them even more than the pain itself). In many cases, their relationship with pain defines who they are.
Paul and senior CHEK instructor Leigh Brandon, author of Beyond the Pain: A Whole-Person Approach to Understanding Pain and Participating in Recovery ( amzn.to/4zHGEoi ), explore a very different and holistic relationship with pain, one that doesn’t treat it like an enemy but a vital source of information about your body this week on Spirit Gym.
Learn more about Leigh and his work at his website. Find him on social media via Instagram ( instagram.com/beyondthepainpod ), Twitter/X ( https://x.com/leighbrandon ) and TikTok ( tiktok.com/@beyondthepainpodcast ). Check out Leigh’s podcast, Beyond the Pain, on YouTube ( youtube.com/@beyondthepainpodcast ), Apple Podcasts ( podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/beyond-the-pain/id1636884725 ) and wherever you listen to them. Read the first chapter of Beyond the Pain at bodychek.co.uk/book-waitlist .
For Spirit Gym listeners: Download Leigh’s paper, The Load Capacity Hierarchy Model of Chronic Pain: A Systems Based Framework for Understanding Pain and Guiding Clinical Practice ( drive.google.com/file/d/1y7fMwWfTEu8TPuJ9W6RG1_eheTfg6Fct/view ), today!
Listen to Paul's conversation with Leigh Brandon and check out the show notes page on our Spirit Gym website at paulchek.com/blog/podcast-episodes/416-stop-treating-pain-like-the-enemy-with-leigh-brandon or watch the entire episode on YouTube at youtu.be/qNRkLjMwwsk?si=RDjd9JzfD0nFKqga
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