Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Ben Woodruff, biologist and researcher at Skinwalker Ranch, joins me to discuss what really happens behind the scenes—and what never makes it onto television.
In this wide-ranging interview, Ben talks about his own UFO sighting, how he became involved with the ranch, and the difference between real scientific investigation and what viewers see on TV. We also get into reports of strange biological effects on animals, unexplained activity on the property, and the challenges of working under NDAs when some of the most compelling data cannot yet be shared publicly.
Ben also discusses a remarkable incident involving one of his trained falcons, observations of unusual animal behaviour, and why some of the most interesting findings on the ranch are not always the most obvious ones.
This is a grounded but fascinating conversation about evidence, interpretation, and the ongoing mystery surrounding Skinwalker Ranch.
Check out Ben's work
youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry
jhutchingsmuseum.com
Timestamps
00:00 Chilling Ranch Encounters (Cold Open)
00:53 Welcome + Introducing Ben Woodruff
02:36 From Biologist to Falconer
05:53 Childhood UFO Sighting
10:09 Why He Stayed Open-Minded
11:29 What He Knew About Skinwalker Ranch
16:34 How He Joined the Ranch Team
18:50 The Feeling of Crossing the Gate
21:00 Strange Animal Behaviour Begins
22:38 First Night High Strangeness
26:12 Hearing Voices on the Ranch
28:10 Early Experiments and Real Danger
31:45 Science vs The TV Show
36:17 The Cattle Case That Shocked Him
41:34 NDA Frustrations and Hidden Findings
45:27 Falcon Flies Into a “Portal”
48:19 Animal Anomalies and the Ranch “Dome”
54:04 Who’s Really in Control?
59:58 What Is a Portal, Really?
01:09:22 Creatures, Cryptids and Ice Age Animals
01:14:59 What Physical Evidence Exists?
01:19:10 When UFOs Become Routine
01:28:29 Cattle Mutilation Theories
01:37:25 Dire Wolves, DNA and the Black Jaguar
01:52:24 Skeptics, Bias and Misidentifications
02:02:34 Disclosure, Bigfoot and Final Thoughts
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Ben Woodruff, biologist and researcher at Skinwalker Ranch, joins me to discuss what really happens behind the scenes—and what never makes it onto television.
In this wide-ranging interview, Ben talks about his own UFO sighting, how he became involved with the ranch, and the difference between real scientific investigation and what viewers see on TV. We also get into reports of strange biological effects on animals, unexplained activity on the property, and the challenges of working under NDAs when some of the most compelling data cannot yet be shared publicly.
Ben also discusses a remarkable incident involving one of his trained falcons, observations of unusual animal behaviour, and why some of the most interesting findings on the ranch are not always the most obvious ones.
This is a grounded but fascinating conversation about evidence, interpretation, and the ongoing mystery surrounding Skinwalker Ranch.
Check out Ben's work
youtube.com/@benwoodrufffalconry
jhutchingsmuseum.com
Timestamps
00:00 Chilling Ranch Encounters (Cold Open)
00:53 Welcome + Introducing Ben Woodruff
02:36 From Biologist to Falconer
05:53 Childhood UFO Sighting
10:09 Why He Stayed Open-Minded
11:29 What He Knew About Skinwalker Ranch
16:34 How He Joined the Ranch Team
18:50 The Feeling of Crossing the Gate
21:00 Strange Animal Behaviour Begins
22:38 First Night High Strangeness
26:12 Hearing Voices on the Ranch
28:10 Early Experiments and Real Danger
31:45 Science vs The TV Show
36:17 The Cattle Case That Shocked Him
41:34 NDA Frustrations and Hidden Findings
45:27 Falcon Flies Into a “Portal”
48:19 Animal Anomalies and the Ranch “Dome”
54:04 Who’s Really in Control?
59:58 What Is a Portal, Really?
01:09:22 Creatures, Cryptids and Ice Age Animals
01:14:59 What Physical Evidence Exists?
01:19:10 When UFOs Become Routine
01:28:29 Cattle Mutilation Theories
01:37:25 Dire Wolves, DNA and the Black Jaguar
01:52:24 Skeptics, Bias and Misidentifications
02:02:34 Disclosure, Bigfoot and Final Thoughts
🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
