Write the Vision MinistrySeveral notes on the I John 5:7 debate… 1) The busy and packed slides were for the benefit of the audience to reference due to the extensive information in support of I John 5:7. I expected criticism on this because even Dr. James White complained about the slide presentation when he debated Dr. Thomas Ross (KJV vs. LSB debate) due to the extensive information on the slides. Scholars don’t like new and old information that does not fit their narrative. Viewers will be able to go back, and freeze frame each slide to check all the source documentation. Our intended audience will learn a lot from the source documentation in small print, thus the purpose for the packed slides was not intended to please the critics or the scholars, but rather for those that actually care about the evidence. Information rather than format is our priority for those seeking the truth, we care not about debate points. 2) The Q&A I had for James Snapp involved some very important slides with much of his so-called manuscript evidence against I John 5:7, but due to technical difficulties I was not able to ask very valuable questions for the slides which were necessary to view the manuscripts. These questions along with some of the manuscript evidence will soon be presented online. 3) I heard one criticism on the internal evidence for I John 5:7. We interpret Scripture ‘Precept upon precept, line upon line, here a Scripture and there a Scripture’ according to Isaiah 28:9-13. The spirit, and the water, and the blood’ in I John 5:8 clearly represents Christ’s earthly witness on earth, and we reject any mystical interpretation of this verse representing the Godhead in I John 5:7, for the ‘Three heavenly witness’ were already mentioned within the context of verse 7, not verse 8 which switched to the ‘earthly witnesses’ of Christ’s ministry of the Holy Spirit. Also, John’s terminology of the ‘record’ is very consistent within the full context of Scripture showing a cohesion with I John 5:7 and this unique wording by John is not found in Matthew, Mark, or Luke’s Gospel’s. 4) Our opponent is ‘Thou shalt use the Greek alone,’ and he completely let all the early Latin evidence for the verse go right over his head with the blinders on. We have Latin manuscript and church father witness even earlier then their 4th century Greek witnesses against the verse (of which have never been chemically date tested as truly being 4th century). Mike Ferrando asked our opponent, ‘where did the Latin come from’? of which our opponent can only revert to ‘it was made up’ without any names of scribes, dates, locations, or historical documentation as evidence. All the scholars have is pure speculation, thus the need to reject the Latin evidence (and church father witnesses) by any means. We even presented pre-Erasmus evidence of earlier Greek evidence for I John 5:7, but as the audience will soon learn, the evidence in the Greek and the Latin for I John 5:7 does not matter either, for the scholars will tell us which evidence is relevant. Scholars reject any notion that God is quite able to preserve a correct reading from the Latin when and where Greek corruptions occurred. Basically, they reject any providential work of God in using the Latin for I John 5:7 but will claim such preservation for other verses when it suits their purpose, showing their lack of consistency. 5) Our opponent thinks ‘faith’ is arbitrary. This has a future eschatological connection as to how God is going to settle the Bible translation issue with the required ‘faith’ He is looking for in this end-time (Luke 18:8). The ‘faith’ and ‘providential’ aspect of this issue is the ‘Achilles heel’ of modern scholarship and we believe the Lord will soon expose this for all the world to see. FAITH IN GOD’S PRESERVED WORD IS NOT AN OPTIONAL REQUIRMENT IN SCRIPTURE! 6) Our opponent admitted he did not do his own investigation into his list of Greek manuscripts against I John 5:7 of which Mike and I (that have busy lives also) have started along with some oversea translations, and we are finding holes with their evidence. Thus, the call for non-biased independent Greek paleographers to come forward for a much-needed systematic re-examination of the manuscripts. 7) For the Christian in the pew that may not see the importance to debate over one verse of Scripture, we can tell you that in due time the importance of what we are doing will be better understood. Mike and I presented less than 10% of the evidence that we have for I John 5:7 and there is much more information to come out. This is a spiritual issue of which faith and discernment is required for we are talking about a book authored and inspired by the Holy Ghost. There are serious warnings in Scripture about taking away from any of God’s Word’s (Rev 22:19), and we pray we will all be as Samuel was, for “the Lord was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground” (I Samuel 3:19) KJV. Stay tuned my friends, there is much more to come.
The Long Awaited I John 5:7 Debate! Mike Hollner & Mike Ferrando vs James Snapp, Jr.Write the Vision Ministry2024-04-22 | Several notes on the I John 5:7 debate… 1) The busy and packed slides were for the benefit of the audience to reference due to the extensive information in support of I John 5:7. I expected criticism on this because even Dr. James White complained about the slide presentation when he debated Dr. Thomas Ross (KJV vs. LSB debate) due to the extensive information on the slides. Scholars don’t like new and old information that does not fit their narrative. Viewers will be able to go back, and freeze frame each slide to check all the source documentation. Our intended audience will learn a lot from the source documentation in small print, thus the purpose for the packed slides was not intended to please the critics or the scholars, but rather for those that actually care about the evidence. Information rather than format is our priority for those seeking the truth, we care not about debate points. 2) The Q&A I had for James Snapp involved some very important slides with much of his so-called manuscript evidence against I John 5:7, but due to technical difficulties I was not able to ask very valuable questions for the slides which were necessary to view the manuscripts. These questions along with some of the manuscript evidence will soon be presented online. 3) I heard one criticism on the internal evidence for I John 5:7. We interpret Scripture ‘Precept upon precept, line upon line, here a Scripture and there a Scripture’ according to Isaiah 28:9-13. The spirit, and the water, and the blood’ in I John 5:8 clearly represents Christ’s earthly witness on earth, and we reject any mystical interpretation of this verse representing the Godhead in I John 5:7, for the ‘Three heavenly witness’ were already mentioned within the context of verse 7, not verse 8 which switched to the ‘earthly witnesses’ of Christ’s ministry of the Holy Spirit. Also, John’s terminology of the ‘record’ is very consistent within the full context of Scripture showing a cohesion with I John 5:7 and this unique wording by John is not found in Matthew, Mark, or Luke’s Gospel’s. 4) Our opponent is ‘Thou shalt use the Greek alone,’ and he completely let all the early Latin evidence for the verse go right over his head with the blinders on. We have Latin manuscript and church father witness even earlier then their 4th century Greek witnesses against the verse (of which have never been chemically date tested as truly being 4th century). Mike Ferrando asked our opponent, ‘where did the Latin come from’? of which our opponent can only revert to ‘it was made up’ without any names of scribes, dates, locations, or historical documentation as evidence. All the scholars have is pure speculation, thus the need to reject the Latin evidence (and church father witnesses) by any means. We even presented pre-Erasmus evidence of earlier Greek evidence for I John 5:7, but as the audience will soon learn, the evidence in the Greek and the Latin for I John 5:7 does not matter either, for the scholars will tell us which evidence is relevant. Scholars reject any notion that God is quite able to preserve a correct reading from the Latin when and where Greek corruptions occurred. Basically, they reject any providential work of God in using the Latin for I John 5:7 but will claim such preservation for other verses when it suits their purpose, showing their lack of consistency. 5) Our opponent thinks ‘faith’ is arbitrary. This has a future eschatological connection as to how God is going to settle the Bible translation issue with the required ‘faith’ He is looking for in this end-time (Luke 18:8). The ‘faith’ and ‘providential’ aspect of this issue is the ‘Achilles heel’ of modern scholarship and we believe the Lord will soon expose this for all the world to see. FAITH IN GOD’S PRESERVED WORD IS NOT AN OPTIONAL REQUIRMENT IN SCRIPTURE! 6) Our opponent admitted he did not do his own investigation into his list of Greek manuscripts against I John 5:7 of which Mike and I (that have busy lives also) have started along with some oversea translations, and we are finding holes with their evidence. Thus, the call for non-biased independent Greek paleographers to come forward for a much-needed systematic re-examination of the manuscripts. 7) For the Christian in the pew that may not see the importance to debate over one verse of Scripture, we can tell you that in due time the importance of what we are doing will be better understood. Mike and I presented less than 10% of the evidence that we have for I John 5:7 and there is much more information to come out. This is a spiritual issue of which faith and discernment is required for we are talking about a book authored and inspired by the Holy Ghost. There are serious warnings in Scripture about taking away from any of God’s Word’s (Rev 22:19), and we pray we will all be as Samuel was, for “the Lord was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground” (I Samuel 3:19) KJV. Stay tuned my friends, there is much more to come.460 Ancient Bishops and their FACES against the modern critics!Write the Vision Ministry2026-06-17 | "THE 460 BISHOPS AT THE COUNCIL OF CARTHAGE" IN 484 A.D.
460 Ancient Bishops and their FACES against the modern critics! Let the modern critics look them in the eye and tell them they are good 'storytellers' as they detail their sufferings for Christ. The modern critics ought to be ashamed, and that they will be in this end-time when God's end-time message and vision begins to come to pass (Habakkuk 2:1-4) KJV.
We recently saw a video rebuttal against Mike Ferrando's debate testimony that he gave here at youtube.com/watch?v=1LTzWUpD8Jc
The most repulsive comment that we heard was that Mike Ferrando is an "interesting storyteller" as he represented the testimony of Victor of Vita (430-490 AD) and his eyewitness 'STORY' of the sufferings, exiles, persecutions, and deaths among 460 Bishops, as 'a great cloud of witnesses' for us today (Heb 12:1) as we lay aside the sin of 'unbelief' by receiving and believing their testimony they gave in defending the Trinity and I John 5:7.
Let us put some faces to these historically documented Christian men and women, we will tell their story, along with Victor of Vita, as we wait for the critics' apologies to these brothers and sisters in Christ who suffered and bled, along with many who died as martyrs many years ago before us.
This video is part 1 and part 2 is below with Mike Ferrando's own words and rebuttals against this historically documented account of Christian history and persecution at "The Council of Cartage" in 484 A.D.
It is one thing to debate over I John 5:7, but it is another thing altogether to show a lack of respect to our former Christian brothers and sisters in Christ who suffered and died for Christ. Is this yet another rotten fruit resulting from the rationalism of modern textual criticism? Fair question!
The seventh verse of John’s first epistle has without a doubt been the most contested verse of Scripture in church history. At present we have documented two titles to address this debate and have only scratched the surface in uncovering such a ‘great mountain of evidence’ for the verse. This attack started in the 1st and 2nd centuries due to the fact that it promotes sound doctrine and is a deterrent to heresies.
Journey with us on this Biblical expedition as we reveal more evidence for this great verse together. The Apostle John wrote under Holy Ghost Inspiration in the 1st century and said, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (I John 5:7) KJV. (The Comma Johanneum in Latin). Throughout the centuries this verse has been the cornerstone for the Christian theological debate over the doctrine of the Trinity from early church councils to even our own present day. I John 5:7 is the first verse attacked by modern heretics today.
This title examines the relationship between the well-known reformer Desiderius Erasmus (1466-1536) (2) and many of his prior scholars concerning this great verse in defending the sound doctrine of the Holy Trinity, the Triune God also known as “The Godhead” which is unique to the Authorized King James Bible ALONE of which ALL the modern versions of the Bible change in (Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; Colossians 2:9) KJV.
With that said, I would like to present my theory on why Erasmus omitted I John 5:7 in his first two editions starting with his first edition in 1516, and in his second edition of 1519. As is well known, he finally included I John 5:7 in his third edition in 1522 that according to him was based upon a 'single manuscript only.' As Travis points out, "In whatever light we view the conduct of Erasmus, it betrays, at least, great weakness. If he really possessed five ancient MSS, in which this verse had no place, and had thought it his duty to expel it, accordingly, from his two former editions, he ought not to have restored it, in his third edition, upon the authority of a single MS" (George Travis, Letters to Edward Gibbon, 1794 p. 9).
WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762WHY 1ST JOHN 5:7 IS GOD’S PRESERVED WORD with MIKE FERRANDO!Write the Vision Ministry2026-03-31 | Enjoy this presentation by Mike Ferrando who was hosted by the Praise I Am Podcast as he details the evidence for I John 5:7 throughout Church History! Mike Ferrando spent many years as a researcher at the Library of Congress and has written several dissertations on the history of I John 5:7. You can get a free download of his papers at kjvdebate.com/pdf.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Restoration is Coming! And so is Elijah!Write the Vision Ministry2025-12-26 | A more practical and down to earth explanation of what it means when the Bible says, "Elijah is Coming." We hope your blessed in allowing us to bring to your family a message of comfort and hope when the foundations of your own faith may be shaken or tested. Restoration is coming to heal families, churches, relationships, and most of all a unity over the true word of God. This is just the beginning of God's end-time message and vision for the Church of Jesus Christ in this end-time. Stay tuned.....Restoration is coming!
"And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha" II Kings 2:15 (KJV). When Scripture refers to Elijah coming again, it is the Spirit of Elijah in a man filled with Holy Ghost power and anointing, not the Old Testament physical man coming back in the flesh.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Eschatological CATEGORY ERRORS within Pre-Wrath & Post-Trib Camps!Write the Vision Ministry2025-06-04 | As we go forward discussing Eschatology within the pre-millennial camp we must eliminate and iron out the 'CATEGORY ERRORS' within the Pre-Wrath and Post-Trib camps. These are two entirely different positions! Watch and enjoy, and don't forget to subscribe.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Was 1 John 5:7 added to the Bible? Ft Mike Ferrando, Nick Sayers Truth is Christ Podcast #4Write the Vision Ministry2025-05-31 | Join us for a fun fellowship on 'The Truth is Christ' channel while discussing all things related to I John 5:7. Bible trivia, fellowship, and defending God's word, the King James Bible!
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762New Evidence for I John 5:7 in the Old Latin La Cava Bible!Write the Vision Ministry2025-05-14 | Mike Ferrando presents new evidence from his Latin translator overseas of Jerome's Prologue to the Episles also being the the Old Latin La Cava Bible along with Codex F (541-546) mentioning 'unfaithful translators' omitting I John 5:7.
Jerome says, "Just as these are properly understood and so translated faithfully by interpreters into Latin without leaving ambiguity for the readers nor [allowing] the variety of genres to conflict, especially in that text where we read the unity of the trinity is placed in the first letter of John, where much error has occurred at the hands of unfaithful translators contrary to the truth of faith, who have kept just the three words water, blood and spirit in this edition omitting mention of Father, Word and Spirit in which especially the catholic faith is strengthened and the unity of substance of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is attested.”
The evidence of Jerome's prologue being in the Old Latin La Cava on top of Codex F is a double witness to the 'unfaithful translators' back then in omitting I John 5:7 along with the La Cava mentioning Arius the heretic (256-336 AD) in the margins is solid evidence.
The La Cava is a representative of the Spanish type of Vulgate text, and presents a text derived from very Old Italian exemplars (aka the Old Latin/Italic before Jerome's time). This confirms our other evidence of God using the Old Latin in the preservation of His word due to early Greek corruptions. This evidence was presented in our previous video that you can watch that here at youtube.com/watch?v=NG6LN-Hfrko
This is an incredible witness to I John 5:7 with Arius (250-336 AD) being mentioned in the margins. Now we have Jerome’s prologue in it also, finally translated and confirmed by Mike Ferrando!
And regarding the so-called list of 500 against I John 5:7, if we are proven wrong in one or more of the manuscripts we excluded (without speculative reconstructed transcriptions) and they are examined by independent third parties (for scholars rely on the older work of others and most do not bother to do their own independent investigations), then we will gladly make public any corrections. This will even prove another one of our points in the video, in that the scholars (in most cases) can never admit to being wrong in fears of hurting the traditional critical narrative. We will set the example and gladly commit to any corrections; however, we will not let the focus shift away from the real purpose of our previous video, that being Paul’s Mission and Vision for Spain, along with John and his disciples going west with Christ’s Great Commission, yes, even in the Old Latin as Christ and Paul commanded (Romans 16:25-27; Mark 16:15).
I suspect that even if we are proven wrong on any one of these, that the scholars are more fearful of being exposed with many of those of which we are right on (which will be far greater in quantity), and they don’t want this information being advertised by revealing their lack of updated research with outdated, antiquated, and false information given to the public.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762I John 5:7 & the 1st Century Latin/Spain ConnectionWrite the Vision Ministry2025-04-24 | An introduction to Paul's Mission and Vision for Spain and the 1st Century Latin connections to I John 5:7 from Romans 16 and John's Third Epistle addressed to the Gaius the Latin.
This is just an introduction, and the evidence for I John 5:7 is extensive indeed. There is a "Mountain of Evidence" available, all one needs to do is reach out and grab it.
If you would like more information on Paul's 1st Century Vision and Misson for Spain and the connection to Romans 16 and Gaius in III John, and how that relates to I John 5:7, my book (IN FULL COLOR) covers much more at amazon.com/John-Century-Latin-Connection-Vision/dp/B0F29GH2S2
In this video we present evidence against the so-called list of 500 Greek manuscripts witnessing against I John 5:7 of which 78% of them are from the 12th to the 18th centuries. Now, according to the critic's own arguments, these are not to be considered good witnesses due to them being ‘late’ as they say. Now most likely, many of the critics will instinctively jump right to the manuscript evidence being dangled in front of them as fresh bait, completely ignoring the major theme of our 45-minute presentation about the 1st century Old Latin being used by God in the preservation of His word due to very early Greek corruptions; which of course proves our point in the video of their inverted reasoning by ignoring the Biblical priority of faith and the internal context of Scripture FIRST as God commands. But they have their priorities backwards by focusing ‘only’ on the external evidence. The internal evidence, faith, and the Spirit of God speaking to His Church these last 2000 years is on the backburner, and for some these workings of God's Spirit are completely ignored. Some scholars even say, “The debate is over” once faith is mentioned. God forbid we should say "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17; Hebrews 11:1).
FREE download for Mike's research papers on this are at kjvdebate.com/pdf bottom righthand side part 1 and part 2.
If, however, we are proven wrong in one or more of the manuscripts we excluded (without speculative reconstructed transcriptions) and they are examined by independent third parties (for scholars rely on the older work of others and most do not bother to do their own independent investigations), then we will gladly make public any corrections. This will even prove another one of our points in the video, in that the scholars (in most cases) can never admit to being wrong in fears of hurting the traditional critical narrative. We will set the example and gladly commit to any corrections; however, we will not let the focus shift away from the real purpose of this video, that being Paul’s Mission and Vison for Spain, along with John and his disciples going west with Christ’s Great Commission, yes, even in the Old Latin as Christ and Paul commanded (Romans 16:25-27; Mark 16:15).
Based on the proper order from the Biblical criteria, we can in fact say that “NONE of these 500 manuscripts can no longer be considered a witness against I John 5:7” for they have all been corrupted in John's Epistle. But mainly, “The Witness of God is Greater” (I John 5:9) by witnessing the Spirit of God speaking to His Church throughout history to the authenticity of the verse. God promised to preserve His words, not manuscripts! That providential time of manuscripts 500 years ago during the reformation has come and gone. The word of God in our time was promised to be in a ‘book’ between two covers as the “Book of the Lord” (Isa 34:16).
Herman C. Hoskier (1864-1938) made a profound statement in his ‘Codex B and its allies’ of which we should all take note of. He said, “Those who accept the Westcott-Hort text are basing their accusations of untruth….upon an Egyptian revision current 200 to 450 A.D. and abandoned [by the Church] between 500 to 1881, merely revived in our day and stamped as genuine.” We have the “witness of God” speaking to His Church throughout history. We have ‘a great cloud of witnesses’ (Heb 12:1) among hundreds of our brethren before us to the verse. We have ‘the witness of God’ in the internal evidence and the context of Scripture along with the Greek Solecisms without verse seven. Faith and the internal evidence are always on the bottom of the critics list, but we follow the proper order given by God Himself by placing His Scriptural criteria first.
My apologies for the echo's on the intro and outro but it is what it is. I forgot to hit a button during recording.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Eschatology runs into Country Music and Tucker Carlson!Write the Vision Ministry2024-08-06 | Tucker Carlson invites county singer John Rich on his show to discuss his new song about the book of Revelation and Eschatology. Interesting times indeed. Come to find out John is either post-trib or pre-wrath.
We offer 10 recommendations on how to have a civil and calm eschatology debate and being able to have these types of discussions by keeping our 'emotions' in check.
We then also discuss the 'category errors' withing the same camp of the 4 pre-millennial positions of pre-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath, and post trib positions and how to eliminate these mix ups in the four very unique and distinct positions.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Divine Intervention, Divine Judgment, and the State of the Union!Write the Vision Ministry2024-07-15 | After witnessing a divine act of God this week, it makes one ask, what is the future of this great country and the spiritual state of our Union? Are we to awaken one day to the same fate as ancient Rome, Babylon, or even ancient Israel due to our corruption and sins? Let us see what the Scriptures reveal.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Go, and sin no more (John 8:11) KJV.Write the Vision Ministry2024-07-11 | When it comes to overcoming sin in your life, who are you going to listen to? A teacher that has a message with the title of ‘Why you can’t stop sinning,” or one that teaches and advocates in helping you “How to overcome sin”? A Romans chapter 7 plain hamburger tastes much better between the two buns of Romans chapters 6 and 8, along with some II Peter 1:3-11 seasoning, a side order of I John 3:9, a drink of John 8:11, and thousands of Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.
Enjoy a song or two with just a few verses for your edification and encouragement as you seek the victory over the flesh. Soon, we will be discussing this topic in more detail.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762LIVE Audience Q&A on the King James Bible, the Old Latin, I John 5:7, the Church Fathers & More!Write the Vision Ministry2024-07-07 | Mike Ferrando, Nick Sayers, and Mike Hollner are producing a 100% audience Q&A session with all related questions to be answered LIVE. You don't want to miss this episode! We will be answering ALL questions from the Textus Receptus to Eschatology, from the King James Bible to the Modern Critical Texts, from I John 5:7 to Revelation 16:5, from the Old Latin to the Church Fathers, you name it we will answer it! This episode is 100% dedicated for the AUDIENCE of which have many questions and we will do our best to satisfy your every question in the search for the truth!
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more.' Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books here at amazon.com/stores/Michael-G-Hollner/author/B07BQ9CB8N for your edification and spiritual growth.
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Support by Mail: WTV Ministry PO Box 621727 Oviedo, FL 32762-1727Seminary Student Neo takes Red Pill from Latin Professor Morpheus for I John 5:7!Write the Vision Ministry2024-06-25 | Seminary Student Neo takes the Red Pill from Old Latin Professor Morpheus and discovers the truth about I John 5:7, that the Apostle John, did indeed write it!
Make sure you all join us for the LIVE Q&A July 6th, 20254 regarding I John 5:7, the Old Latin, Eschatology, the Textus Receptus, the King James Bible, Modern versions, and much more! All audience questions will be answered here at youtube.com/watch?v=ex_QJh9Kzvw
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Nick Sayers & Mike Hollner discuss the Pre-Trib/Mid-Trib/Pre-Wrath/Post-Trib Premillennial RaptureWrite the Vision Ministry2024-06-16 | Nick Sayers and Mike Hollner lay the foundation for the church as to the differences and unique attributes of the 4-pre-millennial rapture positions WHICH ARE NOT THE SAME! There is much confusion over the terminology of a pre-wrath rapture being a post-trib or even a mid-trib rapture. Things that are different ARE NOT THE SAME! This conversation (we hope) will lay the foundation for further dialogue in going forward as to present 4 independent views of each position so that the church can understand the contrasting views of each position as to not merge various positions into one.
The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a pre-wrath rapture! The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a post-trib rapture! The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a pre-trib rapture! (yet more similar to pre-trib than the others). The Pre-Wrath Rapture IS NOT a post-trib rapture! The Post-trib rapture IS NOT a pre-wrath rapture! Learn the differences here at kjvdebate.com/blog/f/history-and-errors-of-a-pre-wrath-rapture
As a mid-tribulational believer, I say to my pre-trib, pre-wrath, and post-tribulational brothers and sisters in Christ, that it is ok to agree to disagree on Eschatology. It is not a matter of salvation, or a reason for separation. Those of us that have grown in the Lord with 20, 30, or even 40 years or more behind us in serving Jesus, have matured into the realization that eschatology is important yes, but it is also a lot of fun, even when we have a few squabbles over the timing as pre-millennium believers. The church has been fussing over eschatology for thousands of years now, this is nothing new under the sun. Try to remember to have fun with eschatology and show respect for each other's views, with your expectations being held in check with humility in that millions of believers all hold different views, and that is ok.
Whether you're pre-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath, or post-trib, we are all under that same umbrella of protection as pre-millennium. WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME CAMP! Now the A-Mill and Post-Mill positions are in a DIFFERENT CAMP! That is another story, for another time as SEEN HERE at kjvdebate.com/blog/f/history-and-errors-of-amillennialismpostmillennialism
As being in the SAME CAMP, all the four of us are doing is sitting around the campfire challenging each other as to when Jesus will come to rapture His Bride, as we debate what Jesus said in Mark 13:35, interesting enough, as almost a prediction of the future four positions by His ultimate foreknowledge, when our Master Teacher said, "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh,
1) At even: (pre-tribulation! Before the 7-year tribulation) 2) At midnight: (mid-tribulation! In the middle of the 7-year tribulation) 3) At the cockcrowing: (pre-wrath! Around 5 1/4 years into the 7-year tribulation). 4) Or in the morning: (Post-Tribulation! After the 7-year tribulation).
Then as I gather some more wood for our campfire and come back, I speak up about one of the many unique features of a mid-tribulational rapture, and open to our Master's words in Matthew 25:6, that may have been a hint all along, when Jesus said, "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." And no, I take no dogmatic stand on this apparent hint, but I do find it quite interesting.
Those who claim a pos-trib/pre-wrath position (singular), are unaware that they are claiming to believe in two entirely different eschatological positions at the same time. Just trying to clarify this for the church. Although I don't agree with the post-trib position below, I do agree with this Pastor showing the difference. All FOUR positions are unique and things that are different ARE NOT THE SAME! I hope this helps those who may be mixing up the positions. And as always, let's love one another and have fun with eschatology.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762The Mid-Tribulational Midnight Cry RAPTURE (Matthew 25:6)!Write the Vision Ministry2024-06-05 | The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a pre-wrath rapture! The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a post-trib rapture! The Mid-Tribulational Rapture IS NOT a pre-trib rapture! (yet more similar to pre-trib than the others). The Pre-Wrath Rapture IS NOT a post-trib rapture! The Post-trib rapture IS NOT a pre-wrath rapture! Learn the differences here at kjvdebate.com/blog/f/history-and-errors-of-a-pre-wrath-rapture
As a mid-tribulational believer, I say to my pre-trib, pre-wrath, and post-tribulational brothers and sisters in Christ, that it is ok to agree to disagree on Eschatology. It is not a matter of salvation, or a reason for separation. Those of us that have grown in the Lord with 20, 30, or even 40 years or more behind us in serving Jesus, have matured into the realization that eschatology is important yes, but it is also a lot of fun, even when we have a few squabbles over the timing as pre-millennium believers. The church has been fussing over eschatology for thousands of years now, this is nothing new under the sun. Try to remember to have fun with eschatology and show respect for each other's views, with your expectations being held in check with humility in that millions of believers all hold different views, and that is ok.
Whether you're pre-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath, or post-trib, we are all under that same umbrella of protection as pre-millennium. WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME CAMP! Now the A-Mill and Post-Mill positions are in a DIFFERENT CAMP! That is another story, for another time as SEEN HERE at kjvdebate.com/blog/f/history-and-errors-of-amillennialismpostmillennialism
As being in the SAME CAMP, all the four of us are doing is sitting around the campfire challenging each other as to when Jesus will come to rapture His Bride, as we debate what Jesus said in Mark 13:35, interesting enough, as almost a prediction of the future four positions by His ultimate foreknowledge, when our Master Teacher said, "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh,
1) At even: (pre-tribulation! Before the 7-year tribulation) 2) At midnight: (mid-tribulation! In the middle of the 7-year tribulation) 3) At the cockcrowing: (pre-wrath! Around 5 1/4 years into the 7-year tribulation). 4) Or in the morning: (Post-Tribulation! After the 7-year tribulation).
Then as I gather some more wood for our campfire and come back, I speak up about one of the many unique features of a mid-tribulational rapture, and open to our Master's words in Matthew 25:6, that may have been a hint all along, when Jesus said, "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him." And no, I take no dogmatic stand on this apparent hint, but I do find it quite interesting.
Those who claim a pos-trib/pre-wrath position (singular), are unaware that they are claiming to believe in two entirely different eschatological positions at the same time. Just trying to clarify this for the church. Although I don't agree with the post-trib position below, I do agree with this Pastor showing the difference. All FOUR positions are unique and things that are different ARE NOT THE SAME! I hope this helps those who may be mixing up the positions. And as always, let's love one another and have fun with eschatology.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Fulgentius (462 AD-533 AD) & Cyprian (210 AD-258 AD) vs Modern Scholars on I John 5:7 by M Ferrando.Write the Vision Ministry2024-05-16 | The evidence is mounting, growing, and will soon become a “Mountain of Evidence” for I John 5:7. The testimonies of Greek and Latin manuscripts, church father witnesses, the internal evidence, and much more is snowballing into an overwhelming body of witnesses. All one needs is an honest heart while sitting at the feet of the Holy Spirit as “He guides us into all truth” (John 16:13), “And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left” (Isaiah 30:21) KJV.
Stay tuned, much more evidence is to be released!!!
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Disclaimer: Mike Ferrando, quote, "the only thing I said that was not quite correct was that the 629 did not have articles for Spirit, water, blood in verse 8. But in the Montifiore. I am correct that verse 8 does not have articles for Spirit water blood in verse 8. And I didn't mention this part, that Forster in his book talks at length about this contradiction about the "article theory" in the Montifiore. I put that in my paper as an appendix. IOW, I am not simply saying this from my own observation, but simply taking Forster's observation and applying it to the other manuscripts checking those verses as well. It's all in my paper.
More details about the 'no articles argument' will be discussed online very soon.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762460 Ancient Bishops vs. 460 Modern Scholars on I John 5:7 by Mike Ferrando!Write the Vision Ministry2024-05-11 | Mike Ferrando reveals the incredible witness of the 460 Bishops at the Council of Carthage in 484 AD and weighs this evidence against the speculation of the modern scholars in claiming I John 5:7 was an invention.
Download Mike Ferrando's FREE dissertation on "The Witness of God is Greater: 1500 years of the Heavenly and Earthly Witnesses, A Source Book" here at kjvdebate.com/pdf
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Debate Questions for I John 5:7 missed due to Technical DifficultiesWrite the Vision Ministry2024-04-24 | During our I John 5:7 debate with James Snapp, I ran into technical issues on my end with the slides, and I am presenting them here with several updates due to some answers I received from our opponent.
I thank Donny with STF, Mike, James, and the AUDIENCE for enduring a 4-hour debate, but as we said, the information for I John 5:7 is so extensive, as in a 'Mountain of Evidence' for the originality of the verse in the King James Bible, that it would take over a hundred hours of time to go over the evidence for this most contested verse of Scripture in church history.
Ronald Reagan once said to Gorbachev, "Trust, but Verify." All I am proposing is that when it comes to the dating of manuscripts and of the evidence within them, that it is time to go back to the drawing board with 2nd and 3rd professional opinions from those outside the Critical Text Camp. As I said in this video, if we are proven wrong on any of our assessments (by several outside experts), I am fine with that. Is that not reasonable to ask?
Clarification: GA 177 was not in opponents list against v.7, just the 11th century dating, but all the others were in his list as a witness against v.7, except the obvious Codex 61.
Update 04/29/2024: Mike Ferrando's Greek translation for Codex 61 at the ending of Mark did come back as 'ten years' as we suspected it would, thus making David Martin's (1639-1721) translator incorrect. Martin had other evidence for the 11th century along with Adam Clarke dating it at 1272. Mike Ferrando also debunks the 'no articles' argument for Codex 61 in his live interview with Nick Sayers.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Pastor/Church short version of the I John 5:7 debate for presentations.Write the Vision Ministry2024-04-22 | This is NOT the actual full live debate but rather the short version of the I John 5:7 debate with my presentation alone for Pastor's and churches desiring presentations. The original debate is here at youtube.com/watch?v=QSIU0r_4OB4&t=0s
Contact us for scheduling a 35–40-minute presentation for your church, fellowship, or organization with other new information to be release that Mike Ferrando has been attaining on almost a monthly basis with overseas translations of ancient manuscripts, and of my own extensive research into the integrity and originality of I John 5:7 as in the Textus Receptus and the King James Bible.
Mike Ferrando and I will have an updated presentation with even more evidence that will be presented in the churches before we go public with newly acquired information for I John 5:7.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Theodore P. Letis: Is the King James Bible too hard to read?Write the Vision Ministry2024-04-02 | This is part 2 from our previous video in asking the question of is the King James Bible too hard to read. Listen to the late Theodore P. Letis (1951-2005) explain the Thee and the Thou's along with the language of the Greek and the Hebrew being translated properly into the King James Translation.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762Is the King James Bible too hard to read? Short answer: NO!Write the Vision Ministry2024-03-08 | Listen to the facts about the percentage of the Archaic words in a King James Bible (0.23%) and compare that to the percentage of omissions in the modern versions and do the math. Then decide if it's worth sacrificing learning a few archaic words verses not receiving ALL the Words of God that you are entitled to by sticking with a King James Bible. Credits to Brandon Peterson for the Video clips.
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762[Part-14] The history and errors in the Pre-wrath/Post-trib eschatological positions!Write the Vision Ministry2023-08-05 | In this Part-14 we will show you the history and the errors of a pre-wrath position along with the post-trib position. Matthew chapter 24 not referring to the Rapture of Christ's Bride but is rather Christ's physical second coming back to earth at the Mount of Olives 3 1/2 years after our gathering together in the clouds with the Lord at Paul's 'last trump.'
I heard a preacher call the Matthew 24 rapture a yo-yo rapture, in that we are all caught up in the clouds with the Lord in the air, and then do an immediate U-turn to return back to earth with Him to reign. Aside from Paul's 'last trump' clearly not being in Matthew chapter 24, as it is revealed in Revelation 10:7-12:5, this immediate U-turn in mid-air is just plain silly in my view.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
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After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and Biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.[Part-13] Matthew Chapter 24 is NOT the Rapture of the Church!Write the Vision Ministry2023-07-17 | In this Part-13 we will show you from the Scriptures that Matthew chapter 24 is not referring to the Rapture of Christ's Bride but is rather Christ's physical second coming back to earth at the Mount of Olives 3 1/2 years after our gathering together in the clouds with the Lord at Paul's 'last trump.'
I heard a preacher call the Matthew 24 rapture a yo-yo rapture, in that we are all caught up in the clouds with the Lord in the air, and then do an immediate U-turn to return back to earth with Him to reign. Aside from Paul's 'last trump' clearly not being in Matthew chapter 24, as it is revealed in Revelation 10:7-12:5, this immediate U-turn in mid-air is just plain silly in my view.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
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After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and Biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.[Part-12] The Woman and the Man-Child of Revelation 12 REVEALED in Bible Prophecy!Write the Vision Ministry2023-06-30 | In this Part 12 we will reveal who the Woman and the Man-Child are in Revelation 12:1-6 and how that relates to a Mid-Tribulational Rapture of Christ's Bride.
Is it too much to ask that if we are going to agree to disagree over Eschatology that we at least agree to disagree over it with one Bible version, so that we are all on the same page? Otherwise, there is way too much confusion. The multitude of contradicting modern Bible versions is one of the root causes of so many various eschatological positions in my view. So, please, let's at least get on the same page with the same Bible version so we can unlock these great prophetic truths.
With that said, in our next [Part 13] we will return to showing the rapture as a mid-tribulational event and dissect Matthew chapters 24 and 25 for a friend in showing without a doubt that Matthew Chapters 24 and 25 is not relating to the rapture!
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
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“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Correction: When I said nobody gives birth to Christ I meant as far as a nation such as Israel or an institution such as the Church. I know Mary conceived Christ, yet it was not by natural means, for Joseph was not the Father, the Holy Ghost was, and Mary was the carrier of Holy Ghost conception (Luke 1:35) KJV.
Credits: Most of what I have learned about the Bride of Christ comes from a close mentor of mine way back in the 1980's, almost 40 years ago, and who has gone on to be with the Lord. I can tell you the old-fashioned preachers back in the 1930's and 40's were a different breed than what we have today.[Part 11] Understanding Bible Prophecy with a King James Bible and the Mid-Tribulational Rapture.Write the Vision Ministry2023-06-24 | In this Part 11 we will show you how the King James Bible is alone in revealing certain valuable 'keywords' when relating to Bible prophecy. We had to take a small detour and bring up the Bible version issue because some of the questions and responses that are coming in reveal a distorted view of certain passages. The reason for this is due to many readings that are different than what the King James Bible says. We will give a few examples out of hundreds in this episode.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
Is it too much to ask that if we are going to agree to disagree over Eschatology that we at least disagree over it with one Bible version, so that we are all on the same page? Otherwise, there is way too much confusion. The multitude of contradicting modern Bible versions is one of the root causes of so many various eschatological positions in my view.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
With that said, in our next [Part 12] we will return to showing the rapture as a mid-tribulational event and in our [part 13] to come we will dissect Matthew chapters 24 and 25 for a friend.
Correction: In the intro I meant to say the two women of Revelation 12 and 17, and the woman of Revelation 12 and the man child coming up in [part 12], not the two women of revelation 11. Opps
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WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762[Part 10] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-06-13 | This is part 10 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 10 we switch gears a bit after showing a strong case for a mid-tribulational rapture in this series. We start discussing some of the geopolitical events and specifically RUSSIA'S FUTURE INVASION OF ISRAEL! In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
“Write the Vision Ministry” is an Apologetic ministry in Defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 9] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-31 | This is part 9 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 9 we debunk the post-millennium and a-millennium positions along with those who claim the 'falling away' in II Thessalonians 2:3 is the rapture of the church rather than a falling way from the faith of which the context of Scripture clearly reveals. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur.
Correction: In one slide I said, "when the Son of Man is revealed" and I meant to say, "when the man of sin is revealed."
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 8] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-23 | This is part 8 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 8 we debunk the post-millennium and a-millennium positions along with reemphasizing the difference between the first 3 1/2 years of Paul's 'day of Christ' and Isaiah's the 'day of the Lord' during the last 3 1/2 years of the 7-year tribulation. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We also go over some of the history on the different positions.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming God’s Overcoming Message. Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 7] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-16 | This is part 7 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 7 we recap on debunking some of the common pre-post tribulational arguments along with reemphasizing the difference between the first 3 1/2 years of Paul's 'day of Christ' and Isaiah's the 'day of the Lord' during the last 3 1/2 years of the 7-year tribulation. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We discuss several other Pre-Tribulational verses of Scripture that are forced to say something they do not say in parts 1-6, and how other events point towards a rapture between Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 12:5.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Special thanks to James at Vindicated News for the George Abbott quote.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. MikeWrite the Vision Ministry Live Stream on the Mid-Tribulational RaptureWrite the Vision Ministry2023-05-15 | This session will be a live Q&A along with a test run with the OBS software.[Part 6] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-10 | This is part 6 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 6 we debunk some of the common pre-post tribulational arguments along with reemphasizing the difference between the first 3 1/2 years of Paul's 'day of Christ' and Isaiah's the 'day of the Lord' during the last 3 1/2 years of the 7-year tribulation. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We discuss several other Pre-Tribulational verses of Scripture that are forced to say something they do not say in parts 1-6, and how other events point towards a rapture between Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 12:5.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence or from watching from start to finish.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 5] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-04 | This is part 5 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 5 we debunk some of the common pre-post tribulational arguments along with reemphasizing the difference between the first 3 1/2 years of Paul's 'day of Christ' and Isaiah's the 'day of the Lord' during the last 3 1/2 years of the 7-year tribulation. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We discuss several other Pre-Tribulational verses of Scripture that are forced to say something they do not say in parts 2 and 3, and how other events point towards a rapture between Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 12:5.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
Correction: In one slide at the 6:33 mark I meant to say the 'last trump' is revealed in Revelation chapter 10 not Revelation chapter 11.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 4] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-03 | This is part 4 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
In this part 4 we answer some of the viewers questions in going forward to better help the viewers understand the difference between the first 3 1/2 years and the last 3 1/2 years on the 7-year tribulation period. In Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two he reveals what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We discuss several other Pre-Tribulational verses of Scripture that are forced to say something they do not say in parts 2 and 3, and how other events point towards a rapture between Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 12:5.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 3] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-05-01 | This is part 3 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
Part 3 is a short recap of parts 1 and 2 as we move forward and beyond Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two revealing what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur. We discuss several other Pre-Tribulational verses of Scripture that are forced to say something they do not say, and how other events point towards a rapture between Revelation 10:7 and Revelation 12:5.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 2] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-29 | This is part 2 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
Part 2 is a short recap of part 1 and we discuss Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in chapter two revealing what must first come to pass before 'the day of Christ' (the rapture) can occur.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
We highly recommend you watch these series not only all the way through, but in proper order for a consistent flow of content. Some of the questions coming in have already been answered due to some viewers not watching the series in proper sequence.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please consider supporting our ministry as the Lord leads at kjvdebate.com/give You can also mail your support to...
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Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Part 1] Understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulation Rapture at Pauls last trump.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-28 | This is part 1 in a series on understanding Bible Prophecy and a Mid-Tribulational Rapture at the Apostle Paul's 'last trump' of I Corinthians 15:52 (KJV). The Mid-Tribulational Rapture is the only position that positively identifies in the book of Revelation as to where Paul's 'last trump' is located, and which coincides with hundreds of other verses of Scripture.
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
After over 40 years of studying Bible Prophecy, and after a systematic examination of multiple hundreds of Bible verses (over 500) on the timing, I can confidently say that a Mid-Tribulational view is not only 'sound doctrine' but the most logical and biblically correct position.
With that said, let us remember Eschatology is not a matter of salvation and believers have agreed to disagree over the timing elements for thousands of years. So, let us show spiritual maturity by not casting our brothers and sisters in Christ into the 'lake of fire' over the timing of the Rapture, for that is plain silly and shows a lack of spiritual growth. I know eschatology is filled with passions and at times some dogmatic views, but please, keep it calm and show love for one another. Let's have some fun with this, for Bible Prophecy is exciting, and send in your questions as we will respond to them LIVE in our upcoming episodes.
Please consider supporting our ministry as the Lord leads at kjvdebate.com/give You can also mail your support to...
WTV Ministry PO Box 620496 Oviedo, FL 32762
Please share, like, subscribe, and send in your questions. Blessings.... Bro. Mike[Intro] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-25 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
This is a short INTRODUCTION to our 7-part series, and we want to thank the viewers for your support of our channel with your likes, comments, and subscriptions. There is such a huge mountain of evidence for this verse that I have recently learned about that for me personally has been amazing. If you want the external evidence for yourself, get Mike's dissertation below. https://www.academia.edu/81925237/The_Witness_of_God_is_Greater_by_Mike_Ferrando_June_2022
'Write the Vision Ministry' is an Apologetic ministry in defending God’s Word, preparing for the things to come through Bible Prophecy teachings, and proclaiming Christ's Overcoming Message of 'Go, and sin no more' (John 8:11). Our triad of titles are “The King James Only Debate,” “The Mid-Tribulational Rapture of the Bride,” and “Go, and sin no more.” These three titles are in harmony with God’s end-time message and vision of Habakkuk 2:1-4. We encourage the reader to explore these three books below for both edification and spiritual growth.
In part 2, part 4, and part 6, Mike debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written." The evidence we provided in this seven-part series has just scratched the surface, we have not even tapped into 10% of the external historical documentation for I John 5:7 throughout the centuries.
This series in part 3 has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[Part 7] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-24 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
In this part 7 series we do a short recap of all the previous six parts and want to thank the viewers for your support of our channel with your likes, comments, and subscriptions. There is such a huge mountain of evidence for this verse that I have recently learned about that for me personally has been amazing. I encourage the viewer who wants to know more to grab a title of my book at www.kjvdebate.com and Mike Ferrando's extensive dissertation below at..... https://www.academia.edu/81925237/The_Witness_of_God_is_Greater_by_Mike_Ferrando_June_2022
Now that we have concluded our seven part series, Mike and I may go live against two others in a 4-way debate with a host.
We highly recommend this 7-part series is watched in order for better clarification and proper flow of content.
Part 2 and part 4 debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written."
This series in part 3 has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 6] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-23 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
In this part 6 series Mike Ferrando discusses yet another church father witness called Fulgentius (462-533 AD) who not only quotes the Comma in I John 5:7 but also refers to Cyprian quoting the Comma! His grandfather Gordianus was a Senator of Carthage in 484 A.D., and he likewise was persecuted and lost his property as Arian Priests took over his house from his heritage. Fulgentius also knew both Greek and Latin which makes it harder for scholars to place him in the "Latin Father Box" as Mike refers to. So, grab a chair and a cup of coffee as we introduce the (3) debates between the Arian Vandal King Thrasamund vs. Fulgentius. Get Mike's full dissertation (below) for all the details and 1500 years of witnesses for I John 5:7, as we alert the church to the mountain of evidence that is available for this inspired verse of Scripture. Who knew? I sure did not know the full extent of his story, but I do now! I previously mentioned him in my book with Mike's paper as a source but had forgotten about him and had no idea as to the full extent of his importance and the story behind him, along with his multiple quotations of the Comma in his three debates with the King. There is such a mountain of evidence for this verse that of late I have been amazed by it. https://www.academia.edu/81925237/The_Witness_of_God_is_Greater_by_Mike_Ferrando_June_2022
This is PART 6 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando joins us as he did in part 2 and part 4. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
We highly recommend this 7-part series is watched in order for better clarification and proper flow of content.
Part 2 and part 4 debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written."
This series in part 3 has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 5] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-22 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
In this part 5 series we discuss the critical element of faith and spiritual discernment which is often left out in these types of debates. We are talking about a Holy Ghost inspired BOOK, the Bible, and it is inspired by God. This is why some of the critics say 'the debate is over' once divine preservation or any supernatural work of God is involved in giving us a perfect Bible in the year 2023. This is a gross error in our view and a weakness in the art of modern textual criticism. The Spirit of God still speaks to the churches, and we must have discernment to hear the voice of the Shepherd.
This is PART 5 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando joins us in part 2, part 4, and part 6 among other parts as we move forward. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
Part 2 and part 4 debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written."
This series has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 4] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-15 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
This is PART 4 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando joins us in part 2 and part 4 among other parts as we move forward. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
Correction: Mike meant to say Eucherius: spirit, water, blood was about baptism and salvation in Christ (not the Trinity) Facundus: spirit, water, blood was about the true humanity of Christ on earth (witnessed by the Trinity on earth). Cyprian was emphasizing the "oneness" of the three.
We highly recommend this 7-part series is watched in order for better clarification and proper flow of content.
Part 2 debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written."
This series has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 3] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-10 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
This is PART 3 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando joins us in part 2 and part 4 among other parts as we move forward. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
We highly recommend this 7-part series is watched in order for better clarification and proper flow of content.
Part 2 debunked the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offered an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written."
This series has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 2] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-04-09 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
This is PART 2 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando joins us in part 4 and part 7 among other parts as we move forward. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
Part 2 here will debunk the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy as Mike offeres an overwhelming body of external evidence that Cyprian did indeed quote I John 5:7. Critics almost always miss the part of his quote when he says, "again, it is written." We briefly touch on a few points but the majority of evidence in debunking the critics Cyprian argument is found within Mike's papers here at https://www.academia.edu/81925237/The_Witness_of_God_is_Greater_by_Mike_Ferrando_June_2022 and also here at https://www.academia.edu/98872012/The_Johannine_Comma_Critics_Theories_Debunked_KJV_Verses_Vindicated_Greek_and_Latin_w_Translations_By_Mike_Ferrando
A portion of the debunking in this part 2 is also here at https://www.academia.edu/71268705/The_Comma_Calmly_Considered_by_Mike_Ferrando_February
This series has also shown that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries. Part 4 will show a slam dunk of 460 Bishops all putting their lives on the line quoting VERBATIM I John 5:7 to the Arians. We doubt modern scholars will put their necks on the line for variation readings as these 460 brethren did.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.[PART 1] I John 5:7 debate challenge to scholars on the originality of the JC in the TR/KJB.Write the Vision Ministry2023-03-25 | Mike Ferrando and myself are offering a challenge to a debate rebuttal on the originality of the Comma in I John 5:7 as read in the Greek Textus Receptus and the King James Bible. This challenge is open to all Critical Text Scholars, New Testament Scholars, Byzantine only camps, and even for those on the fence in between. Mike Ferrando and myself will respond in the 'spirit of meekness' (Gal 6:1), while standing firm in our belief that I John 5:7 is God's inspired word and original.
This is PART 1 of a 7-PART series of which Mike Ferrando will be joining us in part 2 as we move forward. James Snapp Jr. was originally going to debate us both live but he did not pick a partner so we are going to do the series ourselves first, and James and other scholars can offer their rebuttal. After the 7 series are completed, Mike and I may go live against two scholars with another host in a 4-way debate with a host.
Part 2 will debunk the Cyprian did not quote the Comma fallacy and show that due to early Greek corruptions by the Gnostics and heretics, that God used the Old Latin to preserve pure readings in some cases where the majority of Greek Manuscripts experienced the pen knife by intentional omissions. This will be verified both by Scripture in the 1st century and early church fathers in the 2nd-5th centuries.
All rebuttals to our arguments will be published on both our website at kjvdebate.com and here on our YouTube page. We may go past the 7-part series if necessary, depending upon who (or if anyone) accepts our challenge. Either way, our main intended audience is for those on the fence regarding the certainty of ALL of God's Word, including I John 5:7, of which we hope to reassure the listeners that they can be certain today it is God's error free Word.
Note: In our view, the two weaknesses that modern scholars have is in....
1) Omission of and/or ignoring the 'faith' factor when Holy Scripture is authored by the Holy Ghost. How can we ignore the 'faith' factor and leave spiritual discernment at the door when we are talking about God's Word? This is a spiritual matter and spiritual discernment cannot be left out in these types of debates which occurs all too frequently. This debate is all about faith and spiritual discernment, there frankly is not a way around this fact. 2) Omission of and/or lack of understanding of God's providential preservation process of the Scriptures and acting as if the debate is already over if divine preservation is discussed. No, actually the debate is just starting.
Note: Greek Manuscript Codex Ottobonianus (629) dated in the 1300s, was not brought up by me in one slide verbally as Greek evidence for the Comma but is visible for the viewers. One of several pre-Erasmus Greek evidences for I John 5:7.A quick review of the James White vs. Thomas Ross debate on the LSB Bible vs. The King James Bible.Write the Vision Ministry2023-03-14 | A quick 15-minute review of the debate between Dr. Thomas Ross and Dr. James White over the LSB vs. The King James Bible.
Point #1: The archaic language of the King James Bible is less than 0.02% of the entire Bible of over 775,000 words. Even if Dr. White was correct in saying there is a 'TON' (such as in 2000) of archaic words, it would still only be 2000 % of 775,000 = 0.258%. Thus, my analogy of gnat straining in a 'look over here' moment while overlooking much more important matters is valid in my view. In my view of the debate, Dr. Ross did entertain more important matters. Some of the words in Dr. White's list he misspelled, and some of them are in the LSB Bible, not the KJB.
Point #2: The Revelation 16:5 and Ephesians 3:9 readings in the King James Bible are contextually correct and the internal evidence was not even brought up in this debate. Isaiah 28:9-13 in the KJV (for modern versions change this teaching) is the key to knowledge and doctrine and is often overlooked in textual debates. The Scriptures CONTEXT must be a priority, and textual matters must take a back seat as secondary. This is the 'PCC' guiding rule of 'Primary Contextual Consideration' that Isaiah 28:9-13 (in the KJV) teaches.
Point #3: Modern text critics often act as if the Byzantine and the Received Text just fell out of the sky somehow in later centuries. The history of the TR/Byzantine text is often overlooked and not discussed in these debates. Anyone who is honest hearted and serious about the history of the TR/Byzantine texts should read Nolan's extensive dissertation here at archive.org/details/a601052600nolauoft/page/n5/mode/2up
My book at kjvdebate.com discusses these matters with more details.Dr. Jeff Riddle vs. Dr. James White on the Eph 3:9 fellowship reading with follow up enhancements.Write the Vision Ministry2023-03-04 | Although this debate was several years ago, I am offering some new information on the Ephesians 3:9 'fellowship' reading in the TR/KJV. I believe Dr. Riddle would have expanded on the points in this video had he not had time constraints within the debate format. Explain Apologetics did a great job moderating this debate and my hats off to them. Below are some of my points.
1) The Internal Evidence was not fully covered by Dr. Riddle due to his time constraints. 2) The 'umlauts' (dots) pointing to Byzantine variations in Codex Vaticanus at Ephesians 3:9 (and in hundreds of other places with Byzantine variations) was not covered. 3) The contextual considerations in the book of Acts relating to proper geography directed by God's Spirit was not covered. 4) The Spirit of God in being specific towards certain CITIES and locales was not covered. 5) And how these geographical locales relate to ancient papyri such as (p46) and other 4-5th century Egyptian manuscripts as shown in this clip. 6) The faith issue is discussed briefly as it all comes down to what each individual believes both in the secular world and in the Church. 7) A brief explanation of the question often asked, "Which T.R. edition"?
Note: I do not claim the dots are umlauts at the end of Ephesians 3:9 but the umlauts are legit to the left of the verse according to Gravely's extensive dissertation as listed in his apparatus.Rebuttal to James Snapps shorter ending theory at Matthew 25:13!Write the Vision Ministry2023-02-22 | I am offering a debate rebuttal to James Snapp's' recent article making the false claim in that the longer ending of Matthew 25:13 is not original. Jesus said, " Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh" Matthew 25:13 (KJV)
James Snapp thinks Jesus said, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour" (Matt 25:13, Snapp article).
Kurt and Barbara Aland said, "No adequate history of the Byzantine test has yet been done.' I say no adequate history or extensive research has been done by the critical text scholars on the 'umlauts' signifying an ancient Antiochian/Byzantine text, nor has any extensive dissertation been done on the Apostolic roots of the Waldensians, and how this relates to Pauls' two years under house arrest in Rome (Acts 28:30) KJV. Connect the dots my friends with an honest heart!
Didache (early 2nd century) • 16. Be watchful for your life; let your lamps not be quenched and your loins not ungirded, but be ye ready; for ye know not the hour in which our Lord cometh. (cf. Matthew 25:13) • Greek: XVI. Γρηγορεῖτε ὑπὲρ τῆς ζωῆς ὑμῶν· οἱ λύχνοι ὑμῶν μὴ σβεσθήτωσαν, καὶ αἱ ὀσφύες ὑμῶν μὴ ἐκλυέσθωσαν, ἀλλὰ γίνεσθε ἕτοιμοι· οὐ γὰρ οἴδατε τὴν ὥραν, ἐν ᾗ ὁ Κύριος ἡμῶν ἔρχεται. (cf. Matthew 25:13) earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html
Although the Didache is not an "exact quote" but conflates other verses from the other gospels, there is a very distinctive part of this verse as it appears in Matthew 25:13. ἐν ᾗ ὁ only appears in Matthew 25:13, thus demonstrating that the verse did in fact exist in Matthew's Gospel. The allusion in the Didache is to one of the verses in the Gospels related to the coming of the Son of Man. Of course, it does not indicate which it is directly related to. The actual Didache Greek is more than likely from memory (by the writer of the Didache). However, what is important is that the Greek of the Didache demonstrates a familiarity with the ending of Matthew 25:13. That ending is what has been removed in the new bible versions. And moreover, the ending has a distinct Greek text which is in no other verse concerning the "coming of the son of man". Jefford does not see an exact match for the Didache allusion but lists the possible verses in the NT. Notice how his example of Matthew 25:13 is the "new bible version" truncated text. No matter, the fact stands regardless that the Didache alludes to the last clause in Matthew 25:13 which is the point after all. Jefford simply affirms our point connecting the Didache allusion to Matthew 25:13. - Mike Ferrando
That was Mike Ferrando's point. My point is that 'Lamps' is exclusive to Matthew's Gospel alone and exclusive to the parable of the Ten Virgins in Matt 25:1-13. 'Lamps' is specifically mentioned in the Didache thus being a very good 2nd century witness/evidence for the longer ending of Matthew 25:13 for "LAMPS" is ONLY mentioned in Matthew chapter 25 alone. Connet the dots.
My friend James appears to focus on the majority of textual evidence for a verse such as the Greek witnesses for I John 5:7. But in this case Pickering has the longer ending of this verse showing 90% of majority readings. My opponent seems at times to enjoy pioneering new 'theories' over the manuscript evidence such as his '7th Century Anonymous Irishman' for I John 5:7-8 (in this case the Latin evidence), or his "Sepulveda Theory' for 'later scribes' adding the umlauts (dots) in Codex Vaticanus. In this case, in Matthew 25:13, he ignores the majority of textual evidence for his 'Y' Theory or one Codex with another imaginary scribe inventing the longer ending "probably" under the "influence" by somebody. Thank goodness it's not the 7th Century Irishman at it again.
Made two statement blunders when I asked Bro. Snapp if he has a 100% certainty that the shorter ending is not original when I meant to say how certain is he that the longer ending is not original.
Also, after talking with James, he did not mean that I was a 'divisive ignoramus' in the present tense but rather for me not to look back in the future and say so myself. I told him that was how I took it, so it was a misunderstanding on my part. When I make statements such as that I usually put in parenthesis (not saying this is you) for clarification purposes.Review of The Kings James Only DebateWrite the Vision Ministry2023-01-26 | Brother Dan at 'Preserved Word Ministries' reviews 'The King James Only Debate.' To get your copy go to www.kjvdebate.com
Brother Dan goes over the unique feature of the book of providing all sources and documentation online at kjvdebate.com/endnotesThe Shepherd Pilot Episode: The ChosenWrite the Vision Ministry2018-06-29 | Beautiful sample of the Shepherd movie with very touching scenes.
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