The Fourth Curtain
Episode 28 - The Independent Mindset of Braids Jonathan Blow
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Our guest this week is Adam Boyes, longtime co-CEO of Iron Galaxy and now founder of Vivrato. From Killer Instinct to The Last of Us Part I, he’s helped bring major games to life and now supports devs launching their own. We discuss putting in raunchy stuff, nemawashi and his magic deck of challenges, this week!
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#AdamBoyes #killerinstinct #lastofus #spyro #games #podcast #gamedesign
Our guest Rémi Racine is a CEO and executive producer at Behaviour Interactive—the studio behind Dead by Daylight and dozens of other titles. A veteran of the games industry for over 25 years, Rémi has helped shape not just iconic games but also the entire Canadian game development landscape - this week!
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#RémiRacine #deadbydaylight #dbd #mortalkombat #silenthill #games #podcast #gamedesign
Our guest Nolan North has brought to life your favorite videogame characters with his voice! From Uncharted's Nathan Drake and Assassin's Creed's Desmond Miles, to scores of others, he is a top talent in the industry. We discuss the freedom of preparation and being broke but happy - this week!
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Our guest John Blackburn was a founder and CEO of Avalanche Studios, makers of hundreds of games for dozens of platforms, such as Hogwarts Legacy and Disney Infinity. He has tales of when games paid royalties and having to take a chance. We discuss how to talk to execs and being true but not canon - this week!
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Our guest Michael Morhaime was President and CEO of Blizzard during the glory years of shipping Warcraft, Starcraft, WoW, Diablo and more! Now Founder and CEO Dreamhaven he's won an Emmy and is in the AIAS Hall of Fame. We discuss red tape, how many billion dollar franchises you need on your resume and more - this week!
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Our guest Bing Gordon has had a long successful run in videogames and tech. From marketing lead to Chief Creative Officer at EA, he helped shaped NASCAR, The Sims and other huge titles. We discuss pitching, two beer strategies and Speilberg's smoke test - this week!
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Our guest Kim Swift turned a student demo into the mega-hit Portal. Previously the Head of Creative for Xbox Games Publishing, she also did level design on Left 4 Dead and was Design Director for Star Wars: Battlefront II. We discuss how to pitch, owning IP on Mars and whether or not the cake is a lie - this week!
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#kimswift #kim #swift #portal #left4dead #l4d #steam #gamedev #podcast #gamedesign
In this episode Ed Fries shares stories from his early days at Microsoft where he may have invented the first screen saver and worked his way up to leading the games division. He talks about the challenges of making the Xbox and the infamous “Valentine’s Day Massacre” where the Xbox’s future hung in the balance. He also talks about the impact of Halo and how he made Halo for the Atari 2600.
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Our guest Alex Beachum turned his thesis project into the mind-bending smash Outer Wilds. Inspired by greats such as Zelda and Antichamber, it blazed new ground by having a nonviolent (though definitely mortal) player. We discuss emotional prototypes, four distinct mysteries and the IGF - this week!
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Our guest this week is Alex Irvine. Fresh off Marvel Rivals he has also written for DC, Transformers and Halo, among others. We discuss OG D&D, how you need two of three things to succeed, and the first Alternate Reality Game, The Beast - this week!
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#videogames #marvelrivals #jeopardy #author
This week, we had the pleasure of speaking with Joseph Staten! From directing some of the most iconic games to becoming a New York Times best-selling author, Joseph has achieved it all. Join us as we delve into his remarkable career and discover the secrets behind his incredible success.
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This week, we had the pleasure of speaking with the legendary Sir Ian Livingstone, delving deep into his illustrious career, from founding Games Workshop to his influential work on Tomb Raider.
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We sat down with legendary game designer Mike Pondsmith this week for an in-depth conversation about his expansive career, from creating the tabletop RPG Cyberpunk to collaborating with CD Projekt Red on Cyberpunk 2077.
In this segment hear Mike answer the question, "How does Mike Pondsmith design a game?"
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Join us for a special video, where we’ve combined an exclusive segment from our interview with Warren Spector, reknown game designer responsible for Deus Ex and Epic Mickey with footage from the brand new Epic Mickey Rebrushed.
In this clip, Warren Spector delves into his game design philosophy, emphasizing the importance of player choice and freedom. He contrasts his approach with more linear games, saying, "One of the rules in my games is there's always another way." By prioritizing multiple solutions to challenges, Spector strives to create immersive experiences where no two players have the same story.
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Join us for a playthrough of Halo 2600, a retro throwback to the golden era of gaming. In this special video, we’ve overlaid an exclusive segment from our interview with Ed Fries, the former VP of Microsoft and creator of Halo 2600. Ed shares the story behind how he created this Atari 2600 game as a passion project after leaving Microsoft, combining the worlds of Halo and the Atari 2600’s 8-bit charm.
Watch as we navigate through Halo 2600’s pixelated action, and hear from Ed about his inspiration for making the game, how it all came together, and why it stands out as a unique piece of gaming history.
Interested in learning more about the creation of classic games? Check out Racing the Beam for an in-depth look at how games were developed for the Atari 2600: Racing the Beam on Amazon.
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Timestamped Highlights:
[00:00:00] - Harvey Smith discusses his first encounter with a game that sparked his passion, System Shock, comparing it to seeing one's first love in a movie.
[00:45:00] - Harvey recounts his experience with Ultima 8, explaining how he created a list of 100 ways the game could have been improved and how he was eventually given a team to fix these issues.
[01:05:00] - Harvey shares the development of Deus Ex, discussing how the team decided to extend the development period by six months after realizing the game could be significantly improved.
[01:13:00] - Harvey emphasizes the importance of having additional time for game development, citing examples like Deus Ex and Dishonored, where extra time made a substantial difference in quality.
[01:17:00] - Harvey and Alex discuss the challenges and rewards of working in the game industry, touching on topics like QA work, the grind of production, and the passion required to succeed.
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