Voidcast #7 – The Turin Horse Voidcast 2024-01-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the 2011 Hungarian movie A torinói ló (The Turin Horse), directed by Béla Tarr, based on a screenplay by László Krasznahorkai:"On January 3, 1889 in Turin, Italy, Friedrich Nietzsche steps out of the doorway of number six, Via Carlo Albert. Not far from him, a cab driver is having trouble with a stubborn horse. The horse refuses to move, whereupon the driver loses his patience and takes his whip to it. Nietzsche puts an end to the brutal scene, throwing his arms around the horse’s neck, sobbing. After this, he lies motionless and silent for two days on a divan until he mutters the obligatory last words, and lives for another ten years, silent and demented, cared for by his mother and sisters. Somewhere in the countryside, the cab driver lives with his daughter and the overworked horse. Outside, a windstorm rages. The horse refuses to move, and the man and his daughter struggle through their daily schedule. Food and water grow scarce. Beggars and gypsies come to their door. The horse stops eating. Slowly, the apocalypse approaches. Immaculately photographed in Tarr’s renowned long takes, The Turin Horse is the final statement from a master filmmaker."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wbour interview with John Williams / @AntinatalistAdvocacy: youtu.be/9-Jo2uWo1yMCarlos mentioning the work of Béla Tarr and László Krasznahorkai in our interview with Lawrence Anton: youtu.be/r3Jb_RtUCPM?t=1653 (0:27:33)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LINKS:• The Turin Horse on IMDB: imdb.com/title/tt1316540• The Turin Horse - Opening Scene: youtu.be/aoERWukgg_Q• László Krasznahorkai: A torinói ló (sketch on a serviette): https://www.krasznahorkai.hu/readings_A_torinoi_lo_filmovella.html• László Krasznahorkai: A torinói ló (script): https://www.krasznahorkai.hu/docs/A_torinoi_lo_forgatokonyv.pdf• interview with Béla Tarr: cineuropa.org/en/interview/198131LITERATURE:– Erich F. Podach: Nietzsches Zusammenbruch: Beiträge zu einer Biographie auf Grund unveröffentlichter Dokumente. Heidelberg: Kampmann 1930, p. 82.– Anacleto Verrecchia: La catastrofe di Nietzsche a Torino. Turin: Einaudi 1978.– “Federico Nietzsche a Torino” (sept. 16, 1900), Nuova Antologia 173/690, 313–316, p. 315. – Raskolnikov's dream in Fyodor Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment (Part I, Chapter V): en.wikisource.org/wiki/Crime_and_Punishment/Part_I/Chapter_V– Arthur Schopenhauer: Die Welt als Wille und Vorstellung I, § 58 [Zürcher Ausgabe Bd. II, S. 402]= Arthur Schopenhauer: The World as Will and Representation, vol. 1 (Cambridge edition), § 58, p. 348 [Hübscher p. 379].-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:02:09 Carlos introducing the work of Béla Tarr and László Krasznahorkai0:06:56 Lenny explaining the Nietzsche anecdote0:13:08 synopsis0:14:09 prologue and first scene0:16:59 characters0:26:46 The First Day & The Second Day0:30:56 The Third Day0:42:39 The Fourth Day0:45:39 The Fifth Day0:47:09 The Sixth Day0:48:30 credits and soundtrack0:51:32 Schopenhauerian variations0:56:47 concluding remarks0:59:38 comparison with Aniara1:00:42 (outro) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #11 – Music recommendations for pessimists Voidcast 2024-05-01 | In this episode Lenny shares some music recommendations with his fellow pessimists.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Note: I misspoke twice:• (21:20) Neofolk came into being in the mid '80s.• (33:35) Darkspace were founded in 1999; their demo was released in 2002.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2WbCarlos on the Vegan Week / Enough of the Falafel podcast:• Going Vegan: "I started avoiding meat at work": listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/going-vegan-i-started-wr2eOcdfTEU• 51- "But the brain needs meat": listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/51-but-the-brain-needs-meat-2I6rVNMaQOT• 52- When vegans go looking for trouble: listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/52-when-vegans-go-looking-KI29M6FLVbz-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LINKS:• Music recommendations for pessimists (YouTube playlist): youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1P4pXXq1GL3WlGuLDEAmQgJZuCvwNst• Norbert Grabowsky: lennysarchive.wordpress.com/2024/04/11/redemption-through-abstention-the-sex-negative-antinatalism-of-norbert-grabowsky-1861-1922• Andrew McIntosh's music: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJCMvTRbCfZ4MgLMw2gutZ0q3Co6oARYL• A Doom Metal Manifesto by Earl of Void: reddit.com/r/TrueDoomMetal/comments/111dj4h/a_doom_metal_manifesto_by_earl_of_void• ROME: romepage.org• Darkspace: darkcyberspace.com• @justmyfavstrangemusic261's "Russian Doomer Music" playlists: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSVhVwIpndKKKTjeii823Y_l9n6ybPYVHLITERATURE:– Andreas Diesel & Dieter Gerten: Looking for Europe. Neofolk und Hintergründe. Zeltingen-Rachtig: Auerbach Tonträger 2005. ISBN 3-936878-02-1.(English translation: Looking for Europe. The History of Neofolk. ISBN 9783936878240.)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------00:00 (intro)01:45 music in philosophical pessimism03:15 what this episode is not about05:15 the value and role of music in my personal life08:21 "a pessimist's guide to music"10:15 Recommendation 1: Reverend Bizarre & Doom Metal20:01 Recommendation 2: ROME & Neofolk32:16 Recommendation 3: Darkspace & Cosmic Black Metal38:13 Recommendation 4: Russian Doomer Music44:38 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #10 – Cormac McCarthy: Blood Meridian Voidcast 2024-04-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on Cormac McCarthy's 1985 Western novel "Blood Meridian or The Evening Redness in the West":"Based on historical events that took place on the Texas-Mexico border in the 1850s, Blood Meridian is an epic novel that traces the fortunes of the Kid, a fourteen-year-old Tennesseean who stumbles into a nightmarish world in which the market for Indian scalps is thriving."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2WbCarlos on the Vegan Week / Enough of the Falafel podcast:51- "But the brain needs meat"listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/51-but-the-brain-needs-meat-2I6rVNMaQOT52- When vegans go looking for trouble: listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/52-when-vegans-go-looking-KI29M6FLVbz-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LITERATURE:– Cormac McCarthy: Blood Meridian or The Evening Redness in the West (25th anniversary edition). New York: Vintage International 1992. ISBN 978-0-679-72875-7.LINKS:• excerpt from Paul Valéry's "The Yalu" (1895) in The New York Times: nytimes.com/1971/03/25/archives/the-wisdom-of-the-orient-western-civilization-destroys-the-fathers.html• Jacob Böhme: Von sechs theosophischen Punkten (1620), 9.13.: http://www.boehme.pushpak.de/sechs-punkte/kapitel_09.html• Samuel E. Chamberlain: My Confession: The Recollections of a Rogue. Introduction and Postscript by Roger Butterfield. New York: Harper & Brothers 1956. archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.226260• @Wendigoon's 5-hour summary and analysis of Blood Meridian: youtu.be/eu6STuj4njw-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:01:27 Carlos' introduction to Cormac McCarthy0:07:16 Blood Meridian: blurb0:11:01 three epigraphs0:18:22 the kid (ch. 1)0:25:30 the hermit (ch. 2)0:29:04 the filibusters and the Comanche attack (ch. 3–4)0:33:41 arrest and the Glanton gang (ch. 5–6)0:38:05 Judge Holden0:48:37 They rode on...0:50:17 the judge on raising children (ch. 11)0:50:53 the judge on moral law (ch. 17)0:56:09 the gang's habits and standards1:04:25 the kid meeting the judge again (ch. 23)1:07:57 epilogue1:11:34 concluding thoughts1:13:05 an unfilmable story?1:14:55 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #9 – An Antinatalist Experience (with Mark J. Maharaj) Voidcast 2024-03-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny speak with Mark J. Maharaj, also known as @BrotherMarkus on YouTube, about his past and ongoing projects, his experience with the antinatalist community, and the lessons learned along the way.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LINKS:• Mark on YouTube: youtube.com/@EhQuestionMark• Mark's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/EhQuestionMark• Mark's "Academic Anti-natalism Philosophy" Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/antinatalismphilosophy• Conundrum's Philosophical Pessimism Discord server: discord.gg/z9NQTuxPD6• Conundrum's "Critiques of EFILism" playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWWQ0LBECuOfN_RoEVJ5_OOpJomZtH29w• the old ExAN crew (including Carlos and Mark) introducing themselves: youtu.be/qzDYIIaM_V4• Mark being accused: youtu.be/WF5i85IkwSk?t=265 (at 4:25)MARK'S RECOMMENDATIONS:• youtube.com/@WackyConundrum• youtube.com/@callmeschibboleth7586• youtube.com/@dailynegativity5429 / youtube.com/@pessimismchannel / youtube.com/@DisciplinedPassion• youtube.com/@Philosophy_Overdose• youtube.com/@KaneB• youtube.com/@BraininaVat• youtube.com/@DO-NOT-WATCH• youtube.com/@PerspectivePhilosophy• youtube.com/@philosophyhub9257• youtube.com/@theblackponderer• youtube.com/@WirelessPhilosophy• youtube.com/@CarneadesOfCyrene-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:01:30 Mark's vegan/antinatalist journey0:06:36 Mark's antinatalism-related projects0:09:05 ethical reflection leading to antinatalism?0:12:01 "agent-relative sentiocentric Benatarian philanthropic-focused non-consequentialist anti-natalism"0:12:30 "agent-relative"0:16:22 "Benatarian"0:19:30 "philanthropic-focused"0:21:07 "non-consequentialist"0:22:53 philosophical pessimism0:26:37 Lenny's and Carlos' take on Mark's position0:30:01 starting ExAN0:34:34 ExAN #7 controversy and consequences0:42:54 Mark's platforming policy0:47:40 Mark getting backlash0:50:57 possible responses to toxic elements0:53:10 steelman dilemma0:54:52 complexity of contributions and engagement1:00:06 exposing power levels1:04:12 (not) yielding the floor to your opponents1:08:19 Mark's ongoing projects1:10:45 lessons learned and advice for antinatalists1:20:18 digital decluttering1:22:07 recommended content creators1:26:08 concluding remarks1:29:12 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #8 – The Antinatalism Magazine #1 Voidcast 2024-02-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the first issue of The Antinatalism Magazine, edited by the late Jiwoon Hwang and published in September 2017:1. François Tremblay: “The Non-Identity Problem”,2. Andreas Nilssen Möss: “Interview with Tim Oseckas”,3. Manu Herrán: “The Big Lie”.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2WbCarlos' interview on the Going Vegan / Enough of the Falafel podcast: listennotes.com/podcasts/vegan-week/going-vegan-i-started-wr2eOcdfTEU@LawrenceAnton's suggestion: youtu.be/r3Jb_RtUCPM?t=2144 (at 0:35:44)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LINKS:• The Antinatalism Magazine #1 on Amazon: amazon.com/dp/1549654934 (paperback) / amazon.com/dp/B075BGS6RL (Kindle)• The Antinatalism Magazine #1 on Academia.edu: https://www.academia.edu/34584850/The_Antinatalism_Magazine_September_2017_vol_1• The Antinatalism Magazine #1 on Antinatalism.com (archived): web.archive.org/web/20180317103522/http://antinatalism.com• François Tremblay's blog: francoistremblay.wordpress.com• M. A. Roberts: “The Nonidentity Problem", Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nonidentity-problem/• @Svankmajer's Planet Zapffe: web.archive.org/web/20221007051838/http://www.knunst.com/planetzapffe• @Svankmajer: “Why Antinatalists Should Stop Talking About the Red Button”, read by @BrotherMarkus: youtu.be/uT9TuAAqa34• @Tim Oseckas announcing the upcoming translation of Peter Wessel Zapffe's Om det tragiske: medium.com/@tjoseckas/hi-ihave-recently-received-confirmation-that-finally-an-english-translation-of-zapffes-om-det-b6f8889267e8• @mherran: “The Big Lie” (2017): manuherran.com/the-big-lieLITERATURE:– François Tremblay: A New Approach to Procreative Ethics. Lulu 2016 / Amazon 2019.– David Benatar: Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence, Oxford: Oxford University Press 2006.– Julio Cabrera & Karim Akerma: Antinatalism, Abortion and Existence. 2024. antinatalismblog.wordpress.com/2024/01/03/antinatalism-abortion-and-existence-by-j-cabrera-and-k-akerma / drive.google.com/file/d/1uDVXKoLh_5P-wqTmw7fh6zGrN9hQhRne/view– Matti Häyry: “A rational cure for prereproductive stress syndrome”, Journal of Medical Ethics 30/4 (2004), 377–378. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/jme.2003.004424 (open access).-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:02:00 introduction to The Antinatalism Magazine0:06:10 Jiwoon Hwang (1995–2018)0:08:58 where to find The Antinatalism Magazine #10:10:06 François Tremblay: A New Approach to Procreative Ethics (1)0:15:27 introduction to the non-identity problem0:18:34 François Tremblay: “The Non-Identity Problem”0:24:14 François Tremblay: A New Approach to Procreative Ethics (2)0:34:55 Andreas Möss0:37:10 Tim Oseckas 0:45:50 Manu Herrán: “The Big Lie”0:56:45 (outro) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #6 – Solar Sands: Voluntary Extinction Voidcast 2023-12-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the video essay "Voluntary Extinction" by @SolarSands. Request by @manbro-t4b. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------VOIDCAST LINKS:Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------LINKS:• @SolarSands: Voluntary Extinction: youtu.be/6O5S2Y4FhJ0• "Judeo-Christian Antinatalism?" – guest lecture and discussion with Dr. Karim Akerma [+ subtitles]: youtu.be/Qs9S0qc3WzQ• David Benatar confirms he does not have children: wnyc.org/story/the-harm-of-coming-into-existence (at 8:42)• @Svankmajer: In Defense Of Depressive Realism: youtu.be/uQ8yxGYJ4rw• John discussing antinatalism with Muslims: youtu.be/2kO-enPxK0c, youtu.be/cs4Pplv6YT0LITERATURE:– Théophile de Giraud: The Childfree Christ: Antinatalism in Early Christianity. Amazon 2021.– Karim Akerma: Antinatalismus: Ein Handbuch. epubli 2017 (5th ed. 2018), s.v. "Musikalisches Mä phynai (Niegeborensein): Queen (Freddy Mercury)", p. 442.– David Benatar: Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence. Oxford: Oxford University Press 2006, p. 196; pp. 70–73.– Julio Cabrera: Discomfort and Moral Impediment: The Human Situation, Radical Bioethics and Procreation. Newcastle upon Tyne: Cambridge Scholars Publishing 2019, p. 11, n. 3.– Michael Hauskeller: “Anti-natalism, Pollyannaism, and Asymmetry: A Defence of Cheery Optimism”, The Journal of Value Inquiry 56/1 (2022), 21–35. DOI: doi.org/10.1007/s10790-022-09884-8 (open access).– Théophile de Giraud: The Art of Guillotining Procreators: An Antinatalist Manifesto. Chapter VI: "The Right to Sue One's Parents".– Karim Akerma: op. cit., s.v. "Existenzgeld. Für ein bedingungsloses nativistisches Grundeinkommen", pp. 222–225.(English translation: Karim Akerma: Antinatalism: A Handbook, trans. Alexander Reynolds. epubli 2021, s.v. "“Existence Allowance”. For an Unconditional Nativistic Basic Income", pp. 186–192.)– Eduard von Hartmann: Philosophy of the Unconscious, trans. William Chatterton Coupland, vol. III, p. 129.– Hilan Bensusan / Julio Cabrera / Ana Miriam Wuensch: A moral do começo: sobre a ética do nascimento. Porto Alegre, RS: Editora Fi 2019, pp. 181–182.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------TIMESTAMPS:00:00 (intro)01:41 Solar Sands' video03:17 introduction: extinction and antinatalism05:53 Solar Sands' approach to antinatalism07:52 proto-antinatalist precedents09:10 biblical antinatalism13:02 antinatalism in popular culture14:25 anti-procreative communities today16:50 David Benatar19:13 what is antinatalism?21:58 the axiological asymmetry23:45 the 'quality of life' argument26:03 the Pollyanna principle28:05 necessity of factory farming29:32 procreative Ponzi scheme30:51 r/antinatalism34:39 bad arguments for antinatalism38:15 bad arguments against antinatalism40:02 antinatalism and religion41:43 good arguments against antinatalism43:47 Solar Sands' own counter-argument / Eduard von Hartmann's objection49:17 problems in population ethics50:17 antinatalism's logistical absurdity51:45 merits of antinatalist philosophy53:23 concluding thoughts on the video56:58 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #5 – Émile P. Torres: Human Extinction Voidcast 2023-11-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the 2023 book "Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation" by Émile P. Torres.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Émile P. Torres' website: xriskology.comÉmile P. Torres on Twitter: twitter.com/xriskologyÉmile P. Torres on YouTube: youtube.com/@emilep.torres2298 Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (Substack): xriskology.substack.com/p/human-extinction-a-brief-guided-tour Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (Medium): xriskology.medium.com/human-extinction-a-brief-guided-tour-of-the-book-5cfb6a5a726Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (audio version): youtu.be/zdxEaJtQiREÉmile P. Torres: “Can anti-natalists oppose human extinction? The harm-benefit asymmetry, person-uploading, and human enhancement”, South African Journal of Philosophy 39/3 (2020). 229–245.DOI: doi.org/10.1080/02580136.2020.1730051 (restricted access).Torres’ link: c8df8822-f112-4676-8332-ad89713358e3.filesusr.com/ugd/d9aaad_5dc39d5c3a06493b8fa48421d9f42d26.pdf ExAN interview with Émile P. Torres: youtu.be/zOCeERhg3kU-----------------------------------------------------------------------------our interview with Lawrence: youtu.be/r3Jb_RtUCPMPs.-Diog. epist. 47: reddit.com/r/antinatalismus/comments/14abyr9/eine_antike_empfehlung_der_kinderlosigkeit_psdiog(English translation: Abraham J. Malherbe (ed.): The Cynic Epistles: A Study Edition. Missoula, MT: Scholars Press 1977. p. 179.)the myth of Mainländer's death: reddit.com/r/Mainlander/comments/16a4tv6/probable_source_of_the_myth_of_mainl%C3%A4ndersoptimistic extinctionism: youtu.be/e_sM_lDbd7k, youtu.be/jgU4ywqXoYw"Why wasn't Schopenhauer an outspoken antinatalist?": youtu.be/xn8AupHN75E?t=907Andreas Nilssen Möss: "Why Antinatalists Should Stop Talking About the Red Button": youtu.be/uT9TuAAqa34Lenny's Kurnig project: reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/wd268d/the_holy_grail_of_modern_antinatalism_unearthedLes U. Knight calling Kurnig the founder of VHEMT: youtu.be/P_3FeOSuj5ALenny's introduction to Ulrich Horstmann's "Das Untier": reddit.com/r/antinatalismus/comments/yf3qjo/das_untier_konturen_einer_philosophie_der-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:01:33 fascination with the end of humanity0:02:59 blurb0:04:19 Émile P. Torres0:05:25 antinatalism and extinctionism0:07:03 terminology0:10:57 structure of the book0:15:20 1st Existential Mood0:17:08 Ps.-Diog. epist. 470:19:42 2nd Existential Mood0:20:45 Arthur Schopenhauer and the pessimists0:22:11 Philipp Mainländer0:27:34 Eduard von Hartmann0:30:43 thoughts on pessimism and philosophy repeating itself0:33:17 utilitarianism0:37:01 negative utilitarianism0:40:29 radical environmentalism and deep ecology0:44:39 longtermism0:53:03 transhumanism0:54:17 Margaret Atwood: Oryx and Crake (spoilers)0:55:11 science fiction and normative extinction0:56:07 where is David Pearce (PBUH)?0:56:41 David Benatar and contemporary antinatalism0:58:30 antinatalists against human extinction1:00:29 antinatalism and wild animal suffering1:02:57 4th wave of Existential Ethics1:04:00 Torres' own position1:08:55 the future of thinking about human extinction1:10:18 Lenny's additions1:11:08 Kurnig1:14:37 Ulrich Horstmann1:21:00 the role of privilege1:23:29 academic nitpicks1:27:26 conclusion1:29:39 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #4 – First Reformed Voidcast 2023-10-03 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the 2017 movie First Reformed, written and directed by Paul Schrader:"Reverend Ernst Toller (Ethan Hawke) is a solitary, middle-aged parish pastor at a small Dutch Reform church in upstate New York on the cusp of celebrating its 250th anniversary. Once a stop on the Underground Railroad, the church is now a tourist attraction catering to a dwindling congregation, eclipsed by its nearby parent church, Abundant Life, with its state-of-the-art facilities and 5,000-strong flock. When a pregnant parishioner (Amanda Seyfried) asks Reverend Toller to counsel her husband, a radical environmentalist, the clergyman finds himself plunged into his own tormented past, and equally despairing future, until he finds redemption in an act of grandiose violence. From writer-director Paul Schrader (Taxi Driver; American Gigolo; Affliction) comes a gripping thriller about a crisis of faith that is at once personal, political, and planetary."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------First Reformed official website: a24films.com/films/first-reformedFirst Reformed on IMDB: imdb.com/title/tt6053438First Reformed official trailer: youtu.be/hCF5Y8dQpR4 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------David Benatar & Michael Benatar: “A Pain in the Fetus: Toward Ending Confusion about Fetal Pain”, Bioethics 15/1 (2001), 57–76. DOI: doi.org/10.1111/1467-8519.00212 (restricted access).David Benatar: The Human Predicament: A Candid Guide to Life's Questions. Oxford: Oxford University Press 2017, p. 95.Patricia MacCormack quote: youtu.be/BfQH-uUjVxE?t=1272 (at 0:21:12)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------00:00 (intro)01:19 synopsis02:06 Paul Schrader04:06 Calvinism05:46 main characters 05:55 Reverend Ernst Toller (Ethan Hawke)09:44 First Reformed and Abundant Life11:23 Mary Mensana (Amanda Seyfried) and Michael Mensana (Philip Ettinger)13:59 first scene: Toller and Mary15:05 conversation of Toller and Michael17:49 anthropodicy18:47 conditional (anti-)natalism20:18 Toller's response and view on hope and despair21:06 bringing someone into and taking someone from this world22:54 Toller's pro-life and pro-natalist arguments24:41 environmentalism and stewardship in Christianity27:02 martyrdom30:08 Calvinist calling33:40 Abundant Life and Head Pastor Joel Jeffers (Cedric Antonio Kyles)35:35 Ed Balq (Michael Gaston)36:54 Toller's new mission40:24 the last day43:06 ending44:12 cinematography50:01 veganism51:26 conclusion52:19 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #3 – Aniara Voidcast 2023-09-02 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the 2018 Swedish sci-fi movie Aniara, directed by Pella Kågerman & Hugo Lilja, based on the epic poem of the same name by Harry Martinson:"With Earth in disrepair and no longer inhabitable, the human race begins to leave the planet for a new home on Mars. One of the departing vessels, the ship Aniara, runs through a field of space wreckage shortly after takeoff and is damaged beyond repair. With Aniara knocked off-course and drifting powerlessly out of control, the crew and passengers alike must wrestle with the reality of their fate. Crew member MR (Emelie Jonsson) operates a sentient computer that allows humans to experience idyllic memories of their lives on Earth. As the ship drifts further into space, the passengers begin to lose hope and sanity amid the growing sense of disaster. Pressure builds on MR as she is the only one who can keep the burgeoning insanity and lethal depression at bay."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Aniara (the movie) official website: aniarafilm.comAniara (the movie) on IMDB: imdb.com/title/tt7589524Aniara (the movie) official trailer: youtube.com/watch?v=fXK1NP73n4cHarry Martinson – Aniara (the poem): https://urn.kb.se/resolve?urn=urn:nbn:se:lb-lb441882-etextHarry Martinson – Aniara (the poem), trans. Stephen Klass & Leif Sjöberg, on the Generation Spaceship Project: gsproject.edublogs.org/gs-texts/texts-used-in-2017/aniara-by-harry-martinson-3Peter Wessel Zapffe – "The Last Messiah", trans. Gisle R. Tangenes: philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_MessiahPeter Wessel Zapffe – "The Last Messiah", trans. Trine Riel: aft3r.us/the-last-messiah-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:00:46 Aniara (the movie)0:01:51 synopsis0:02:39 Aniara (the poem)0:04:48 setting0:07:45 first scene0:08:23 Aniara, the space ship0:10:40 budget and limitations0:12:09 structure of the movie0:13:19 chapter I: Hour 1 – Routine Voyage0:16:02 veganism aboard the Aniara0:17:52 main characters0:18:13 Mirarobe (MR)0:20:18 MIMA0:22:46 Captain Chefone0:27:53 Roberta, the astronomer0:31:27 Isagel, the pilot0:32:48 society and privilege0:34:56 chapter II: Week 3 – Without a Map0:37:18 chapter III: Year 3 – The Yurg0:42:36 chapter IV: Year 4 – Cults0:46:08 chapter V: Year 5 – The Calculation0:53:20 chapter VI: Year 6 – The Spear1:04:57 chapter VII: Year 10 – The Jubilee1:06:57 chapter VIII: Year 24 – The Sarcophagus1:08:46 chapter IX: Year 5,981,407 – Lyre Constellation1:11:01 conclusion1:14:46 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #2 – Pop Squad Voidcast 2023-08-02 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the Love, Death & Robots episode "Pop Squad", based on a short story by Paolo Bacigalupi: "A cop charged with fighting the scourge of overpopulation is haunted by the human toll of his work."-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcastVoidcast Twitter: twitter.com/veganvoidcastVoidcast email: veganvoidcast@protonmail.comVoidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Love, Death & Robots on Netflix: netflix.com/us-en/title/80174608Paolo Bacigalupi's "Pop Squad" on the ISFDB: isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?299431-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:00:31 thanks0:01:10 announcing new links and platforms0:02:21 Love, Death & Robots0:03:32 Pop Squad0:04:25 Netflix synopsis0:04:41 disclaimer0:05:42 three symbols0:06:06 scene 10:15:36 scene 20:20:28 scene 30:31:38 scene 40:43:33 scene 50:48:59 scenes 6 & 70:52:28 scenes 8 & 91:00:20 two different endings1:04:19 conclusion1:10:01 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea
Voidcast #1 – Is Just Being Vegan Enough? Voidcast 2023-07-01 | In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on Carnism Debunked's post which argues that vegans have an obligation to engage in activism.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------• Carlos' previous podcast Void Wave: youtube.com/@voidwave8845• interview with Lenny: youtube.com/watch?v=xn8AupHN75E• Carlos' introduction on ExAN #1: youtube.com/watch?v=qzDYIIaM_V4• Carnism Debunked: youtube.com/@CarnismDebunked• Carnism Debunked: Vegetarianism is the OPPOSITE of Veganism: youtube.com/watch?v=gZDPrMp8yf8• Carnism Debunked: Why Just Being Vegan Isn't Enough: youtube.com/post/Ugkx9S46g7NFfTZ0Tos0fvZAPFKzsGU6WVs8• Andrew McIntosh's "miserablist" approach to antinatalism: youtube.com/watch?v=qO0ABy9dfOE• Karim Akerma: Manifest zum Antinatalismus: https://www.pro-iure-animalis.de/dokumente/manifest_antinatalismus.pdf(English version: Antinatalist Manifesto: http://akerma.de/Antinatalist%20Manifesto_Karim%20Akerma.pdf)• Die Militante Veganerin's interview with Carnism Debunked: youtube.com/watch?v=MRYimSW62dk-----------------------------------------------------------------------------0:00:00 (intro)0:00:42 Carlos' introduction0:01:45 Lenny's introduction0:04:40 what is Voidcast?0:06:21 Carnism Debunked0:08:32 Why Just Being Vegan Isn't Enough0:10:45 criticising your own camp0:13:25 Lenny's activism0:15:12 utilitarianism0:17:05 veganism, religion, and sin0:20:36 utilitarianism (again)0:21:34 vegan allies0:23:54 prevalence of vegan activism0:25:27 Carlos' activism (and fitness!)0:28:22 we live in a society0:29:45 fat and unhealthy vegans0:31:54 antinatalist activism0:33:26 Andrew McIntosh's "miserablist" approach to antinatalism0:36:26 comparing vegan, antinatalist, and extincionist activism0:38:52 (im)practicability of antinatalist activism0:45:24 veganism and imperfection0:46:32 post mortem impacts0:49:26 different types of activism0:54:28 comparing becoming vegan and becoming antinatalist0:56:46 antinatalism, veganism, and indifference towards other people's decisions0:59:24 life is pretty miserable ...1:01:45 ... but Carlos is a happy antinatalist1:04:40 wrap-up1:09:19 (outro)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea-----------------------------------------------------------------------------contact us at veganvoidcast(at)protonmail.com
