larsandersen23
I discovered the forgotten Viking spear bows
updated
People have often asked how many arrows I can hold in one hand at the same time, so today, 8/11-2024 my 60th birthday, feels like the day to try and test my limits.
Does it make sense to hold 45 arrows simultaneously in your hand in war? the described 15 arrows make good sense, but 45 is so difficult and heavy to handle that it was probably better to take 15 arrows 3 times.
Thank you for watching my videos, and have a wonderful day!
Lars Andersen
In 2017 I reinvented the turning arrow, but it was without any power.
Since then, other archers have performed tricks with the same powerless turning arrows.
However, in the book Arab Archery, it describes hitting an enemy beside you, but this seemed impossible. So I began experimenting and got help from several experts, and suddenly an arrow rotated and had a lot of power—quite scary. The arrow had a tip that I unscrewed, and in the next shot, the tipless arrow stuck into a board—very frightening.
In the historical descriptions of turning arrows, the arrow changes a lot with weight, lead, extra feathers, and the shape of the arrow. I went further and started building a bow that would throw the arrow into rotation.
It’s really hard to make it work; it requires incredible precision. The arrow must fit 100% to the bow, or the arrow flies in a random direction, and very small changes make it fail.
So don’t try this yourself, as it can be really dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing, because it is so unpredictable.
Best regards,
Lars Andersen
It is possible to place the arrow in alternative positions and use a wide variety of grips and grip combinations that cannot be done with only one string.
This is a prototype and a first attempt:
Does it have some advantages: Yes
Is it difficult to use: Yes
Does it have limitations: Yes
Can it be improved: Yes
Best regards
Lars Andersen
Some asked why do different forms of archery instead of proper archery?
But that is the wrong question, the real question is: why have we ended up believing in a single type of proper archery?
we know that historical archery was very varied and in most cultures archers trained many different variations and no one back then would understand proper archery
For example in the book Arab archery it is written an archer must have 4 bows: one for war, one for train, one for target, one for trick.
Until modern times, there are still different variations of archery
but after archery is thrown out of the Olympics after 1920
The outcast archers then standardize archery in 1931 which is smart to make a modern sport
They decide to use the English round colored target that everyone knows today and that has become iconic for archery
Anders Hovgaard Møller says "the round colored divided target is an English garden game invented somewhere after the year 1500 by the English upper class, who also invented a number of different games such as tennis, polo and croquet.
The colors for croquet are the same that were used for their archery game.
Bede Dwyer suggested to me that it was actually the Hollywood movie "The Adventures of Robin Hood" that really popularized archery in this new standardized form and at the same time made everyone, including me, believe that the round colored target was the widespread historical target
So this movie may be where the widespread perception of propper archery arises
In Denmark, where I live, archery started with clubs in the years after this film, if so it is certainly a reasonable explanation that the film created the modern perception of proper archery
we never know the truth about history, and it is probably more complicated how archery became standardized and how some began to believe that real or propper archery exists.
Remember archery is really many different things and it can be more fun to do many variations
Sincerely
Lars
and since it's last week, something really difficult is coming this week.
youtu.be/qc_z4a00cCQ
It was filming outside the store's opening hours
so random people didn't come near.
It's fun to have to find something new every day and I have ideas for new tricks and others have also kindly written to me with good ideas, In the next weeks I will raise the level.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
This month I'm going to try every day to do a brand new trick shot and make a video.
I've started making a list of tricks I've never done, some difficult, some maybe impossible, but also some that are just fun to do.
Some tricks will probably be new variations of old tricks, but I hope I will come up with some completely new things along the way now that I actually have to do something new every day.
This LP lapel is green and red on each side.
Since I made the world record "7 arrows through a keyhole" many have asked questions about how I do this.
So I decided to make a longer video and talk about it.
I asked my friend Jes if he wanted to participate, he writes books and gives lectures on archery
www.youtube.com/@jeslysgaard
But the conversation turned out differently than expected and ended up being about whether, contrary to what I thought, I actually did not do instinctive archery and whether it is possible to do instinctive archery at all.
I have always been convinced I did instinctive archery
I was wrong
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
The purpose of my officially controlled record attempt, was to try make a record that could be compared to the heroic shots of historical super archers?
The record attempt was filmed with four cameras from different sides and the keyhole from the side in slow motion so you can see the arrow going into the keyhole (there is a small clip at the end of the video) but it looks coolest from the front Camera!!
Everyone can try it themselves, it just takes a keyhole so it's easy to try.
Bow: Şimşek Sipahi
Arrows: Carbon arrows without feathers (otherwise they won't go all the way through the keyhole)
I have been training for a long time to shoot through keyholes
so much so that up to the record attempt I dreamed of keyholes.
I just watched Dude Perfect’s Archery World record and it got me super excited!
I love it when archery gets attention and new world record really helps with that!
So big shoutout to Dude Perfect and James Jean and congratulations on the world record.
Lars Andersen
Tod's workshop did a very serous and very exciting test where a historic longbow could not shoot through armor: youtu.be/DBxdTkddHaE
Armin Hirmer had tested this modern Oneida Osprey 30-50 pound bow: youtu.be/E1xHX-vJHRE
Armin sent the bow to me and since I only otherwise shoot historical bows I immediately started changing it to something I could use.
After the bow was rebuilt it now works pretty well for me and the way I do archery but with amazingly much power.
My 100 pound traditional bow shoots a large wooden arrow about 12 cm. into one of my target plates.
But the Onida bow and the small surface iron arrow shoot 40 cm. into the target plate!!!
Then I tried on my not authentic 2 mm. armor helmet (which none of my regular bows can shoot through) The iron arrow went right through and it was fun to shoot,
So I made a quick video.
It has never been a historical test, I say that in the video
and I made it clearly funny, (rotating jump shot on in remote-controlled skateboard)
This bow did not exist in history (that type of materials and fine mechanics did not exist)
Armor is of unknown quality and without ring armor or gambeson underneath
I used a rather random metal armor, since this test could not be historical anyway, I did not think it made sense to spend large resources on destroy an authentically made historical armor.
But my traditional bows and arrows I can not shoot through this test armor.
Is the title wrong or wildly exaggerated?
Maybe a lot and maybe not.
Can everyone shoot through armor with this bow?
If you calculate the moment of force that is transferred with a heavy and only 5mm. metal arrow transferred from a modern bow with exchange, then it is quite high compared to even a powerful war bow with a much larger wooden arrow.
So what will a test on real authentic historical armor show?
I can't say with certainty, but I think that especially if some spend a little longer trying to find the ideal metal arrows and exchange in the bow to fit.
So maybe it's possible that everyone can actually shoot through real armor or some can.
But I can't know.
Can we learn something historical from this?
Definitely not the bow.
But the metal arrow might be interesting to test properly sometime,
of course metal arrows would be very expensive historically but compared to the price of a knight then a single backstopper arrow that could stop a knight???
An anti-tank missile is also very expensive, but not compared to the tank it can destroy
Thanks to:
Armin Hirmer for sending me the bow.
Tod from todsworkshop.com to allow me to show some of his tests.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
But with years of full-time archery then impossible things become possible.
Many historical archers did trick archery and there are quite a few descriptions of shots without looking.
Text and speak Antony Cummins
www.youtube.com/c/AntonyCummins
Mathias Fullerton who shoots compound bow in video and is No. 2 on the world ranking list, we are in the same archery club, Lyngby Bueskyttelaug and and even though it is very different archery we sometimes train together.
instagram.com/mathiasfullerton
Are these just lucky shots?
All luck requires a lot of preparation and also here.
None of these shots I can do every time, but all the tricks in this video are tricks I have done several times.
Most of the video was filmed in a large sports hall and here is filmed 2 days to get good shots, that were also filmed well.
0:50 shoot and move, double shoot, is definitely the hardest trick, I first practiced many times where I watched while I did.
Lars
Joe Rogan Experience suggested they did archery like me, but this is wrong!
Comanche archery is a completely different and partially forgotten method.
There are many descriptions that they were incredibly good and very very fast, but no known method with the arrow on the left and arrows held in bow hand, is as fast as the Arabic method I usually use, where I only use one movement for each arrow.
So something was missing?
Along with Dave Mead I started researching and testing.
Eric Smith has been kind to tell his great-grandfather's experience of actually being shot after with arrows by Comanche which are written down and therefore confirm that they actually had 5 arrows in the air at the same time, when they were at war, and not just as games or the like.
And a number of other descriptions are known of how extremely fast they shot arrows.
It is 150 years since this extreme horse archery war method was used in reality, so much knowledge has been lost
We talked to a lot of people including Comanche people for trying to recreate this archery.
With many experiments with all sorts of variation, no one was near fast enough because there were several movements needed for each arrow.
I ended up, if the arrow is placed horizontally in the bow hand before or while shooting then you can shoot in one motion and it works really well and also on horseback.
And if you do not use the arrows, they can easily be brought back in front of the bow in one movement
Of course, it is not possible to know whether this method is the real Comanche method but it works well and fits with equipment and works well on horseback and can do everything described in historical sources.
It is also impossible to know if there is only one Comanche archery method, or several different.
Eric Smith told me he thinks so good archers they could both shot right and left around the bow and could use several methods, and this I think too.
But regardless of history, it's a really cool and fun way to do archery
as other archers should try too and it is very easy to learn!!
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
Danish language podcast about Recreating Comanche Archery
https://anchor.fm/lars-andersen5/episodes/Bueskytte-Lars-Andersen-Fortller-om-at-prve-at-genskabe-den-comanche-bueskydning-e1813eu/a-a6jr1eg
Dave Mead
youtube.com/channel/UC1yAT871XCCC1ZCVOyZm8fg
Eric Smith
http://www.plainsindianbows.com
Joe Rogan S.C. Gwynne
soundcloud.com/approvedbyyou/joe-rogan-experience-1397-sc-gwynne
My channel reached 500,000 subscribers yesterday.
So I thought I would do something exceptionally wild
I tried myself out, and tried different things and then it became more and more complicated and more and more difficult:
I jump up in the air
Swinging bow from my back
Shoots through keyhole
Shoots through a string
And blindfolded
By the way, to shoot through keyhole it is an arrow without feathers which also makes it harder.
Bow in video is a very small (about 85 cm.)
special edition of Şimşek Azaraks model,
Based on the historical Babur Mughal flight bow
40 # but at 26 "
I was actually myself quite surprised it was actually possible even with many attempts
Afterwards I begin to consider how difficult this trick-shot really was
I'm seriously considering if this is the hardest trick ever done ???????
(of course no one can know this for sure)
I asked Dr. Murat Özveri expert in historical archery.
He knows an incredible amount and is himself a good archer who also experiments with historical tricks Dr. Murat Özveri agreed that this may be the most difficult shot ever.
Historic super archer was amazing
but their archery was for practical use and even though they did trick shooting it was only secondary.
My advantage is that I live in modern times where the purpose of archery is only fun, so for years I have almost only trained to learn wild things and busting my limits.
I also do live archery trick but this is a video trick (which requires a lot of attempts)
So I wanted to do something that was only possible because I could try many times, so this is my limit of ability and luck.
Are you an archer and are in doubt about how difficult this is, try yourself
it's a fun experiment.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
1000 arrows in 25 seconds.
Arab Archery describes shooting 10 small arrows simultaneously (and does not describe feathers on the arrows) it is like a shotgun, you shoot so many arrows that it is not about precision, one of them probably hit !!!
Power from each arrow is very low but if arrows were poisonous (as many historical arrows were) then arrows hitting in the face or other unprotected areas could be dangerous.
Shooting fast 10 handfuls of 10 arrows are not described anywhere in historical sources, I tried to see if it was possible.
It was possible and whether it has any practical use, it is quite fun!!
Very much is questionable and can certainly be discussed.
Shooting multiple arrows simultaneously is historically controversial.
Is it a trick without practical use?
I doubt there is any historical idea in shooting 2 or 3 arrows at the same time.
If you compare shooting 2-3 arrows quickly one by one, then you get much much higher power and precision by arrow shot one by one, and it takes much longer to put several arrows on the string at the same time to be ready for to shoot.
So you can fast shoot the same number of arrows at the same time, with much higher power and precision, so why shoot 2-3 arrows simultaneously ?
10 arrows at a time is of course debatable too.
Very little power and you use a huge number of arrows.
But if the purpose is to spread as many arrows as possible, then you may only need, very quickly made arrows in poor quality.
Although I very much doubt it was widespread in history that archer shot several arrows at once, I thought it was a fun idea with so many arrows and would share it with others too.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
I suddenly got a lot of extra time when Corona closed everything.
So I've spent the time make the video I long wanted to make.
The very very long video, which tells, among other things, tells the rather funny story behind the viral video "A new level of Archery"
Shadiversity has helped me with this very long video asking a lot of critical questions.
"A new level of Archery" is by far the most discussed archery video ever, no wonder ! when so much was told in such a short time, and much was very controversial without the time for proper explanation.
This long video also allows me to thoroughly explain what I think about archery today about:
Why Historical fast shooting
Powerful bow
The bias we all have from modern archery
Why trick shooting was once a necessary part of archery
Safety
etc. ...
Many have helped with this video.:
Shad M. Brooks
Mihai Cozmei
Claus raasted
Nicoline Mondrup
Anders Hovgaard Møller
Jørgen Philipp
Ida Kirstine Stubbe
Ronny Thillemann Hansen
Gudmund Thai Moltsen
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
I was going to make a fun Halloween video
and Zombie Apocalypse is really funny, I thought.
Many are writing funny comments about the Zombie Apocalypse team on my video.
And although I actually liked Zombi movies and books
then the whole concept of totally stupid and slow zombies
is actually very little dangerous.
I got my blacksmith to make some oversized 4" cutting arrows, razor sharp!!
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
Archery precision trick shooting, never done before.
I am trying to break the limit of what is possible in archery, this is the first video, with a new collection of some of the new things I have learned since I last made videos.
Some shots were hard to execute, some only required a single shot.
Remember I have spent crazy many many hours for many years of archery and then impossible things become possible.
Why do trick archery ??
Trick archery was once a natural part of many historical archery traditions, because war archers trained various variations, as one does with all other weapons.
There really are many different options in archery, and no "real" archery
I think:
If you choose, just one type of archery,
then you miss out a lot of fun !!
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
It is historically described that you can place projectiles at the end of the arrow,
And when the arrow is fixed on the string, the projectile fly forward.
It is best if the string height is large and it also works best if the projectile is heavier than the arrow.
Warning!!! shooting with projectiles can cause damage to some bows (I destroyed a 50 pound bow while I was experimenting)
The Zombi target is just an excuse to shoot pens because it's incredibly fun!!
Surprisingly raw eggs fly far and precisely,
I had no problems with heavy bow that I would otherwise have thought to break the eggs.
(All historical descriptions are from the book Arab Archery, describing shooting darts, metal balls, caltrop, eggs and flammable eggs www.archerylibrary.com/books/faris-elmer/arab-archery/docs/xliv-4.html)
Sincerely
Lars Andersen 2019
A friend of mine said he needed a expensive new 2018 bow
to become a better archer!!
The next day I went to a building shop and bought a stick and a string and the following weeks I only did archery with my 7 dollar bow.
Too low power, vibrate, bad to hold etc ..
I love my various good bows, old advanced materials but also modern carbon and I think Holless Wilbur Allen invention of the compound bow is an genius invention for archery.
But it's definitely an educational experience to try archery with bad equipment and only dependent on own archery skills.
It is of course more difficult to shoot with a bad bow
(Beginning must definitely use a good bow)
Afterwards it was amazing to shoot with my normal good bows.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen
The upcoming Robin Hood movie starring Taron Egerton has been underway for some years now. For me, the journey started in 2015, when Otto Bathurst, the director of the movie, traveled to Denmark to get instruction in the art of historical archery.
I’ve since trained several of the actors in the film, and a couple of them became very good with the bow and arrow. Taron, who plays Robin Hood, might not be able to shoot as well as the legendary archer, but he’s not too far behind.
During the process, I was fortunate enough to be allowed to develop some of the archery tricks that are seen in the movie - something which I’m both proud of, and humbled by.
Together with the researcher Bede Dwyer (the person I know with the most comprehensive knowledge about archery) and Nick “Bigbowbrum” Birmingham, I got the opportunity to influence how archery was portrayed in the film.
(youtu.be/bjGN1Yp42vE) video where Nick Birmingham tells of the long longbow draw)
In order to train the actors, I needed a whole new training system. Taron Egerton especially proved to be a challenge here, since I needed to train him to be able to do amazing shots himself right from the start. The saying was “The less CGI arrows the better”.
Taron worked hard over the course of 2016-2017 to be able to play the part of this “historic super archer”. From the very beginning I had hoped it would be possible to teach him how to shoot incredibly fast, since speed is an essential component of several of the historic archery “expert” systems.
I have made a page about the three historical texts, that allow us to do calculations on speed here: http://23.dk/9historiskehastighed.html
As I wanted to document this process, I’ve put together two videos - one that’s fast and dirty and to the point, and the other (much longer!), where we get to geek out and get technical and nerdy about historical archery.
Obviously, even a Hollywood movie has its limitations on budget and what’s possible, but in the end, a lot of what we wanted to do, ended up in the final film.
I hope you’ll enjoy watching this behind-the-scenes footage as much as I enjoyed being there for the making of it.
FINAL WORDS
Thank you for watching my videos and for reading.
I will remove rude and dumb comments.
I will also remove dumb “archery experts” comments.
Lars Andersen 2018
Usually movie archery is a combination of computer animation and limited knowledge about historical archery, the new Robin Hood movie is different!!
The upcoming Robin Hood movie starring Taron Egerton has been underway for some years now. For me, the journey started in 2015, when Otto Bathurst, the director of the movie, traveled to Denmark to get instruction in the art of historical archery.
I’ve since trained several of the actors in the film, and a couple of them became very good with the bow and arrow. Taron, who plays Robin Hood, might not be able to shoot as well as the legendary archer, but he’s not too far behind.
During the process, I was fortunate enough to be allowed to develop some of the archery tricks that are seen in the movie - something which I’m both proud of, and humbled by.
Together with the researcher Bede Dwyer (the person I know with the most comprehensive knowledge about archery) and Nick “Bigbowbrum” Birmingham, I got the opportunity to influence how archery was portrayed in the film.
In order to train the actors, I needed a whole new training system. Taron Egerton especially proved to be a challenge here, since I needed to train him to be able to do amazing shots himself right from the start. The saying was “The less CGI arrows the better”.
Taron worked hard over the course of 2016-2017 to be able to play the part of this “historic super archer”. From the very beginning I had hoped it would be possible to teach him how to shoot incredibly fast, since speed is an essential component of several of the historic archery “expert” systems.
I have made a page about the three historical texts, that allow us to do calculations on speed here: http://23.dk/9historiskehastighed.html
As I wanted to document this process, I’ve put together two videos - one that’s fast and dirty and to the point, and the other (much longer!), where we get to geek out and get technical and nerdy about historical archery.
Obviously, even a Hollywood movie has its limitations on budget and what’s possible, but in the end, a lot of what we wanted to do, ended up in the final film.
I hope you’ll enjoy watching this behind-the-scenes footage as much as I enjoyed being there for the making of it.
FINAL WORDS
Thank you for watching my videos and for reading.
I will remove rude and dumb comments.
I will also remove dumb “archery experts” comments.
Lars Andersen 2018
Long before I started with trick archery was the impressive American archer Byron Ferguson .
He has hit very small target
Has hit target blindfolded
And hit target with his feet
Just for fun I would try it all at once
A small bell 13 mm
Blindfolded
Bow held with feet
I thought it was almost impossible
but surprisingly it only took 5 minutes to film.
A very lucky shot.
It could be filmed better and in good slow motion.
But I got the idea and immediately put up a camera
just to see if it was possible.
Made a few try throws
and then I hit (it was seen by others)
So I do not want to make a better version!
The bow used in this video Grózer 49 # 28 "
Music:
"Christmas rap" Kevin MacLeod
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Lars Andersen
There is no "real" archery today, just what people choose to do.
I've made this video because many have thought it's harder or impossible to learn, more "advanced" archery than modern static target plate archery.
My experience is that it is actually easier to learn dynamic archery on moving target.
But the important thing is to choose the type of archery that you think is most suitable for you.
I have trained many people and it has taken a long time and been difficult, but few years ago I began to change everything.
I started training in a way so it was completely instinctive, so everything is done without thinking but completely corporeal.
I have gradually experimented with beginners, to find the fastest and funniest way to learn archery.
The two participate in the video are chosen because they are both very talented, but everyone can learn archery fast.
Equipment:
These bows are a special edition of Faco Storm.
Falco has made them for me for beginners training, they are between 20 and 30 pounds
(if they are more powerful, beginners get broken fingers)
It is easier to hit with a stronger bow, but better to learn with a weak bow.
Comments:
I remove all rud comments
And in this video I certainly also remove sexistic comments
Finally I remove negative comments from people who pretend to be archery experts without being this.
Sincerely
Lars Andersen


