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Did you know that the Seattle Public Library offers any U.S. resident a “Books Unbanned Card,” which allows you to check out banned audiobooks, no matter where you live? This is just one example of how people are resisting new restrictions on information and education across the country. In his new book, Teach Truth, Seattle educator and author Jesse Hagopian discusses these restrictions and offers advice on how to defend antiracist education.
Hagopian outlines how numerous states and school districts in recent years have enacted policies or laws mandating how to teach about systemic racism and oppression—policies that impact nearly half of all students in the U.S. Thousands of books have been banned from schools. Teachers face termination, attacks, and disciplinary action. You can be punished, including jail time, for providing access to a banned book. These new changes have old roots in McCarthyism’s Red Scare and Lavender Scare. They have strongholds in U.S. history.
But there is also strong pushback. Hagopian shows how the fight against them also has a rich legacy, from the resistance to anti-literacy laws for enslaved people to the Black Lives Matter at School movement today. Hagopian calls to defend antiracist education, showing how to reclaim suppressed history by creating beloved classroom communities and healthy social movements.
Jesse Hagopian has taught in public schools for over 20 years, serves on the Black Lives Matter at School steering committee, organizes for the Zinn Education Project, and founded the Ethnic Studies course at Seattle’s Garfield High School. He is an editor for Rethinking Schools magazine, the co-editor of Black Lives Matter at School and Teaching for Black Lives, and the editor of More Than a Score: The New Uprising Against High Stakes Testing.
Dr. Ayva Thomas is a P-12 education and systems leader in and beyond her local community. She has been a speaker, panelist, and thought partner for events like the Zinn Education Project’s Teaching for Black Lives campaign, the City of Bothell’s DEI work, and the City of Kenmore’s Juneteenth Celebration.
Wayne Au is Dean and Professor in the University of Washington Bothell School of Educational Studies, and he is an editor for the social justice teaching magazine, Rethinking Schools. A former public high school teacher, he writes and speaks about racial justice in education. Au’s most recent book is Asian American Racialization and the Politics of U.S. Education.
Presented by Town Hall Seattle and Seattle Public Library.
TimestampsTimestamps
0:00 Introductions and speaker bios
1:20 Dr. Ayva Thomas
7:54 Janelle Gary bio
8:55 Janelle Gary
14:20 Geo (Prometheus Brown) bio
15:25 Geo (Prometheus Brown)
21:05 Jesse Hagopian
58:02 Conversation with Jesse Hagopian and Wayne Au
1:13:00 Audience Q&A
The audio in this broadcast was unfortunately corrupted. Please click the following link to watch the backup broadcast with clean audio: youtube.com/live/llANIb0LUNs
Did you know that the Seattle Public Library offers any U.S. resident a “Books Unbanned Card,” which allows you to check out banned audiobooks, no matter where you live? This is just one example of how people are resisting new restrictions on information and education across the country. In his new book, Teach Truth, Seattle educator and author Jesse Hagopian discusses these restrictions and offers advice on how to defend antiracist education.
Hagopian outlines how numerous states and school districts in recent years have enacted policies or laws mandating how to teach about systemic racism and oppression—policies that impact nearly half of all students in the U.S. Thousands of books have been banned from schools. Teachers face termination, attacks, and disciplinary action. You can be punished, including jail time, for providing access to a banned book. These new changes have old roots in McCarthyism’s Red Scare and Lavender Scare. They have strongholds in U.S. history.
But there is also strong pushback. Hagopian shows how the fight against them also has a rich legacy, from the resistance to anti-literacy laws for enslaved people to the Black Lives Matter at School movement today. Hagopian calls to defend antiracist education, showing how to reclaim suppressed history by creating beloved classroom communities and healthy social movements.
Jesse Hagopian has taught in public schools for over 20 years, serves on the Black Lives Matter at School steering committee, organizes for the Zinn Education Project, and founded the Ethnic Studies course at Seattle’s Garfield High School. He is an editor for Rethinking Schools magazine, the co-editor of Black Lives Matter at School and Teaching for Black Lives, and the editor of More Than a Score: The New Uprising Against High Stakes Testing.
Dr. Ayva Thomas is a P-12 education and systems leader in and beyond her local community. She has been a speaker, panelist, and thought partner for events like the Zinn Education Project’s Teaching for Black Lives campaign, the City of Bothell’s DEI work, and the City of Kenmore’s Juneteenth Celebration.
Wayne Au is Dean and Professor in the University of Washington Bothell School of Educational Studies, and he is an editor for the social justice teaching magazine, Rethinking Schools. A former public high school teacher, he writes and speaks about racial justice in education. Au’s most recent book is Asian American Racialization and the Politics of U.S. Education.
Presented by Town Hall Seattle and Seattle Public Library.
TimestampsTimestamps
0:00 Introductions and speaker bios
1:20 Dr. Ayva Thomas
7:54 Janelle Gary bio
8:55 Janelle Gary
14:20 Geo (Prometheus Brown) bio
15:25 Geo (Prometheus Brown)
21:05 Jesse Hagopian
58:02 Conversation with Jesse Hagopian and Wayne Au
1:13:00 Audience Q&A
