John Vervaeke
Psyche pathology and Well being 1 - The Cognitive Science Show
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Link to first video in the series: youtube.com/watch?v=7t9aQuj3n0o&t=251s
What does it mean to truly transcend the ego and embrace a transpersonal state of being?
In this episode of “Voices with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke and Vivian Dittmar thoughtfully explore enlightenment, viewing it not as a final destination but as an ongoing journey of maturation and integration. They challenge conventional perspectives on enlightenment, proposing a more dynamic interplay between personal growth and spiritual awakening. By examining the delicate balance required to maintain higher states of consciousness while cultivating a healthy personal self, they illuminate the complexities of spiritual bypassing and the necessity of embracing imperfection. Their conversation explores the importance of aligning inner and outer worlds, the role of synchronicity, and the transformative power of confronting our own mortality. Join them as they unravel these intricate themes with intellectual rigor, poetic insight, and a commitment to deepening our understanding of what it means to lead a truly awakened life.
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00:00 Introduction: Exploring Transpersonal and Transegoic States
02:10 Navigating the Spectrum of Egoic and Transrational Consciousness
07:20 Beyond the Social Conscience: Discovering the Voice of the Soul
12:35 Exploring the Implicate Order and Transrational Ways of Knowing
19:00 Redefining Spiritual Awakening and the Mythology Surrounding It
23:25 Bridging the Gap between Inner and Outer Worlds through Wisdom and Virtue
32:20 Cultivating a Healthy Personal Self after Enlightenment
43:45 Beyond Spiritual Bypassing and the Pursuit of Perfection in the Journey Towards Wholeness
57:00 Facing Mortality: A Journey Towards Wholeness and Maturity
01:18:00 Conclusion: Reflections on Convergence, Gratitude, and the Quest for True Prosperity
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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
The Death of Ivan Ilyich, by Leo Tolstoy
David Bohm
Plato
Carl Jung
Leo Tolstoy
Spinoza
Fallible Man, by Paul Ricoeur
Relevant Episodes
Exploring the Transrational: A Journey into the Realms of Consciousness with Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=KSObTcQ6_Bg
Exploring Emotions and Transrational Wisdom with Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=IQWLfOFe0lo
Wisdom Through the Imaginal: IFS Insights with Seth Allison Part 3 youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVr7R3LOJk&t=198s
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Pascal Layman is a philosopher based in Northern Ontario, known for his groundbreaking work on the metaphysics of adjacency, the coaxial stages model, and metaprogressive politics.
Bruce Alderman is an accomplished musician, visual artist, and deep meditation practitioner. He is the producer of The Integral Stage podcast and the organizer of the Blue Sky Leadership Program at the California Institute for Integral Studies.
Does the universe hold inherent mystery, or is our scientific understanding merely inadequate?
In this episode of The Cognitive Science Show, John Vervaeke and Gregg Henriques are joined by Layman Pascal and Bruce Alderman to reflect on the Transcendent Naturalism series and explore its potential for fostering collective transcendence. The discussion covers a range of topics, including the importance of ethical and relational dimensions in our understanding of the world, the role of art and meaning-making in a meta-modern context, and the layered ontology of nature. Join us to explore this fascinating approach to understanding how transcendent naturalism can shed light on our world and guide us toward a deeper sense of purpose.
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“IPS (Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality) wants to leave room for the interplay of transcendence and immanence, but without needing to posit an unthinkable outside to reality. It's in strong accord with transcendent naturalism in this regard." - Bruce Alderman [08:37]
"John's proposed simple move to arrive at an extended naturalism, getting science to more explicitly accept what it already presupposes, is genius. There's much more that could be said about that, but my simple response is bravo." - Bruce Alderman [08:49]
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0:00 - Introduction: Series Finale and Overview of Transcendent Naturalism Series
4:00 - Integral Post-Metaphysical Spirituality and its Flexible Nature
14:10 - Influential Theories and Thinkers: Integrating Cognitive Science, Philosophy, and Transcendence
24:20 - Flexible Metaphysics and the Layered Ontology of Transcendent Naturalism
32:50 - Theology, Art, and Literature: Navigating the AGI and Meaning Crisis
39:20 - Participatory Spiritual Practices and Metaphysical Rituals
45:20 - Strong Transcendence with Preeminent Imminence
53:40 - The Role of Art and Narrative in Transcendent Naturalism
57:00 - Cultivating a Transformative Curriculum: Reimagining Institutional Roles in Spiritual Growth
1:10:20 - Conclusion: Culminating Thoughts and Future Pathways
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How can ancient faith traditions adapt to the complexities of the modern world?
In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, John Vervaeke and Brendan Graham Dempsey explore the potential for metamodern spirituality to breathe new life into the Christian faith. Dempsey shares his transformative journey from traditional beliefs to a metamodern perspective that integrates ancient doctrines with contemporary thought. Their discussion addresses challenging issues such as historical and postmodern critiques of the Bible, the complex relationship between faith and science, and the psychological underpinnings of religious practices. This conversation aims to rejuvenate our understanding of Christianity and enrich our engagement with reality, setting the stage for future dialogues on the essence of God and the sacred.
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"I'm interested in the ways that spirituality begins to dovetail with the sciences, where that antagonism many of us are familiar with is transcended and healed in a profound way." - Brendan Graham Dempsey [00:04:00]
"We need the language of explaining because the language of explaining is the language of science. If we don't have a properly cultivated language of explaining, the gulf between spirituality and science will remain. That is one of the significant drivers of the meaning crisis." - John Vervaeke [00:15:33]
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0:00 Introduction: Brendan's Christian Roots and Academic Journey
06:20 Modern and Postmodern Biblical Critiques
10:15 Metamodern Christianity and Its Challenges
13:40 Training vs. Explaining in Religious Contexts
20:45 Bridging Historical Jesus and Imaginal Christ
43:05 Faith, Maturation, and the Interplay of Training and Explanation
51:50 Imaginal Recovery and Theological Continuity
01:02:45 Navigating Order and Chaos: Spiritual Growth Dynamics
01:27:30 Conclusion: Exploring the Numinous - God, Sacredness, and Ultimate Reality
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The Meaning of Meaning | Transcendent Naturalism #7 youtube.com/watch?v=dYdosNIsWvE
The Future of Faith | Transcendent Naturalism #8 youtube.com/watch?v=eqoYk3BgeF4
Unlocking the Mysteries of Meaning: An Intellectual Odyssey youtube.com/watch?v=7gI0MgKpokM
The Artful Scaling of the Religion that is not a religion w/ Layman Pascal & Brendan Graham Dempsey
youtube.com/watch?v=rAnLbaFHYWQ
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Ideas, Authors, and Works Mentioned in This Episode:
Metamodernism
Transcendent Naturalism
Jesus of Nazareth
Biblical Studies
Postmodern Critiques
Nietzsche
Foucault
Derrida
Spinoza
Plato
Xenophon
Aristophanes
Solon
Aristotle
Henry IV, V, and IV (Shakespeare)
Shakespeare’s early works
Plato's Socrates
H.G. Gadamer
T.S. Eliot
J.R.R. Tolkien
C.S. Lewis
G.W.F. Hegel
J.L. Schellenberg
J.Campbell
C.Jung
Jordan Peterson
Jared Morningstar
Dr. Johannes A. Niederhauser (Halkyon Academy)
J.A.S. Kelso
Paul (Apostle)
Brian McLaren
D.C. Schindler
Paul Vander Klay
The Language of Coaching by Nick Winkelman
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Bonnita Roy is the founder of Alderlore Insight Center, a non-profit educational organization and the curator of The POP-UP School, an online learning community exploring new ways of thinking and acting.
Alexander Bard is a philosopher and futurist specializing in the relationship between humanity and technology, with a profound interest in psychoanalysis and anthropology to understand the impact of technological change on interpersonal relationships.
What drives our social connections and sense of belonging? Recorded live at UTOK Consilience Conference 2024, this episode features Gregg Henriques, Alexander Bard, Bonnitta Roy, and John Vervaeke examining the convergences and fault lines between transcendent naturalism and emergentism and the profound implications these theories have on our understanding of reality. By critiquing materialism, idealism, and dualism, the panel advocates for a new 21st-century philosophical framework that integrates Eastern and Western insights, emphasizing relationalism and dialectical thinking. Enriched with references to thinkers like Hegel, Whitehead, Nietzsche, and Deleuze, this dialogue explores the roles of cognitive science, spirituality, and community practices. Join this journey to uncover the essence of ultimate reality and the transformative potential of sacredness while underscoring the importance of humility, love, and pragmatic approaches to contemporary challenges.
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00:00 Introduction: Setting the Stage for Transcendent Naturalism and Emergentism
03:30 John Vervaeke: Outline of Transcendent Naturalism
19:45 Bonnitta Roy's Perspective on Naturalism and Stratified Reality
32:00 Alexander Bard on the Necessity of Metaphysics and Transcendent Emergentism
48:00 Group Dialogue on UTOC Framework and Integrating Perspectives
01:11:00 Exploring Zoofism and the Philosophical Silk Road
01:18:45 Q&A: Integrating Transcendental Emergentism with Science and Philosophy
01:31:10 Alexander Bard on Integrating Hegel with Modern Thinkers
01:33:50 Ontology of Pure Relationality and the Future of Digital Networks and Decentralization
01:40:05 Stability, Relational Thinking, and Dynamic Systems
01:43:30 Final Thoughts and Reflections: Convergences and Future Directions
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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Evan Thompson
Adam Frank
Marcelo Gleiser
James Blachowicz
Alicia Juarrero
Wolfgang Smith
Aspects of Truth: A New Religious Metaphysics by Catherine Pickstock
Willard Van Orman Quine
Hilary Putnam
Quine-Duhem
Immanuel Kant
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
James J. Gibson
Martin Heidegger
James Filler
Kyoto School
John L. Schellenberg
Roy Bhaskar
Sabine Hossenfelder
Eric Weinstein
Alfred North Whitehead
Friedrich Nietzsche
Henri Bergson
Dan Chiappe
Matt Segall
Bruno Latour
Diana Fosha
Gilles Deleuze
Process and Event by Alexander Bard and Jan Söderqvist
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Rachel Hayden is a magpie of the Liminal Web, and occasional collaborator with people like John, Gregg Henriques, and Alexander Bard. Her background includes somatics, meditative and contemplative practice, and peer-based mental health
How can we heal and transform ourselves through embodied practices and the relational field? In this episode of Voices with Vervaeke, Tataya Bailey and Rachel Hayden join John Vervaeke to explore the transformative power of relational practices on personal growth and healing. They delve into the balance between structure and spontaneity, discuss handling trauma, and emphasize the significance of attention and attunement in fostering authentic connections. This episode highlights the beauty of human connection and the endless possibilities for transformation.
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"I discovered capacities in me that I didn't even know I had." - Tataya Bailey [00:06:30]
"The experiences ranged from incredibly profound and bequeathing of a new dharma for me, all the way to working through shadow stuff, having alternate childhood experiences, and working through archetypal symbolism and tribal imagery between people. It was all like welcome there, and it was all material for that relationality, which I found so beautiful and so accessible to me." - Rachel Hayden [00:12:00]
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00:00 Introduction: Exploring Relational Practices
08:35 Rachel’s Prisma Experience: Embracing Vulnerability and Transformation
13:45 The Structure and Values of Prisma: Balancing Spontaneity and Containment
21:10 How Prisma Unlocks Relational Potential: Recovering Lost Parts and Deepening Connection
40:05 Attention and Attunement: Harmonizing Individuation and Participation
43:50 The Musicality of Relational Practices: The Dance of Metaphors and Sacred Rituals
50:50 Navigating Trauma and Safety in Relational Work
01:00:00 Embracing Discomfort: The Journey from Propositional to Participatory Connection
01:04:50 Re-exaptation and the Imaginal: The Role of Aporia in Transformative Practices
01:12:10 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations
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Ideas, Authors, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Alanja Forsberg - Avalon Community
Alexander Bard
Seth Allison - IFS
James Carse - Infinite Game
Andrew Huberman
Kerry Ressler
Robert Kegan
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Are we on the brink of a new era of enlightenment or facing the rise of an existential threat? In this episode, John Vervaeke and Mahon McCann delve into the intricate relationship between artificial intelligence and the human search for meaning. They explore the potential of AI to act as a tool for personal and collective transformation, but also examine the challenges of creating AI that truly understands and respects our values. From predictive processing and relevance realization to Plato's cave allegory, this episode offers a fascinating exploration of the intersection between AI and human consciousness.
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"Attention is like a spotlight you shine on things. When you shine your attention on them, they stand out and keep your attention." - John Vervaeke [00:02:12]
“So much of this first generation of AI is an environment, the large scale curation algorithms of social media are what's organizing our experience online. It's not a human being, but it's playing this role of orchestrating a lot of our experience and people's development. And so creating an optimal AI or an optimal environment would be trying to foster optimal agency, optimal meaning, which is really optimal wellbeing as well.” -Mahon McCann [00:38:23]
“I think part of steeling the culture is to get the people within the AI industry [to] drop the sorcerer myth. Drop it. Disidentify with it. Take up the sage mythology. Take that up. That is the way we can do what you want, but in a way that isn't going to set us on a path to destruction. -John Vervaeke [00:59:16]
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0:00 Introduction to AI Alignment and the Meaning Crisis
1:00 Predictive Processing and Relevance Realization
2:00 Beyond the Spotlight Metaphor: New Models of Attention
6:30 Integrating Predictive Processing with Relevance Realization
23:00 Agency, Meaning, and the Self-Organizing Mind
29:20 Autopoiesis, Agency, and Plato's Insights
31:25 Predictive Processing, Motivation, Vertical Alignment, and Horizontal Anticipation
35:05 Optimal Agency, Collective Intelligence, and Persuasive Technologies
37:40 AI as Agents vs. AI as Environment
39:45 The Challenge of Aligning AI with Human Flourishing
53:15 Creating a New Sacredness in the Digital Age
59:44 Concluding Thoughts on Navigating AI Development: Embracing Choice Points, Wisdom, and Foresight for a Collectively Beneficial Future
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Ideas, Authors, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Predictive processing and relevance realization: exploring convergent solutions to the frame problem - Brett Andersen, Mark Miller, John Vervaeke
Ken Lowry
D.C. Schindler
Jonathan Pageau
Mark Miller
Rick Repetti
Attention Is Cognitive Unison: An Essay in Philosophical Psychology - Christopher Mole
Feature-integration theory of attention - Anne Treisman
Metaphors We Live By - George Lakoff and Mark Johnson
Attention Metaphors: How Metaphors Guide the Cognitive Psychology of Attention - Diego Fernandez-Duque, Mark Johnson
William James
Andy Clark
Phenomenology of Perception - Maurice Merleau-Ponty
Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience - Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
Lev Vygotsky
The Republic - Plato
Theory of motivation
Mentoring the Machines - John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne
Free-Energy Minimising Agents and Beneficial A.I.: Ambient Smart Environments, Allostasis, and Metacognitive Control - Ben White and Mark Miller
Tristan Harris
Heidegger
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The Crossroads of Predictive Processing and Relevance Realization | Leiden Symposium - youtube.com/watch?v=51wcY39ouGs
AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist - youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth&index=1
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Andrew Sweeny is an educator, writer, musician, and podcaster who currently teaches at Sciences Po University in Paris and serves as an editor at Parallax magazine.
Christopher Mastropietro is a philosophical writer who is fascinated by dialogue, symbols, and the concept of self. He actively contributes to the Vervaeke Foundation.
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Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis
Nothingness Beyond God: An Introduction to the Philosophy of Nishida Kitaro, by Robert Edgar Carter
Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis, co-authored by Christopher Mastropietro
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being, by James Filler
Iain McGilchrist
Daniel Schmachtenberger
Bishop Maximus
Paul Vander Klay
T.S. Eliot
Jordan Peterson
Sallie McFague
Richard Dawkins
Carl Jung
Søren Kierkegaard
Jacob Howland
Douglas Hedley
Jordan Hall
“The more people I'm talking to—high caliber, high quality people in this whole arena—the advent of the sacred as a response to the meaning crisis is a growing theme. I have found myself more and more called into service to doing whatever I can to afford the advent of that.” - John Vervaeke [00:02:00]
"Nobody lives on the Silk Road; people move along it." - John Vervaeke [00:03:37]
"The idea of the Silk Road, to me, is that the wandering, and the traveling, and the encountering different influences, and the metabolizing of a lingua philosophica helps to create a space within oneself into which that inward process can pour itself, discover itself, and metabolize itself." - Christopher Mastropietro [00:10:57]
“The more I engage with this work, the more I realize that so much of the dawning consciousness of our encounter with the sacred is ultimately a process that happens to us. It occurs to us. We can bring consciousness to bear on it, and augment it, and make space for it, and inquire within it in such a way as to invite it.” - Christopher Mastropietro [00:11:23]
0:00 Embracing the Philosophical Silk Road: From Top-Down Religion to an Organic Spiritual Path
17:00 On the Philosophical Silk Road: An Interfaith Journey, Personal Transformation, and Confronting Idolatry
28:30 Beyond the Culture War: Embracing Authentic Dialogue and the Embodiment of Beliefs
35:40 The Unresolvable Dialogue: Embracing the Infinite Game Between Socrates and Jesus
44:10 Rediscovering the Essence of Faith: Beyond Doctrine to Personal Transformation
56:00 The Wildness of the Sacred: Recognizing and Integrating Spontaneous Spiritual Experiences
1:02:50 Philosophical and Sacred Synergies: Bridging the Divide through Love and Wisdom
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Can cognitive science, philosophy, and mysticism hold the keys to resolving our modern meaning crisis?
Join John Vervaeke and Evan Thompson in a captivating exploration of how these disciplines converge to address this pressing issue. The conversation showcases Thompson's interdisciplinary approach, drawing from his work on 'The Blind Spot' and his extensive background in Asian philosophy and phenomenology. Gain fresh perspectives on the essence of lived experience, the power of relevance realization, and the nature of reality as the discussion unfolds. Prepare for an intellectual journey that promises to deepen our understanding of truth, goodness, and beauty and bridge the gaps between diverse intellectual traditions.
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Immerse yourself in the groundbreaking insights of Evan Thompson's thought-provoking book, "The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience.” amazon.com/Blind-Spot-Science-Cannot-Experience/dp/0262048809
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“"The blind spot is the inability to see, or to recognize, or to acknowledge that lived experience is the source of science. And so if you undercut the source of science by occluding lived experience, you're actually damaging science." - Evan Thompson [00:19:34]
"The process of formalization of translating things into a formal system is always an ill-defined problem that requires relevance realization." - John Vervaeke [00:30:52]
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00:00 Introduction to Evan Thompson and 'The Blind Spot'
01:05 Evan Thompson's Background and Philosophical Journey
02:10 Diving Into 'The Blind Spot': A Book on the Meaning Crisis
09:30 Exploring Core Ideas and Arguments of 'The Blind Spot'
18:15 Addressing the Meaning Crisis: Science, Experience, and Reality
18:55 Navigating Between Science Triumphalism and Denial
21:30 The Role of Experience in Understanding Reality
31:25 Challenging the Bifurcation of Nature and the 'View from Nowhere'
38:45 Sacredness, Reality, and the Meaning Crisis
40:30 Exploring the Sacred Beyond Science
41:55 Exploring the Depths of the Sacred and Ultimate Concern: Secular vs. Transcendental Perspectives
47:45 The Axial Revolution and Its Impact on Modern Consciousness
56:45 Challenges and Opportunities in Bridging Science and Mysticism
59:54 Philosophical Reflections on Truth, Beauty, and the Good
01:11:10 Concluding Thoughts and Future Dialogues
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Idea, Authors, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - book co-authored by Evan Thompson, Adam Frank, and Marcelo Gleiser
Waking, Dreaming, Being: Self and Consciousness in Neuroscience, Meditation, and Philosophy - book by Evan Thompson
Why I Am Not a Buddhist - book by Evan Thompson
Contact with Reality - book by Esther Lightcap Meek
The Nothingness Beyond God - book by Robert Edgar Carter
Maurice Merleau-Ponty
Edmund Husserl
Martin Heidegger
William James
Galileo Galilei
Nishida Kitaro
Alfred North Whitehead
Nancy Cartwright
René Descartes
Robert Kreese
Paul Tillich
Michael Polanyi
Michael Schellenberger
Susan Wolf
Ursula Goodenough
Immanuel Kant
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In a world that often trivializes love and deep connections, how can we cultivate a life of wisdom, virtue, and transcendence amidst our finite existence and growing polarization?
Join John Vervaeke and Elizabeth Oldfield in a profound dialogue that explores these critical themes of human existence, drawing from Platonic to Christian thought and emphasizing the transformative power of dialogical reasoning, cognitive flexibility, and awe. Elizabeth Oldfield shares insights from her book 'Fully Alive,' an Augustinian blend of autobiographical confession and psycho-spiritual reflection that highlights relational living and the transformative power of love. The conversation addresses the trivialization of love in modern culture and advocates for a deeper understanding while navigating the complexities of polarization in politics, the comparison between psychedelic and spiritual experiences, and the intrinsic value of community and wisdom traditions in achieving a virtuous life. Discover the necessity of grounding transformative experiences in communal practices for genuine personal and societal transformation in this thought-provoking discussion.
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Discover a profound exploration of love, wisdom, and the human soul in Elizabeth Oldfield's upcoming book, "Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times." amazon.com/Fully-Alive-Tending-Turbulent-Times/dp/1587436507
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“I can close my eyes now and know myself’s seen, and the deep knowing of the presence of love in my life and the way that every other moment of love, and encounter, and intimacy reflects that is the ground of my being.” - Elizabeth Oldfield [00:32:48]
"Wisdom is about this loving enhancement of our connectedness. The wise person can go into a complex, messy, ill-defined situation and home in on what's relevant, summoning their agency in the right way so that they are properly responsible." - John Vervaeke [00:31:04]
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0:00 Introduction to Voices with Vervaeke: Elizabeth Oldfield'
1:30 Elizabeth Oldfield: Life, Faith, and the Quest for Existential Satisfaction
2:50 Exploring 'Fully Alive': Deep Dialogues on Belonging, Soul, and Existential Satisfaction
6:05 Plato's Insights on the Psyche, Inner Conflict, and the Pursuit of Inner Fullness
10:20 The Quest for Inner Peace, Wisdom, and Understanding Sin
14:20 The Interplay of Love, Wisdom, and the Divine in the Pursuit of Fully Aliveness
27:15 Unpacking the Realization of the Really Real: Connectedness, Love, and Presence
45:50 Identity, Cultural Scripts, and the Tension between Faith and Intellect
47:45 Expanding Our Understanding of Intelligence, Reality, and the Role of Attention
1:00:40 The Challenge of Authentic Love, Reverence, and Awe in a Trivialized World
1:13:10 Reverence, Awe, and the Cultivation of Virtue on the Path to Wisdom
1:22:50 Concluding Reflections on Love, Wisdom, and the Pursuit of Fully Aliveness
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Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
Plato
Freud
Pascal
Dialogos
Kenosis
Thumos
Homo Inconvartis in Se
Plato’s Dialogues
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Have you ever wondered about the impact of our environment on our cognition and ability to connect with others? In this episode of Voice with Vervaeke, John and Kyle explore the integration of dialogical practices within natural settings, the psychological and communal impacts of such practices, and the potential for deep listening to forge powerful, transformative experiences.
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"Memory is about the future. It’s not about the past. Memories reconstruct and reconfigure in powerful, often unconscious ways to improve your ability to foresee in a relevant, realizing manner, the future." - John Vervaeke [25:13]
"Rituals only matter to the degree to which they transfer broadly and deeply into many domains in your life and transfer broadly and deeply into many layers of your psyche." - John Vervaeke [57:27]
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0:00 Rekindling Connections: Dialogue and Nature
4:50 Environmental Impact on Cognition: Embodied Practices and Deep Listening
13:10 Evolutionary Impact of Campfires: Hypnosis, Shared Attention, and Ritual for Cognition and Connectedness
11:00 The Role of Deep Listening in Dialogical Practices
22:50 Ritual and Long-Term Change: Reconstructive Memory and Internalizing Wise Spirit
29:30 The Role of Place and Virtual Reality in Storytelling and Evolutionary Constraints
32:40 Navigating Virtual Technology: Maladaptations and the Importance of Wisdom in Epistemic Vulnerability
41:00 The Evolution of Evolvability
50:00 The Power of Pilgrimage and Serious Play
59:30 Language and Expression of Transformation: Connectivity, Aliveness, and the We Space
1:06:40 Conclusion and Upcoming Opportunities for Embodied Experiences
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Bios and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
Aspasia Karageorge, DCP, is a seasoned clinical psychologist with advanced degrees from the University of Sydney and the University of Otago. She serves as a Research Associate at the Brain and Mind Centre of the University of Sydney, where she focuses on qualitative research in novel mental health interventions and medical education. To explore more about her extensive work and insights, visit her website at aspasiapsychology.com/siapsychology.com or follow her on YouTube at youtube.com/channel/UC3ATJzuK4STHGSuv4m8m_uw . For details on her clinical services and to book consultations, visit her private practice at https://sydneycitypsychology.com.au/.
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Quotes:
"ISTDP stands for Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a therapy developed by Dr. Davanloo in the 60s. Essentially, it views chronic pain as a defense against emotional experience." - Aspasia Karageorge [00:06:00]
"Socialization of pain and how our narrative bias is driving a lot of this... the narrative bias coming from the early childhood experiences, and that providing the bias to what we are thinking, giving us a filter of how we are then relating to these things as we go forward in life." - Terri Dentry [00:38:04]
“Modeling goes deeper in the brain than propositions.” - John Vervaeke [00:59:20]
Glossary of Terms:
ISTDP: Intensive Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy, a form of therapy focusing on emotional experience.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction: Unpacking Emotions, Chronic Pain, and Rationality in Therapy
00:10:00 - Exploring the Socialization of Pain and Emotion's Role
00:15:00 - ISTDP and the Emotional Landscape: Understanding Pain as Emotional Distraction
00:24:20 - Restoring Agency and Emotional Insight: Pathways to Healing in Psychotherapy
00:43:00 - Integrating Therapies: Towards a Holistic Approach to Emotional and Physical Healing
01:07:20 - Conclusion: Embracing Complexity: Transformative Insights from ISTDP Therapy
Join Dr. Vervaeke and Christopher Mastropietro in a LIVE Q&A exploring the Literature of the Meaning Crisis
Bios and Links:
Dr. Brian Keating is the Chancellor’s Distinguished Professor of Physics at UC San Diego, specializing in cosmic microwave background research to explore the universe's origins. An acclaimed writer, his book "Losing the Nobel Prize" is an Amazon Editors' favorite. He excels as a public speaker, inventor, and podcaster. Explore more at his website, briankeating.com follow him on Twitter, twitter.com/DrBrianKeating or watch his insights on YouTube, youtube.com/DrBrianKeating.
Shawn Coyne, creator of Story Grid, brings over three decades of publishing expertise, notably with the Big Five publishers, as an independent publisher, literary agent, and head of Genre Management Inc. Dive into his editing method and explore more at storygrid.com/.
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Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent/dp/1645010821
Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Surviving-Artificially-Intelligent/dp/B0CH25KPD3
John Vervaeke Video Essay: AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8VugvT4VYz52DQHxz6vxhRTHw
Quotes:
"We should really be framing artificial intelligence as a mentoring of intelligent beings who have the capability and potentialities of becoming even perhaps better than we are." - Shawn Coyne [00:05:52]
"It's only when you have genuine intelligence for the actual system or entity itself—an autopoietic system—a system that cares about information because it's taking care of itself in a moment by moment basis. Only then could you have something that would actually care about what's going on—the true, the good, or the beautiful." - John Vervaeke [00:15:05]
Glossary of Terms:
AGI (Artificial General Intelligence): A level of artificial intelligence that can understand, learn, and apply knowledge across a wide range of tasks at a level of competence comparable to or surpassing that of a human.
Relevance Realization: The process by which cognitive beings determine what information is relevant to their goals and what is not.
Autopoiesis: The property of a living system (such as a bacterial cell or a multicellular organism) that allows it to maintain and renew itself.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:02:45 - The Genesis of "Mentoring the Machines"
00:08:50 - AI, Psychology, and the Alignment Problem
00:16:40 - The Evolution of Editing and Publishing in the AI Era
00:21:00 - Bridging Knowledge and Wisdom
00:29:00 - Einstein, Imagination, and AI's Emotional Depth
00:37:30 - Deciphering Consciousness: AI and the Hard Problem
00:44:40 - Educational Evolution: AI, Pedagogy, and the Future of Teaching
00:53:50 - AI's Impact on Personalized Storytelling
00:58:30 - AI, Psychology, and the Future of Psychotherapy
01:04:20 - Conclusion
Guest Bio and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience. If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
Tim Adalin, founder of Voicecraft, explores the intricate dynamics between participation and transformation. His philosophical inquiry spans metaphysics, consciousness, and identity, underpinning Voicecraft's mission to enrich dialogue on complex modern challenges. You can learn more about Tim Adalin through his website, https://www.timadalin.xyz/, follow him on YouTube, youtube.com/channel/UCKeq9IUfzw-QvDKP7N9K8rw and on his Substack, timadalin.substack.com/.
Resources:
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Redefining Healing: The Synergy of Psychedelic Integration and Interprofessional Practice youtube.com/watch?v=5o87S6GtVn8&t=30s
Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch youtube.com/watch?v=Lzug-jtx1PA&t=224s
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926
Quotes:
"This is not something about this immediate moment of chronic pain requiring a healing process. This is a worldview issue that is happening to all of us from the very start." - Terri Dentry [00:14:22]
"We're trying to get away from some of the fundamental ways in which agency is being implicitly understood or misunderstood in regular medical practice, and restore a proper appreciation of agency." - John Vervaeke [00:09:57]
"Partly what this conversation is pointing to is that there's going to be a different kind of tension essentially immediately experienced when entering into a different relational context." - Tim Adalin [01:11:20]
Glossary of Terms:
Synoptic Integration: The integration of diverse perspectives and modalities to achieve a comprehensive understanding and healing approach.
Interprofessional Practice: Collaboration between practitioners from different disciplines for holistic patient care.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction, Research Background, and the "Seeing More" Project
00:03:50 - Transformational Journeys and the Power of Shared Pain, Vulnerability, and Relationality
00:11:36 - Agency and Relationality in Medical Practice
00:17:09 - Embodying the Meaning Crisis: Trauma, Narratives, and the Healing Process
00:28:43 - The Pivot Problem: Balancing Finitude and Transcendence in the Healing Journey
00:34:03 - Criticisms of Therapy and the Need for a Shared Worldview
00:44:12 - Dialogos and the Philosophical Silk Road Project
00:54:05 - The Significance of Dialogical Reasoning in Daily Life and Medical Interactions
01:03:34 - Building Structures for Belonging and Support: Challenges and Solutions
01:12:36 - Conclusion: Interprofessional Clinics and the Complexity of Shared Decision-Making
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"Literature of Meaning Crisis," an upcoming course by John Vervaeke, beckons you into the rich world of literature, unveiling the beauty that lights our quest for meaning. This journey goes beyond plot twists and cliffhangers. John Vervaeke will act as our literary guide, helping us unearth the deeper messages hidden within these narratives. He believes that philosophical arguments alone cannot resolve the meaning crisis; rather, it is the allure of beauty in literature that entices us to embrace wisdom. This beauty bridges the gap between the conceptual and non-conceptual aspects of philosophy, with literary devices such as metaphors, symbols, themes, and narrative structures serving as our guides.
Join us on an 8-week exploration of pivotal works by literary giants like Melville, Conrad, and Dostoevsky, figures who have given voice to the existential struggles of modern individuals and their encounters with the numinous. Each 2-hour session promises enriching lectures and thought-provoking discussions. The course features novels such as "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville, "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad, and "The Death of Ivan Illych" by Leo Tolstoy, culminating in a week dedicated to poetry, including works like "Dover Beach" by Matthew Arnold and "The Second Coming" by William Butler Yeats.
The Literature of Meaning Crisis course will be held every Monday from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. EDT, starting April 29th and concluding July 1st, 2024, with no sessions on June 3rd or June 10th.
Embark on a transformative journey and join John Vervaeke on this exploration into the depths of human meaning. Space is limited—secure your spot today at awakentomeaning.com/courses-training/.
Special Invitation: Don’t miss the opportunity to join John Vervaeke for a live Q&A session on YouTube about the “Literature of Meaning Crisis” course on April 11, 2024, from 1:30-3:00pm EDT. This is your chance to ask questions, gain insights, and connect directly before beginning this transformative exploration.
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Bios and Links:
Gregg Henriques, Ph.D., is a professor of graduate psychology at James Madison University and founder of the Unified Theory of Knowledge unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/. Discover more about Henriques through his website http://www.gregghenriques.com, and follow his insights on Twitter at twitter.com/henriqgx.
Michael Levin, Ph.D., is a distinguished professor and director of the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts University, specializing in developmental biology and biophysics. His pioneering research explores the bioelectric patterns that guide growth and form. Explore Levin's groundbreaking work on his lab's website, drmichaellevin.org and follow his latest discoveries on Twitter at twitter.com/drmichaellevin.
Justin McSweeny is the visionary host of the Idea Cast Interview Series, where he facilitates thought-provoking discussions on a wide array of intellectual topics. Access episodes on his YouTube channel, youtube.com/@ideacastilluminate and connect with him for updates on LinkedIn, linkedin.com/in/justin-mcsweeny-ba69ab162/.
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Transcendent Naturalism Ep. 1 | Dr. John Vervaeke and Gregg Henriques
youtube.com/watch?v=HJey6aLkSxs&t=46s
The Elusive I - Part 1 - The Cognitive Science Show youtube.com/watch?v=_Fnmp6UVafM&t=19s
Levin, M. (2019). The Computational Boundary of a “Self”: Developmental Bioelectricity Drives
Multicellularity and Scale-Free Cognition. Frontiers in Psychology, 10. doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.02688
Vervaeke, J., Lillicrap, T. P., & Richards, B. A. (2009, October 26). Relevance Realization and the Emerging Framework in Cognitive Science. Journal of Logic and Computation. doi.org/10.1093/logcom/exp067
Transformative Experience - L. A. Paul amazon.com/Transformative-Experience-L-Paul/dp/0198777310
Quotes:
"What biology does is assumes that you can't just learn the structure of the past. You have to make problem-solving agents." - Michael Levin [00:39:10]
"When you're modeling the world, you're always, to some degree, modeling yourself; and as you're modeling yourself, you're always, to some degree, modeling the world. The two are interpenetrating." - John Vervaeke [00:16:30]
Glossary of Terms:
Cognitive Light Cone: A conceptual framework used to describe the spatial and temporal limits of an entity's cognition, determining what it can perceive and influence.
Relational Frame Theory (RFT): A theory of human language and cognition that focuses on how humans learn and how language interacts with cognition.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction and the Balance Between Imaginal and Empirical
00:02:00 - Understanding Complexification through Layered Ontology
00:04:30 - The Evolution of Goal-Directed Behavior and Cognitive Light Cones
00:12:30 - Recursive Relevance, Predictive Processing, and Mutual Modeling
00:30:00 - Addressing the Crisis of Meaning through Diverse Intelligence
00:38:00 - Transformative Experiences: Reconstructing Self and Reality
00:52:00 - Rationality, Dialogical Self, and Evolutionary Perspectives
01:16:00 - Conclusion: Interdisciplinary Dialogue and Final Reflections
Guest Bio and Links:
Kasra Mirzaie is a psychotherapist, researcher, and educator with a focus on emotion regulation and developmental psychopathology. Kasra brings a unique perspective to the discussion, combining clinical experience with a deep interest in philosophical psychology and meaning-making processes.
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Wisdom Through the Imaginal: IFS Insights with Seth Allison Part 3 youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVr7R3LOJk&t=198s
Chronic Pain, Trust, and Ethics: A Conversation with Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch youtube.com/watch?v=Lzug-jtx1PA
Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340
Phenomenological Bioethics: Medical Technologies, Human Suffering, and the Meaning of Being Alive - Fredrik Svenaeus amazon.com/Phenomenological-Bioethics-Medical-Technologies-Suffering/dp/1138629960
Thomas Fuchs:
In Defence of the Human Being: Foundational Questions of an Embodied Anthropology amazon.com/Defence-Human-Being-Foundational-Anthropology/dp/0192898191
Ecology of the Brain: The phenomenology and biology of the embodied mind (International Perspectives in Philosophy and Psychiatry) amazon.com/Ecology-Brain-phenomenology-International-Perspectives/dp/0199646880
Somatic Internal Family Systems Therapy: Awareness, Breath, Resonance, Movement, and Touch in Practice--Endorsed by top experts in therapeutic healing modalities - Susan McConnell amazon.com/Practitioners-Guide-Somatic-IFS-Therapy/dp/1623174880
Simurgh: A Journey in Search of the Truth - Azar Aryanpour amazon.com/Simurgh-Journey-Search-Azar-Aryanpour/dp/1414023650
Quotes:
“My take on IFS is that it's actually a model of the living, in self-organizing psyche that is composed of living things. Those interact with each other in a certain qualitative space and relationship that we would call the self.” - Kasra Mirzaie [00:05:09]
“The body is really fundamental to keeping us anchored to the world... if we train the mind to properly listen, it can act as a significant counterbalance to spiritual bypassing and hubristic self-deception." - John Vervaeke, paraphrasing Merleau-Ponty [01:13:45]
Glossary of Terms:
Internal Family Systems (IFS): A therapeutic approach that recognizes and addresses multiple sub-personalities or parts within each individual.
The Imaginal: A concept referring to a creative and transformative space that goes beyond mere imagination, facilitating deep healing and self-discovery.
Chapters:
[00:00:00] - Introduction to Kasra Mirzaie: Insights into Psychotherapy, Research, and IFS
[00:08:18] - Enhancing Self-Awareness: Salience, Perspective-Taking, and the Journey Within
[00:17:38] - Bridging Kant and Vervaeke: Participatory Knowing and the Self in IFS
[00:30:29] - Mythos and Identity: Cultural Echoes and the Role of the Imaginal in Healing
[00:42:43] - IFS and Modern Psychotherapy: Addressing Mental Health and Meaning
[00:53:29] - Socratic Integration in IFS: Bridging Reflection and Healing Within a Pedagogical Framework
[01:07:13] - Addressing Self-Deception in IFS: Integrating Embodiment and Community Feedback
[01:14:42] - Conclusion: Reflecting on IFS, Philosophy, and the Journey Ahead
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Jordan Hall is a technology entrepreneur with several years of experience building disruptive companies. He is interested in philosophy, artificial intelligence, and complex systems and has a background in law. Hall has worked for several technology companies and was the founder and CEO of DivX. He is currently involved in various think tanks and institutes and is focused on upgrading humanity's capacity for thought and action.
Listeners can learn more about Jordan Hall on his YouTube channel, youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ his Medium, medium.com/deep-code, and on Twitter, twitter.com/jgreenhall
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Faith in Dialogue: Exploring Christian Virtues in a Diverse World with Jordan Hall Part 1 youtube.com/watch?v=e-e6_426Uzs
The Religion of Tomorrow | Transcendent Naturalism #11 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall youtube.com/watch?v=JmOmwLWziAc
Practical Eschatology | Transcendent Naturalism #12 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall youtube.com/watch?v=n5UA5jCtGXI
Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley youtube.com/watch?v=PVJztMRSeek&t=307s
The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson
amazon.com/-/he/Adam-Frank/dp/0262048809
The Mind of Whitehead: Adventure in Ideas - Roland Faber amazon.com/Mind-Whitehead-Adventure-Ideas/dp/1666735485
Depths As Yet Unspoken - Roland Faber, Andrew M Davis amazon.com/Depths-Yet-Unspoken-Roland-Faber/dp/1725252619
Hall, J. (2018, November 8). An inquiry concerning science and religion. Medium. medium.com/deep-code/an-inquiry-concerning-science-and-religion-a2998ba1a496
Quotes:
"The scientific worldview requires that you step away from the experiment, observe as an objective fact, and then coordinate with other potential subjects on an increasing precision of your ability to articulate facts about objective reality." - Jordan Hall [00:17:40]
“Understanding faith as belief is inadequate. Trying to understand what science does as just the propositional manipulation of belief is wrong for all kinds of reasons.” - John Vervaeke [00:46:48]
Glossary of Terms:
Meta-Crisis: The complex, interwoven crises threatening global civilization and human flourishing.
Scientific Worldview: The perspective that emphasizes empirical evidence and rational analysis, often overshadowing subjective and experiential knowledge.
Chapters:
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Recap of Dialogos
[00:03:15] - Navigating the Meta-Crisis: Beyond the Scientific Worldview
[00:10:40] - Meta-Crisis, Scientific Worldview, and Christianity's Transformation
[00:19:11] - Dissecting First-Person Experience in a Third-Person Dominated Culture
[00:22:38] - The Influence of Simulated Perception and Cartesian Dualism
[00:32:20] - Bridging Intelligibility, Science, and Spirituality
[00:44:58] - Overcoming Conflicts: Science, Religion, and Propositional Tyranny
[00:59:00] - The Virtue of Humility and the Balance of Finitude and Transcendence
[01:06:00] - Parental Love: Divine Relations and Agency
[01:22:25] - Humility and Embodiment: Towards Communal Being
[01:32:02] - Conclusion: Friendship and Future Conversations
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Guest Bio and Links:
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional medical practices and holistic wellness approaches. With a keen focus on patient empowerment and integrated health solutions, Terri advocates for a healthcare model that values dialogical reasoning and personal journey understanding, aiming to transform patient care into a collaborative, multidimensional experience.
Nathan Kinch, a sociotechnology ethicist, combines personal passion with a decade of experience in leading global transformations, focusing on ethics and trustworthiness within organizations. His work emphasizes aligning practices with core values and fostering environments of trust.
Listeners can learn more about:
Terri Dentry on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/terridentry/.
Nate Kinch at his website, http://www.trustworthyby.design/ on LinkedIn, linkedin.com/in/nathankinch and on his Substack, trustworthy.substack.com
If you’d like to reach out to Terri to share your own personal story or thoughts, please feel free to email her at terri@thinkred.com.au.
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Kinch, N. (2023, December). What's trust got to do with it? The RSA. thersa.org/comment/2023/12/whats-trust-got-to-do-with-it
Kinch, N. (2023, October). Three reasons why AI ethics is struggling. The RSA. thersa.org/comment/2023/10/three-reasons-why-ai-ethics-is-struggling
Sull, D., Sull, C., & Chamberlain, A. (2020). When It Comes to Culture, Does Your Company Walk the Talk? ResearchGate. researchgate.net/publication/343179780_When_It_Comes_to_Culture_Does_Your_Company_Walk_the_Talk.
A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom amazon.com/Spirit-Trust-Reading-Hegels-Phenomenology/dp/0674976819
Quotes:
"My work is defined as sociotechnology ethics. I examine the relationship between our values, various aspects of the civilizational stack, and how we design different technologies. This covers a wide range of areas, including machine learning, AI, synthetic biology, and medical and clinical contexts." - Nate Kinch [00:02:58]
"Part of that journey is very personal, as people must look at how they view their own experiences. We want to help them see how others go through it and learn from their journeys." - Terri Dentry, [00:01:23]
"Thinking of trust primarily as a psychological trait is to fundamentally misunderstand it. " - John Vervaeke [00:16:57]
Glossary of Terms:
Biopsychosocial Model: An approach to healthcare that integrates biological, psychological, and social factors.
Chapters:
[00:00:00] - Overview and Introduction to Guests Terri Dentry and Nate Kinch
[00:04:20] - Navigating the Complex Terrain of Trust, Transformation, and Ethical Re-architecture in Modern Organizations
[00:34:40] - Bridging Dialogues: Empowerment and Understanding in Healthcare and Beyond
[00:48:41] - Nate’s Personal Journey of Healing and Discovery
[01:07:13] - Beyond Healing: Integrating Spirituality and Meaning
[01:18:00] - Concluding Thoughts: Wisdom, Healing, and Collective Insight
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Sam Tideman, an accomplished healthcare data scientist with an MS in Biostatistics, blends his analytical acumen with a passion for theology in his podcast, "Transfigured." The podcast features long-form discussions exploring the identity of Jesus, reflecting Sam's unique intersection of scientific expertise and spiritual inquiry.
Glossary of Terms
Silicon Sages: Hypothetical AI entities that have achieved a state of enlightenment
Molokian Forces: Forces that manipulate and control AI development for their own purposes
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Awakening from the Meaning Crisis youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
Delving into the Frontiers of Artificial General Intelligence with Sam Tideman youtu.be/TxZdwrjM96I?si=jCiREippX66rM-Lx
Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler youtu.be/r3VXcPK7fG8?si=7hLit5JWo_cnFJ9j
AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth
History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps historyofphilosophy.net
Personification: Using the Dialogical Self in Psychotherapy and Counselling - John Rowan amazon.com/Personification-Using-Dialogical-Psychotherapy-Counselling/dp/0415433460
Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340
The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession - Robert Falconer amazon.com/Others-Within-Us-Internal-Possession/dp/B0C12JXVBJ
Quotes
"I want to convey that I am of the firm conviction that my proposal has risks in it. I don't want to pretend that there's some sort of dewy-eyed optimism here. I'm making a proposal that I think is sort of the best that can be made within otherwise hellacious alternatives." - John Vervaeke [00:02:39]
“If you don't put the ability to care about self-deception and motivated self-correction into these machines, they will fall prey to the fact that intelligence is only weakly predictive of rationality.” - John Vervaeke [00:17:47]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction
[00:01:20] - The Possibility of AI Sages and Conjuring AI Demons
[00:04:40] - Thresholds and Decision Points in AI Development
[00:09:20] - Enlightened AI and the True, Good, and Beautiful
[00:13:37] - Preconditions for Helping AI Become More Wise
[00:19:40] - The Importance of Embodiment and Purpose in AI
[00:28:00] - Autopoiesis and Normative Orientation in AI
[00:33:20] - Wisdom as a Niche-independent or Context-dependent Concept
[00:38:20] - Communicating with an Artificial Intelligence
[00:46:20] - Silicon Sages as Great Teachers
[00:50:00] - Trusting the Silicon Sages
[00:56:31] - Preventing Malicious Use of AI and Cult Leaders
[01:05:20] - AI Interaction with Higher Spiritual Beings
[01:14:20] - The Increasing Importance of Theology in the Future
Seth Dellinger is a movement practitioner, embodied dialogue facilitator, and the host of the Move with Seth podcast. He is passionate about cultivating presence, empathy, and meaningful connections through mindful movement and conversation.
Ken Manheimer is a long-time practitioner and coordinator of contact improvisation in Washington, D.C. He is also a computer programmer with a deep interest in the intersection of movement, dialogue, and personal growth. Ken is dedicated to fostering community and exploring the transformative potential of shared experiences.
Glossary of Terms
Ecology of Practices: A framework for understanding the coordinated use of diverse practices to enhance cognitive flexibility and combat self-deception.
Contact Improvisation: A dance practice emphasizing physical interaction and mutual responsiveness without predetermined steps or movements.
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Website: sethdellinger.com
Ken Manheimer:
Website: myriadicity.net
Resources
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Vervaeke, J., & Mastropietro, C. (2021). Dialectic into Dialogos and the Pragmatics of No-thingness in a Time of Crisis. Eidos. A Journal for Philosophy of Culture, 5(2), 58-77. https://eidos.uw.edu.pl/dialectic-into-dialogos-and-the-pragmatics-of-no-thingness-in-a-time-of-crisis/
Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2018). The Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission. Presence: Teleoperators and Virtual Environments, 27(4), 400-409. doi.org/10.1162/pres_a_00337
Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2020). The enactment of shared agency in teams exploring Mars through rovers. Phenomenology and the Cognitive Sciences, 1-25.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-021-09791-6
Chiappe, D., & Vervaeke, J. (2021). Distributed cognition and the experience of presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission. Frontiers in Psychology, 12. doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.689932
East Coast Contact Improv Jam - eastcoastjam.com
Contact Quarterly. (2022, November 5). Magnesium (1972): Official Trailer [Video]. YouTube. youtube.com/watch?v=5gEfVJBhwrQ
Homsher, S., & Humphrey, J. (n.d.). Steve Homsher and Jess Humphrey in a playful contact improvisation [Video]. YouTube
youtube.com/watch?v=OuOmuDF1C5g&t=0s
Quotes
"The basic idea behind the Ecology of Practice is...a way of trying to deal with...our cognition, which isn't just our knowing, it's our entire sense-making apparatus." - John Vervaeke [00:03:20]
"Contact improvisation...it's an experiential thing that you do in a deep way with someone else where neither person is leading." - Ken Manheimer [00:09:14]
"Participatory knowing is the deepest grounding kind of knowing that makes all the other kinds of knowing possible." - John Vervaeke [00:15:00]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction
[00:03:00] - Exploring the Ecology of Practices
[00:09:14] - Contact Improvisation and Participation
[00:23:00] - Merging Verbal and Non-verbal Communication: Integrating Communication Modes
[00:33:00] - Shared Agency and Practice Intimacy
[00:43:00] - The Meaning Crisis and Falling in Love with Being
[00:55:00] - Exploring Rationality Beyond Logic: Insights from Cognitive Science and Buddhism
Eric Orwoll is a Christian Platonist philosopher and the creator of the Understanding Platonism and Aarvoll YouTube channels.
Robert Gray is the creator of The Meditating Philosopher YouTube channel.
Glossary of Terms
Relational Ontology: The philosophical study that posits relations rather than substances as the fundamental constituents of reality.
Neoplatonism: A philosophical system that emphasizes the spiritual and metaphysical aspects of reality, drawing on Plato's ideas.
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Eric Orwoll
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Robert Gray
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YouTUbe: www.youtube.com/@TheMeditatingPhilosopher
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Books, Articles, and Publications
The One as Pure Relation in Plotinus - Filler, James (2019). International Journal of the Platonic Tradition brill.com/view/journals/jpt/13/1/article-p1_1.xml
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler
amazon.com/dp/3031309065
The Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe: A New Kind of Reality Theory - Christopher Langan amazon.com/Cognitive-Theoretic-Model-Universe-Reality-Theory/dp/0971916225
Essential Difference: Toward a Metaphysics of Emergence - James Blachowicz amazon.com/Essential-Difference-Toward-Metaphysics-Emergence/dp/1438443323
Quotes
"It reminded me of the attitude towards language in the Platonic dialogues, where Socrates moves into something more poetic, almost verse. There's that shift between prosaic, dialectical investigation and mytho-poetic, dreamlike exposition. That's interesting; I've identified those mythic sections often contain the deepest insights about the nature of reality." - Eric Orwoll [00:07:06]
"It helped to explain how and why those two are non logically one. That gave me a profound aha. Then, the critique of substance in the Aristotelian sense, where the subject predicate nature of logic and language is the same fundamental structure of reality, reality is made up of independently existing things that contain properties or enter into action." - John Vervaeke [00:16:00]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Grounding Exercise
[00:03:20] - Overview of James Filler's Work
[00:08:20] - Theological Poetic Language and Plato's Ontology
[00:12:40] - Hemispheric Approaches to Reasoning
[00:14:07] - John's Personal and Philosophical Reflections on Filler's Work
[00:20:08] - Dissecting Filler's Arguments: Exegesis and Ontological Inquiry
[00:30:20] - Revisiting Relationality and Unity: Ethical and Ontological Nuances
[00:46:00] - Navigating Reality: From Illusion to Sacredness
[00:52:56] - Tradition and Global Spirituality
[01:04:56] - Bridging Metaphysical Necessity and Cognitive Pluralism
[01:15:08] - A Philosophical Inquiry into Forms and Instantiations
[01:23:18] - Final Thoughts and Future Conversations
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Dive into an illuminating exploration of divine existence and the nature of the cosmos, gaining insights into philosophical, theological, and scientific perspectives on the profound question of what lies at the foundation of all that is.
Live lectures and seminars begin Friday, April 5th.
Vivian Dittmar, a globally influenced author, speaker, and wisdom teacher, has dedicated two decades to enhancing holistic development. Her diverse upbringing inspired her to explore beyond conventional education, delving into various cultures' wisdom. Through her books and the Be the Change Foundation, Dittmar seeks to redefine prosperity, focusing on emotional intelligence, ecological sustainability, social justice, and spiritual fulfillment, aiming to address the crises facing modern society.
Glossary of Terms
Transrational: Going beyond or surpassing human reason or the rational; nonverbal; nonlinear; abstract.
Pre-rational: Preceding the development of intelligence.
Rational: A state of consciousness characterized by logical, linear, and verbal thinking.
Conscious Release: A practice developed by Vivian Dittmar that fosters the integration of higher states of consciousness with shadow aspects.
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Vivian Dittmar
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Voices with Veraeke: Exploring Emotions and Transrational Wisdom with Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=IQWLfOFe0lo
The Emotional Backpack: How to release unhealthy feelings - Vivian Dittmar viviandittmar.net/en/the-emotional-backpack-book
Your Inner GPS: Find Clarity with the Five Ways of Thinking - Vivian Dittmar viviandittmar.net/en/your-inner-gps-book
Workshop: “How Big Is Your Emotional Backpack?” signup.lebensweise.net/free-backpack-workshop
Online Course: “The Emotional Backpack” ► campus.lebensweise.net/o/the-emotional-backpack-online-course
Rational Intuition: Philosophical Roots, Scientific Investigations - Lisa Osbeck, Barbara Held amazon.com/Rational-Intuition-Philosophical-Scientific-Investigations/dp/1316621219
Quotes
"One of the things that became really clear to me is that the transrational by nature has a very difficult stance in today's world because it speaks to us in a way that is nonverbal, nonlinear, abstract." - Vivian Dittmar [00:16:00]
“The ancient world had a whole faculty and term for nous and noesis, and that was all lost with the loss of our Neoplatonic heritage." - John Vervaeke [00:16:18]
"We have a transrational faculty that is also proactive, that is not receptive, and that's intention. It’s really challenging for people to understand in our cultural framework because we very quickly confuse intention with a goal." - Vivian Dittmar [00:57:43]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Overview of the Poly Crisis and Emotional Intelligence
[00:04:00] - Differentiating Sensations, Emotions, and Consciousness
[00:11:13] - Pre-rational, Rational, and Transrational Distinctions
[00:25:00] - Intuition, Inspiration, and Transrational Wisdom
[00:38:45] - Heart Intelligence
[00:47:50] - Reevaluating Rationality and Embracing Intuitive Integration for Decision-Making
[00:56:17] - Intention and Shaping Agency in Transrational Knowing
[01:03:40] - Bridging Phenomenology, Transrational, and Transpersonal Dialogues
Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey.
Glossary of Terms
IFS (Internal Family Systems): A psychotherapeutic model that identifies and interacts with various sub-personalities or parts within each person's mental system.
Sapiential - relating to wisdom
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Website: Grow Collective - growcollective.com
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Wise Attachment Workshop – Sunday, April 14th – 11:00a EDT
The Art of Parts Work (IFS) Workshop – Sunday, April 28th – 11:00a EDT
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The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession - Robert Falconer
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John Vervaeke on Mystical Experience and the Pursuit of Wisdom - youtube.com/watch?v=u5_YRWrX3mw
Quotes
"We have a moral obligation to ask what is a proper framework to bring to bear upon these experiences so that people can metabolize them and realize them as the cultivation of virtue and wisdom, and not spin them off into narcissism or inflation and go down rabbit holes of their own personal magical metaphysics." - Seth Allison (Quoting John Vervaeke) [00:37:16]
"It is more important, and the integration is in both of those dimensions. How well does it integrate with many domains broadly and deeply in your life? How well does it transform many levels, broadly and deeply, of the psyche? That's the integration. Our culture gives us precious little on both of those, and even more importantly, not only both of them, but how they are properly coordinated and speak to each other in a self-correcting fashion." - John Vervaeke [00:32:06]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Background on IFS
[00:01:00] - Corrections and Insights from Richard Schwartz
[00:06:00] - Deep Dive into IFS Concepts
[00:14:45] - Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis
[00:18:00] - Spiritual Rediscovery and Transformation
[00:40:00] - IFS Practice Session
[01:14:00] - Reflecting on the Session's Impact
[01:33:10] - Closing Reflections and Workshop Announcement
Jordan Hall, a pioneering figure at the forefront of societal transformation, co-founded MP3.com and DivX, catalyzing revolutions in music and online video. His ventures, such as Neurohacker Collective and Civium Project, harness cutting-edge technology and deep philosophical insights to address the metacrisis facing humanity. Currently, as Executive Chairman of Qualia Lifesciences, he leads efforts in human optimization, embodying the ethos of the fellowship of the spirit and inspiring profound dialogues on reimagining the future.
Glossary of Terms
Dialogos: A form of dialogue aimed at transcending mere conversation to reach deeper understanding and connection.
Imaginal: Pertaining to a mode of perception that transcends the purely sensory, engaging with symbols and the deeper aspects of reality.
Christian Virtues: Fundamental qualities valued in Christianity, such as faith, hope, and love.
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Jordan Hall
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X: twitter.com/jgreenhall?lang=en
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Books, Articles, Videos, and Publications
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926
The Courage to Be - Paul Tillich amazon.com/Courage-Be-Paul-Tillich/dp/0300084714
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad amazon.com/Heart-Darkness-Joseph-Conrad/dp/1936594145
Boden, Margaret. (2009). Creativity in a nutshell. Think. 5. 83-96. researchgate.net/publication/209436199_Creativity_in_a_nutshell
The Psychological Drivers of the Metacrisis John Vervaeke, Iain McGilchrist, Daniel Schmachtenberger
youtube.com/watch?v=P7i1ughRGcQ
Embodiment and the Metacrisis with Rafe Kelley youtube.com/watch?v=PVJztMRSeek&t=307s
Quotes
"Make ourselves vehicles and instruments, both. That's something that's capable both of holding and expressing. So, I am the life and the light, and I am the way. Not the destination, not the end of the journey, but the way." - Jordan Hall [00:44:11]
"The invitation to take up your cross and bear it, to step through the crucifixion of the human nature, must, in fact, be voluntarily self-crucified, and human will must surrender itself into a sort of a divine coupling. That's the stepping through of the win-lose into the win-win." - Jordan Hall [01:20:00]
Chapters
00:03:00 - Christian Virtues and the Imaginal: A Journey into Spiritual Depth
00:20:00 - The Power of Transformative Dialogue: Unity and Deepening Faith
00:28:00 - Bridging Divides: The Quest for Global Unity and Transcendent Communication
00:52:00 - Faith's Duality: Wholesomeness Versus Completeness
01:05:00 - Encountering Sacredness: Reflections on Faith and Community
01:24:20 - Upcoming Dialogue: Non-Rivalrous Christianity, Religio, and the Fellowship of the Spirit
Rafe Kelley, founder of Evolve Move Play, pioneers a unique movement philosophy, merging parkour with martial arts and a deep connection to nature, fostering a holistic wisdom practice. With over two decades of teaching experience, he offers transformative retreats, workshops, and online courses worldwide. His work emphasizes the synergy between body, psyche, and environment, inviting exploration of personal potential and the sacred in movement.
Glossary of Terms
Ecology of Practices: A set of activities or habits that a group of people commit to doing together.
Parkour: A discipline focused on navigating obstacles efficiently and creatively.
Movement Culture: A broad approach to physical training that incorporates elements from various disciplines for holistic development.
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Rafe Kelley
Website: evolvemoveplay.com
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Retreats evolvemoveplay.com/retreat
Return to the Source evolvemoveplay.com/return-to-the-source-seminar
Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926
1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created - Charles C. Mann amazon.com/1493-Uncovering-World-Columbus-Created/dp/0307278247
The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow's World - Charles C. Mann amazon.com/Wizard-Prophet-Remarkable-Scientists-Tomorrows/dp/0345802845
City - Clifford D. Simak amazon.com/City-Clifford-D-Simak/dp/1504013034
Happy St. Valentine's Day "Philosophy & Love" - youtu.be/1vzsxpwHFWE?si=X73u9LI8VQZg33c-
CNN. (2024, January 12). Ancient city uncovered in the Amazon, shedding light on a complex civilization. CNN. Retrieved February 24, 2024 cnn.com/2024/01/12/americas/ancient-city-uncovered-amazon-upano-intl-scli-scn/index.html
Quotes
"Discipline ultimately means to follow, and you don't discipline punitively; you discipline something by getting it oriented to something that it wants to follow. That's an important idea." - [01:26:20] John Vervaeke
"If we want to solve the meaning crisis and the meta crisis, we have to fall more in love with being. That's not something we can do just through dialogue, it's something we have to embody." - [01:43:20] Rafe Kelley
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Background of Rafe Kelley
[00:02:20] - Return to the Source Retreat Experience
[00:07:50] - Philosophical Dialogues and Wisdom Practices
[00:23:00] - Love and Reciprocal Realization
[00:33:10] - Navigating the Meaning Crisis through Derealization and Reconnection
[00:53:10] - Environmentalism and Human Interaction with Nature
[01:11:40] - Navigating Challenges and Exploring Paths Forward
[01:20:25] - Reevaluating Capitalism: A Call for Moral Revitalization
[01:25:00] - Love, Discipline, and the Sacred
[01:37:20] - Exploring Embodiment and the Sacred
Ken Lowry is a dedicated explorer of the good, true, and beautiful through his channel Climbing Mt Sophia, focusing on wisdom and virtue dialogues. His work fosters key collaborations, enhancing discussions on spirituality and philosophy.
Jonathan Pageau, a French Canadian icon carver and speaker, examines symbolic patterns to reconnect modern life with traditional arts, advocating for the re-enchantment of our contemporary world through ancient wisdom.
DC Schindler, a philosopher and professor, delves into metaphysics, ethics, and cultural philosophy, examining classical philosophy's impact on modern challenges, including AI, and its influence on culture and understanding.
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Ken Lowry:
YouTube: youtube.com/@climbingmt.sophia
Substack: kenlowry.substack.com
Jonathan Pageau:
Website: thesymbolicworld.com
YouTube: youtube.com/c/jonathanpageau
DC Schindler:
Website: https://www.johnpaulii.edu/academics/faculty/d-c-schindler/
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Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos
AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist - John Vervaeke youtube.com/watch?v=A-_RdKiDbz4&list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth&index=1
Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent-ebook/dp/B0CBXKL7P1
Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne amazon.com/dp/B0CH8W8XLF
Divination and Human Nature: A Cognitive History of Intuition in Classical Antiquity - Peter Struck amazon.com/Divination-Human-Nature-Cognitive-Intuition/dp/0691183457
Quotes
"I do not honestly see how it is possible for humans to make something that is not derivative of themselves... the idea that these things could not be either ways to increase certain people's power or parasites on our own consciousness seems to me not conceivable." - Jonathan Pageau [00:24:22]
"One of the problems that I'm seeing is that a lot of this is motivated by economic, by greed, by the capacity to be economically superior to other companies... what is actually driving AI is something like mammon." - Jonathan Pageau [00:21:39]
"I wonder whether it's possible to be intelligent without first being alive. There's something about the nature of a living thing that allows intelligence to emerge. Intelligence is a way of being before it's a way of acting and is analogous to what it means to be alive rather than just carry out functions that look like life." - DC Schindler [00:42:59]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Opening Remarks: AI's Scope and Impact
[00:03:00] - Defining AI: Weak, Strong, and AGI
[00:18:30] - Ethical and Philosophical AI Considerations
[00:32:35] - Integrating Wisdom with AI Development
[00:41:40] - Distinguishing Intelligence and Rationality in AI
[00:51:48] - Aligning Humanity to AI-Driven Cultural Shifts
[01:23:00] - Consciousness and Technology: Extending the Human Mind
[01:42:23] - Speculating AI's Future Directions
[01:57:44] - Final Thoughts: Reflecting on AI's Complexity
Mark Miller, a philosopher and cognitive scientist, holds a senior research fellowship at Monash University's Center for Consciousness and Contemplative Studies in Australia, with affiliations at the University of Toronto and Hokkaido University in Japan. His work, which delves into the interplay between human thought, technology's impact on well-being, and human-computer interaction, is at the forefront of integrating cognitive neuroscience with philosophical inquiry.
Glossary of Terms
Predictive Processing: A cognitive science theory that suggests the brain continuously makes predictions about the environment based on past experiences.
Synthetic Philosophy: An interdisciplinary approach that integrates insights from various fields to develop comprehensive frameworks for understanding complex phenomena.
Contemplative Science: A field of study that investigates the effects of meditation and contemplative practices on the mind and well-being.
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Mark Miller:
The Contemplative Science Podcast: thecontemplativescientists.com
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Books, Articles, and Publications
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
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Why I Am Not a Buddhist - Evan Thompson amazon.com/Why-I-Am-Not-Buddhist/dp/0300264674
Quotes
“Meditation is philosophy. It's not about relaxing, and it's certainly not about just creating weird psychedelic states so that we can blow our minds and talk about it. Meditation is a way of knowing ourselves, knowing our situation, and then flourishing through that special knowing.” - Mark Miller [00:16:42]
"Don't under appreciate the value of love for your training. If you're listening to this, and you're contemplative, and you're tuning in now to help your practice, don't overlook it. It's valuable at the beginning, in the middle, in the end - like even a small amount of loving kindness and kindness practice now is going to make all the difference." - Mark Miller [00:56:00]
Chapters
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:06:00] - Mark Miller's Journey in Contemplative Science
[00:14:00] - Meditation's Role in Philosophy and Contemplation
[00:17:00] - Synthetic Philosophy and Contemplative Science
[00:23:00] - Bridging Science, Philosophy and Contemplative Practice
[00:30:00] - Blending Philosophy and Cognitive Science in Contemplative Practice
[00:47:00] - Exploring Deep Belief Structures and Skillful Engagement
[00:55:00] - Concluding Thoughts
Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey.
Glossary of Terms
Internal Family Systems (IFS): A psychotherapy model that emphasizes the multiplicity of the mind, suggesting that the psyche is made up of subpersonalities or parts.
Jungian Analysis: A psychotherapeutic approach based on the theories of Carl Jung, focusing on the integration of the conscious and unconscious aspects of the psyche.
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Books, Articles, and Publications
No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model - Richard Schwartz amazon.com/No-Bad-Parts-Restoring-Wholeness/dp/1683646681
Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz, Robert R. Falconer
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The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy. Perspective, Preparation, and Practice - Sunny Strasburg, Richard Schwartz amazon.com/Theradelic-Approach-Psychedelic-Perspective-Preparation/dp/B0C7JJB5WY
In Midlife: A Jungian Perspective - Murray Stein amazon.com/Midlife-Jungian-Perspective-Murray-Stein/dp/1630510890
Jung's Map of the Soul: An Introduction - Murray Stein amazon.com/Jungs-Map-Soul-Murray-Stein/dp/0812693760
A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom amazon.com/Spirit-Trust-Reading-Hegels-Phenomenology/dp/0674976819
Quotes
"The pursuit of wisdom and virtue from an attachment perspective could be framed as the pursuit of trust, learning of trust. It is a dangerous thing to trust, yet we can't really get to the next level without some risk. The connections we make externally and internally really are the key forward, the door to walk through." - Seth Allison [01:21:08]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction to Seth Allison and Recap of Previous Discussions
[00:05:00] - Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)
[00:20:00] - Jungian Analysis and Its Intersection with IFS
[00:35:00] - Practical Applications of IFS in Therapy
[00:50:00] - The Interplay of Technique, Attachment, and Transformation in Psychotherapy
[01:05:00] - Navigating the Liminal Spaces of the Psyche with Hermes
[01:16:00] - Conclusion and Plans for Future Conversations
Massimo Pigliucci is a distinguished philosopher and author renowned for his work in the philosophy of science and his advocacy for Stoicism as a practical philosophy for modern life. He is a key figure in the modern revival of Stoicism, contributing significantly through his writings, talks, and as a certified philosophical counselor.
Glossary of Terms
Stoicism: An ancient Greek philosophy that emphasizes rationality, virtue, and resilience.
Mindfulness: The practice of maintaining a nonjudgmental state of heightened awareness of one's thoughts, emotions, or experiences.
Prosoche: A Stoic term for attentive mindfulness, focusing on rational judgment and action.
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Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
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A Handbook for New Stoics: How to Thrive in a World Out of Your Control―52 Week-by-Week Lessons - Gregory Lopez, Massimo Pigliucci amazon.com/Handbook-New-Stoics-Week-Week/dp/1615195335
Quotes
"But meditating in Stoicism is a kind of activity that is very much philosophical in nature... But it's most certainly is a type of philosophizing." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:11:11]
"This is a place where it's converging with sort of cutting edge CogSci, which is the importance of attention to being reasonable that the training of attention is as important as the training of argumentation." - John Vervaeke [00:20:40]
"What can I do better the next time? Again, the idea being your mind needs to be prepared. If you're prepared, you're going to react better the next time around." - Massimo Pigliucci [00:53:15]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction to the Episode by John Vervaeke
[00:01:21] - Massimo Pigliucci's Background and Journey to Stoicism
[00:04:44] - Pigliucci’s Current Work and Philosophical Interests
[00:08:03] - Discussing the Philosophy of Meditation
[00:14:47] - Exploration of Stoic Principles: Physics, Logic, and Ethics
[00:17:00] - Massimo Pigliucci Discusses the Broader Understanding of Ethics in Stoicism
[00:24:40] - Stoic Perspectives on Choice, Good and Evil, and Social Relationships
[00:31:09] - Comparing and Contrasting Buddhism and Stoicism
[00:43:30] - Massimo's Personal Stoic Meditative Practices
[00:53:15] - Massimo Pigliucci's Closing Thoughts on Practical Philosophy
Watch the full lecture here: iai.tv/video/solving-the-meaning-crisis-john-vervaeke?_auid=2020
Glossary of Terms
Meaning Crisis: A societal condition characterized by a widespread perception of life as meaningless, driven by factors like loneliness, secularization, and disconnection from communal and sacred aspects of life.
Secularization: The process by which religious institutions, practices, and beliefs lose their social significance.
Nihilism: The rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
Mindfulness: A mental state achieved by focusing one's awareness on the present moment while calmly acknowledging and accepting one's feelings, thoughts, and bodily sensations.
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Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos
Beyond the Trip: How Psychedelics Are Shaping Our Worldview, with Alexander Beiner youtube.com/watch?v=G1pNqzvhbyI&t=6s
How the West Really Lost God: A New Theory of Secularization - Mary Eberstadt amazon.com/How-West-Really-Lost-Secularization/dp/1599474662
Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis - John Vervaeke, Christopher Mastropietro, and Filip Miscevic amazon.com/Zombies-Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century/dp/178374328
On Bullshit - Harry G. Frankfurt amazon.com/Bullshit-Harry-G-Frankfurt/dp/0691122946
The Bigger Picture: How Psychedelics Can Help Us Make Sense of the World - Alexander Beiner amazon.com/Bigger-Picture-Psychedelics-Sense-World/dp/140197189X
Meaning in Life and Why It Matters - Susan Wolf amazon.com/Meaning-Matters-University-Center-Values/dp/0691154503
[Addictive behaviour]. World Health Organization (2019, May 28). https://www.who.int/health-topics/addictive-behaviour#tab=tab_1
Quotes
“The thing about anxiety is it doesn't have a focused object because it generally points to a fundamental sense of disconnection. The coupling between the agent and the arena of the world is not properly in place for you.” - John Vervaeke [00:03:57]
“Two things that people are commenting a lot on… epidemic narcissism and nihilism, and they're actually just two sides of the same coin. Nihilism emphasizes the objective sense of a lack of meaning, and narcissism is the subjective.” - John Vervaeke [00:05:08]
"Zombies are a mythological expression of the meaning crisis. They're not supernatural; they are us, decayed. They're in groups, but they're not communal. They drift... They have an insatiable desire to consume... They often want to consume the organ of meaning-making, brains... The zombies are us. We are them. And they're the meaning crisis." - John Vervaeke [00:06:10]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction to the Meaning Crisis
[00:01:00] - The Loneliness Epidemic and Social Isolation
[00:02:00] - Secularization and the Loss of the Sacred
[00:03:20] - Anxiety, Depression, and Mental Health
[00:05:00] - Narcissism, Nihilism, and Cultural Phenomena
[00:06:00] - The Zombie Myth as a Metaphor
[00:12:20] - Mindfulness and Stoicism Today
[00:15:00] - Psychedelic Experiences
[00:16:20] - The Metaphor of Meaning.
Evan Thompson is a renowned philosopher and cognitive scientist, recognized for his significant contributions to the field of 4E cognitive science, which emphasizes embodied, embedded, enactive, and extended aspects of cognition. His work intricately bridges Western philosophy with Eastern contemplative practices, particularly Buddhism, exploring the intersections of consciousness, meditation, and the human experience. Thompson's influential writings include discussions on the philosophy of mind, meditation, and the nature of self, making him a respected figure in both academic and contemplative circles.
Glossary of Terms
4E Cognitive Science: A framework in cognitive science emphasizing four key factors: embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended cognition.
Contemplative Perspectives: Approaches to understanding and experiencing reality that involve introspection and focused attention, often used in the context of meditation and mindfulness.
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Books, Articles, and Publications
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
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Mind in Life: Biology, Phenomenology, and the Sciences of Mind - Evan Thompson amazon.com/Mind-Life-Biology-Phenomenology-Sciences/dp/0674057511
Waking, Dreaming, Being: Self and Consciousness in Neuroscience, Meditation, and Philosophy - Evan Thompson amazon.com/Waking-Dreaming-Being-Consciousness-Neuroscience/dp/0231136951
Why I Am Not a Buddhist - Evan Thompson amazon.com/Why-I-Am-Not-Buddhist-ebook/dp/B082P4FFRG
Trying Not to Try: Ancient China, Modern Science, and the Power of Spontaneity - Edward Slingerland amazon.com/Trying-Not-Try-Ancient-Spontaneity/dp/077043763X
The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience - Adam Frank, Marcelo Gleiser, Evan Thompson amazon.com/Blind-Spot-Science-Cannot-Experience/dp/0262048809
Quotes
"I think of myself as first and foremost a philosopher of mind who works very much on cognitive science and in collaboration with cognitive scientists." - Evan Thompson [00:04:31]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Series Introduction and Evan Thompson's Cognitive Science Expertise
[00:02:13] - Integrating Western Philosophy with Buddhist Concepts in Cognitive Science
[00:04:09] - Philosophical and Meditative Perspectives on Dying and Death
[00:07:44] - Cognitive Flexibility and Death Reflection in Meditation Practice
[00:16:15] - Mindfulness Practices Across Various Traditions and Philosophical Inquiry
[00:36:01] - Transformational Aspects of Meditation, Rituals, and Self-Cultivation
[00:50:29] - The Role of Mindfulness in Modern Culture and Science
[00:57:56] - Meditation as a Conduit Between Diverse Philosophical and Cultural Contexts
[01:00:43] - Enhancing Consciousness and Attention Through Mindfulness Practices
[01:14:00] - Concluding Dialogue
Cameron Duffy is a renowned expert in psychedelic integration counseling, focusing on the transformative potential of psychedelic therapies in mental health. His work is pivotal in exploring the intersection of psychedelic experiences with clinical practice, contributing significantly to the field with innovative approaches and deep insights into the mind-body connection.
Terri Dentry is a distinguished PhD graduate in interprofessional practice, known for her research on collaborative healthcare among diverse medical practitioners. Her work primarily focuses on chronic pain and PTSD treatment in refugees and asylum seekers, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and holistic approaches in patient care.
Glossary of Terms
Interprofessional Practice: Collaborative approach where healthcare professionals from different specialties work together for comprehensive patient care.
Psychedelic Integration: The process of assimilating insights from psychedelic experiences into everyday life, often through therapy.
Dual Diagnosis: A condition where an individual experiences both a mental illness and a substance use disorder simultaneously.
Transformational Process: A significant change in one's mental, emotional, or spiritual state, often following profound experiences.
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After Socrates
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Quotes
"This is the beginning of a conversation that needs to grow and expand." - John Vervaeke
"The way we communicate and how this might evolve into a kind of philosophical language. [...] health treatment can evolve and is along with consciousness." - Cameron Duffy
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:01:00] Terri Dentry’s Background in Interprofessional Practice
[00:08:03] Cameron Duffy on Psychedelic Integration
[00:24:40] The Role of Collaboration in Healthcare
[00:31:37] Psychedelic Renaissance in Therapy
[00:47:42] Community Health Insights
[01:02:06] Future Directions in Healthcare and Consciousness Evolution
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] - Introduction by John Vervaeke with guests Terri Dentry and Cameron Duffy.
[00:01:00] - Terri Dentry shares insights on interprofessional healthcare and the mind-body connection.
[00:06:20] - Terri discusses Cameron's holistic patient approach using 4E cognitive science.
[00:10:20] - Cameron and Terri discuss integrating psychedelic experiences in healthcare.
[00:20:55] - Discussion on the mind-body connection in pain treatment and patient understanding.
[00:31:40] - Cameron on the need for an integrative framework in the psychedelic renaissance.
[00:36:00] - Discussion on alleviating human suffering and broadening the dialogue.
[00:39:20] - Insights into historical approaches to mental health issues.
[00:44:20] - Terri and Cameron talk about mental health challenges and community roles.
[00:54:40] - Exploring therapeutic practices' potential in broader cultural contexts.
[01:02:06] - Terri emphasizes the global importance of an integrated approach.
[01:04:34] - Cameron expresses hope for the discussion's inspirational impact.
[01:08:14] - John wraps up, encouraging further conversation on the discussed topics.
Thomas Metzinger, recently retired Professor of Theoretical Philosophy at Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, remains celebrated for his contributions to philosophy and cognitive science. As an Adjunct Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Study, he authored significant works like "Being No One" and "The Ego Tunnel." His extensive research over 47 years in meditation intertwines analytic philosophy of mind, applied ethics, and cognitive science.
Glossary of Terms
Minimal Phenomenal Experience (MPE): The simplest form of conscious experience.
Non-Egoic Awareness: A state of consciousness where the self or ego is not the central aspect of experience.
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Books, Articles, and Publications
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
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Being No One: The Self-Model Theory of Subjectivity - Thomas Metzinger amazon.com/Being-No-One-Self-Model-Subjectivity/dp/0262633086
The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self - Thomas Metzinger amazon.com/Ego-Tunnel-Science-Mind-Myth/dp/0465020690
The Elephant and the Blind: The Experience of Pure Consciousness: Philosophy, Science, and 500+ Experiential Reports - Thomas Metzinger amazon.com/Elephant-Blind-Experience-Consciousness-Experiential/dp/0262547104
The Problem of Pure Consciousness: Mysticism and Philosophy - Robert K. C. Forman amazon.com/Problem-Pure-Consciousness-Mysticism-Philosophy/dp/0195109767
Predictive processing and relevance realization: exploring convergent solutions to the frame problem. Phenomenology and the Cognitive Sciences. Andersen, B. P., Miller, M., & Vervaeke, J. (2022)
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11097-022-09850-6
Trying Not to Try: Ancient China, Modern Science, and the Power of Spontaneity - Edward Slingerland amazon.com/Trying-Not-Try-Ancient-Spontaneity/dp/077043763X
M-Autonomy. Journal of Consciousness Studies Metzinger, Thomas (2015). https://www.blogs.uni-mainz.de/fb05philosophie/files/2013/04/Metzinger_M-Autonomy_JCS_2015.pdf
Are you sleepwalking now? What we know about mind wandering. Aeon. Metzinger, T. (2013). aeon.co/essays/are-you-sleepwalking-now-what-we-know-about-mind-wandering
The Robot's Rebellion: Finding Meaning in the Age of Darwin - Keith E. Stanovich amazon.com/Robots-Rebellion-Finding-Meaning-Darwin/dp/0226771253
Quotes
"In meditation, awareness can become non egoically aware of itself." - Thomas Metzinger
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction: Overview of Meditation Topics
[00:04:40] - Awareness: Minimal Phenomenal Experience
[00:07:41] - Thomas' Insights: Consciousness Redefinition
[00:14:45] - Meditative Consciousness: Non-Duality and Perception
[00:27:02] - Meditation and Conscious Evolution
[00:42:00] - Redefining Spirituality: Meaning Crisis and Mortality
[00:57:35] - Tackling Self-Deception: Balanced Practices
[01:11:43] - Global Change: Government and AI Engagement
[01:18:09] - Conscious Practice: Honest Spiritual Approaches
Guy Sengstock, the founder of the Circling method, is a renowned facilitator and innovator in the field of authentic communication and personal development. His method blends philosophical rigor with a deep understanding of relational dynamics, offering transformative experiences that foster genuine connection and self-awareness.
Glossary of Terms
Relationality: The quality of being relational, emphasizing the importance of relationships in understanding beings and the world.
Heidegger: A German philosopher known for his existential and phenomenological explorations.
Neoplatonism: A philosophical system that posits the existence of an ultimate reality or "One" from which everything emanates.
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Workshop: Circling & Dialogos: The After Socrates Wisdom Intensive February 10-11, 2024
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Books, Articles, and Publications
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler
amazon.com/dp/3031309065
Relationality as the Ground of Being: The One as Pure Relation in Plotinus - Filler, James (2019). International Journal of the Platonic Tradition
brill.com/view/journals/jpt/13/1/article-p1_1.xml
The Relational Ontology of Anaximander and Heraclitus - Filler, James (2022). Review of Metaphysics
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/872706
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - Filler, James (2023). Springer Nature Switzerland.
link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-30907-6
Religion and Nothingness - Keiji Nishitani
amazon.com/Religion-Nothingness-Nanzan-Studies-Culture/dp/0520049462
Supernatural Selection: How Religion Evolved - Matt Rossano amazon.com/Supernatural-Selection-How-Religion-Evolved/dp/0195385810
Indeterminacy and Intelligibility - Brian John Martine amazon.com/Indeterminacy-Intelligibility-SUNY-Systematic-Philosophy/dp/0791411745
Quotes
"There's a sacred dimension to this that is trying to be born right now, because we need to be born beyond the meaning crisis, and the sacred needs to be born." - John Vervaeke [00:45:26]
"That's what grief is. There's a hole in reality because relationality has been lost." - John Vervaeke [00:47:38]
"The ongoing practice involves continually reaching into, and being reached by this process. This relationality that is also an emptiness is so important. It just seems like it's the most important thing." - Guy Sengstock [00:58:10]
Chapters
[00:00:00] - Introduction to Guy Sengstock and the upcoming workshop.
[00:02:00] - Discussing James Filler’s book and relationality.
[00:14:00] - Exploring the significance of grief.
[00:29:00] - The relational nature of being and wisdom.
[00:42:00] - Delving into Zen philosophy and Neoplatonism.
[00:54:00] - The transformative power of grief and loss.
[01:10:00] - Concluding thoughts and reflections on relational ontology.
Lou Marinoff, a Canadian-born academic and Commonwealth Scholar, is a prominent figure in philosophical counseling. He initially studied theoretical physics before earning a doctorate in philosophy of science. Marinoff is a Professor of Philosophy and Asian Studies at The City College of New York and the founding president of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association. He is best known for his groundbreaking book "Plato, Not Prozac," which popularized practical philosophy and significantly contributed to the philosophical counseling movement in the U.S.
Glossary of Terms
TM: Transcendental Meditation
APPA: American Philosophical Practitioners Association
ICPP: International Conference on Philosophical Practice
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Books, Articles, and Publications
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X
Plato, Not Prozac!: Applying Eternal Wisdom to Everyday Problems - Lou Marinoff amazon.com/Plato-Not-Prozac-Applying-Everyday/dp/0060931361
The Inner Philosopher: Conversations on Philosophy's Transformative Power - Daisaku Ikeda, Lou Marinoff amazon.com/Inner-Philosopher-Conversations-Philosophys-Transformative/dp/1887917098
Choose Hope: Your Role in Waging Peace in the Nuclear Age - David Krieger, Daisaku Ikeda
amazon.com/Choose-Hope-Waging-Peace-Nuclear/dp/0967469767
The Middle Way: Finding Happiness in a World of Extremes - Lou Marinoff amazon.com/Middle-Way-Finding-Happiness-Extremes/dp/1402743440
Philosophy, Humor, and the Human Condition: Taking Ridicule Seriously - Lydia Amir amazon.com/Philosophy-Humor-Human-Condition-Seriously/dp/3030326705
Zen Spirit, Christian Spirit: Revised and Updated Second Edition - Robert Kennedy amazon.com/Zen-Spirit-Christian-Place-Life/dp/0826409199
A resolution of Bertrand's paradox. Marinoff, Louis (1994). Philosophy of Science 61 (1):1-24.
https://www.academia.edu/44669146/A_Resolution_of_Bertrands_Paradox
Quotes
"You can't do anything with your body unless your mind is calm... It's all about meditation." - Lou Marinoff
"One can take any practice and use it as a basis of meditation." - Lou Marinoff
"The purpose of philosophy is counsel." - Lou Marinoff, referencing Seneca
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] - Introduction and Lou Marinoff's Background
[00:03:30] - Lou's Journey into Meditation and Philosophy
[00:13:18] - The Influence of Martial Arts on Lou's Philosophy
[00:28:13] - Exploring the Practical Applications of Philosophy
[00:42:58] - Meditation as a Philosophical Concept
[00:51:03] - The Philosophical Nature of Meditation Practices
[00:54:25] - Key Meditative Experiences and Philosophical Insights
[01:02:09] - Intersections of Meditation, Science, and Geometry
[01:09:18] - Visualization in Science and Philosophy
[01:17:50] - Humor in Zen and Buddhist Practices
[01:23:00] - Closing Reflections on the Dialogue
Glossary of Terms
Meaning Crisis: A cultural and personal state where individuals struggle to find meaning and purpose in life.
Relevance Realization: The cognitive process of determining what information is relevant in a given context.
Wisdom: The ability to apply knowledge and experience with insight and judgment.
Resources and References
John Vervaeke
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The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis Series: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
After Socrates Series: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC
Books
Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis - John Vervaeke, Christopher Mastropietro, and Filip Miscevic: amazon.com/Zombies-Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century/dp/178374328X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H9A9GCUXL5S1&keywords=zombie+book+vervaeke&qid=1691348164&s=books&sprefix=zombie+book+vervaeke%2Cstripbooks%2C129&sr=1-1
Psychological Types - C. G. Jung: amazon.com/Psychological-Types-Collected-Works-Bollingen/dp/0691018138/ref=sr_1_1?crid=39WYT73LT6220&keywords=psychological+types&qid=1700694781&sprefix=psychological+types%2Caps%2C387&sr=8-1
Beyond Good and Evil - Friedrich Nietzsche: amazon.com/Beyond-Good-Evil-Penguin-Classics/dp/014044923X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=252IL052RBD0&keywords=beyond+good+and+evil&qid=1700694906&sprefix=beyond+good+and+evil%2Caps%2C350&sr=8-1
The Will to Power - Friedrich Nietzsche: amazon.com/Will-Power-Friedrich-Nietzsche-ebook/dp/B09RZRVC8S/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3HKD3BPJOAONB&keywords=will+to+power+nietzsche+penguin+classics&qid=1700694975&sprefix=will+to+po%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-1
Religion and Nothingness - Keiji Nishitani: amazon.com/Religion-Nothingness-Nanzan-Studies-Culture/dp/0520049462/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3NVEZUFG5B98Z&keywords=religion+and+nothingness&qid=1700695070&sprefix=religion+and+nothingnes%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1
The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism - Keiji Nishitani: amazon.com/Self-Overcoming-Nihilism-Modern-Japanese-Philosophy/dp/0791404382/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=skMKi&content-id=amzn1.sym.cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_p=cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_r=130-4407807-9949005&pd_rd_wg=8vmzV&pd_rd_r=832b10d3-35b3-437b-ae20-d2d6f1082fbc&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk
1984 - George Orwell: amazon.com/1984-Signet-Classics-George-Orwell/dp/0451524934/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1DOXKCYY9KLX2&keywords=1984+george+orwell&qid=1700695216&s=books&sprefix=1984%2Cstripbooks%2C253&sr=1-4
Quotes
"Meaning in life is you want to be connected to something that has a value and reality independent of your egocentrism." - John Vervaeke [00:43:30]
"We're in a propositional tyranny for a lot of historical reasons; we sort of collapsed all-knowing to propositional knowing." - John Vervaeke [00:19:41]
"Truth is an act in which you, you, it's a comparative act ultimately when you self transcend." - John Vervaeke [00:50:15]
"Depression and anxiety are both telling you that your fundamental orientation needs to die." - John Vervaeke [00:46:39]
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:48] - Introduction to John Vervaeke
[00:03:48] - Exploring the Meaning Crisis
[00:07:19] - The Role of Wisdom and Self-Transcendence
[00:21:06] - Relevance Realization and Personal Growth
[00:35:20] - Discussing Nihilism and Cultural Shifts
[00:47:53] - Insights on Truth and Knowledge
[00:57:10] - Concluding Thoughts on Addressing the Meaning Crisis
Pierre Grimes, Ph.D., a distinguished philosopher and founder of the Noetic Society, has revolutionized the Socratic dialectic with his development of philosophical midwifery, a cornerstone of contemporary philosophical counseling. His influential work, particularly in the United States since the 1960s, is encapsulated in his book, "Philosophical Midwifery." A board member of the American Philosophical Practitioners Association (APPA), Grimes has been pivotal in integrating Neoplatonism with Zen Buddhism, showcasing his mastery of Eastern and Western philosophies. His role as a Dharma teacher and successor in the Korean Chogye Buddhist order further illustrates his profound impact on philosophical counseling and spiritual development, contributing significantly to both personal and collective enlightenment.
Resources and References
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Rick Repetti:
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Pierre Grimes:
Website: noeticsociety.org
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After Socrates
youtube.com/watch?v=ZOwjmZx12gk&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC
Books, Articles, and Publications
Socrates and Jesus: A Dialogue in Heaven - Pierre Grimes amazon.com/Socrates-Jesus-Dialogue-Pierre-Grimes/dp/B0CP5ZQLSK
Philosophical Midwifery: A New Paradigm for Understanding Human Problems With Its Validation - Pierre Grimes, Regina L. Ulianan amazon.com/Philosophical-Midwifery-Paradigm-Understanding-Validation/dp/1667878352
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X
Quotes
"Real philosophy needs a language. Greek has the language." - Pierre Grimes
"Every person is a problem, brings forth a problem." - Pierre Grimes
"Philosophy can subsume within itself all religious traditions, spiritual systems." - Pierre Grimes
"Our problem is that we have imported a philosophy that doesn't do us any good." - Pierre Grimes
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction and Guest Background
[00:03:07] Insights from Military Service and Education
[00:11:40] Pierre's Spiritual Awakening and Exploration
[00:33:32] Integration of Eastern and Western Philosophical Traditions
[00:51:00] The Nature of Self and Enlightenment
[01:00:00]Philosophy as a Tool for Personal and Collective Transformation
[01:17:12] Concluding Thoughts
Matthew T. Segall, Ph.D., is a renowned philosopher specializing in Alfred North Whitehead's process philosophy. He earned his doctorate from the California Institute of Integral Studies in 2016, with a focus on post-Kantian process philosophy. His academic work emphasizes the integration of science, spirituality, and ecology, contributing significantly to contemporary philosophical thought.
Resources and References
Gregg Henriques:
Website: medium.com/@jordangreenhall%C2%A0%C2%A0
Facebook: facebook.com/gregg.henriques
X: twitter.com/henriqgx
Matt Segall
Website: footnotes2plato.com/about-me
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X: twitter.com/ThouArtThat
Facebook: facebook.com/matthew.david.segall
John Vervaeke
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Resources and References
The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
John Vervaeke YouTube
Is Free Will an Illusion? Navigating Kantian Thought with Dr. Vervaeke & Matt Segall: youtube.com/watch?v=15akhXGHwzo
Dynamics of Modern Paradigm Shifts with Jordan Hall: youtube.com/watch?v=JDKM6UXzBqM
Books, Articles, and Publications
Crossing the Threshold: Etheric Imagination in the Post-Kantian Process Philosophy of Schelling and Whitehead - Matthew David Segall: amazon.com/Crossing-Threshold-Imagination-Post-Kantian-Philosophy/dp/1947544489
Process-Relational Philosophy: An Introduction to Alfred North Whitehead - C. Robert Mesle: amazon.com/Process-Relational-Philosophy-Introduction-Alfred-Whitehead/dp/1599471329/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3N9M24RVU43YZ&keywords=Introduction+to+Process+Relational+Philosophy.&qid=1702861760&s=books&sprefix=introduction+to+process+relational+philosophy.+%2Cstripbooks%2C242&sr=1-1
How the Body Shapes the Mind - Shaun Gallagher: amazon.com/Body-Shapes-Mind-Shaun-Gallagher/dp/0199204160/ref=sr_1_1?crid=C7F2P3DYV644&keywords=how+the+body+shapes+the+mind&qid=1702862765&s=books&sprefix=how+the+body+shapes+the+mind%2Cstripbooks%2C164&sr=1-1
Modes of Thought - Alfred North Whitehead
Distributed Cognition and the Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34234725
The Enactment of Shared Agency in Teams Exploring Mars Through Rovers - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: philpapers.org/rec/CHITEO-23
The Experience of Presence in the Mars Exploration Rover Mission - Dan Chiappe, John Vervaeke: https://direct.mit.edu/pvar/article-abstract/27/4/400/106024/The-Experience-of-Presence-in-the-Mars-Exploration?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Quotes
"Bringing in the complexity sciences and emergence in a contemporary context is exciting." - Matt Segall
"Transcendent naturalism is trying to incorporate elements traditionally considered supernatural." - Matt Segall
"There's a needle to be threaded in understanding new age movements." - Matt Segall
"The imaginal is crucial for understanding how we connect with the world." - John Vervaeke
"Language plays a key role in connecting different perspectives." - John Vervaeke
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction of Guest and Topic
[00:01:32] Discussion on Etheric Imagination and Process Philosophy
[00:04:48] Exploring the Limitations of Traditional Naturalism
[00:14:35] The Role of Imagination in Scientific Contexts
[00:20:05] The Evolving Nature of Human Perception and Cognition
[00:25:27] Exploring the Concept of 'One World' in Naturalism
[00:43:33] The Integration of Different Forms of Knowing
[00:54:55] Concluding Thoughts and Perspectives
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Join our new Patreon
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John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
After Socrates
youtube.com/watch?v=ZOwjmZx12gk&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC
AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist
youtu.be/A-_RdKiDbz4
Books, Articles, and Publications
Routledge Handbook on the Philosophy of Meditation - Rick Repetti
amazon.com/Routledge-Handbook-Philosophy-Meditation-Repetti/dp/036764746X
Experimental Phenomenology: An Introduction - Don Ihde amazon.com/Experimental-Phenomenology-Introduction-Don-Ihde/dp/0887061990
Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne amazon.com/Mentoring-Machines-Orientation-Artificially-Intelligent/dp/1645010821
Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne
amazon.com/gp/product/B0CH8W8XLF
The Republic by Plato - The Internet Classics Archive
https://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html
Relevance, Meaning and the Cognitive Science of Wisdom Vervaeke, J., & Ferraro, L. (2013)
researchgate.net/publication/286508333_Relevance_Meaning_and_the_Cognitive_Science_of_Wisdom
Quotes
"Mindfulness and philosophy converge in cognitive science, enriching our understanding of wisdom." - John Vervaeke
"Meditation and contemplation are integral for a holistic philosophical understanding." - Rick Repetti
"The journey to wisdom involves integrating academic philosophy with life practices." - John Vervaeke
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction to the Series
[00:03:00] John's Personal Journey to Philosophy and Meditation
[00:06:00] The Convergence of Mindfulness and Academic Philosophy
[00:11:40] Defining Meditation and Contemplation
[00:19:24] Discussion on Academic Philosophy and Its Practice
[00:22:20] Exploring the Philosophy of Meditation
[00:41:00] The Impact of Meditation in Personal Life
[00:52:00] Neoplatonic Levels of Meditation
[00:55:50] Integration of Eastern and Western Philosophical Practices
[01:17:16] Exploring the Verveke Foundation and Its Role
[01:24:00] The Importance of Community and Shared Practices
[01:28:00] Final Thoughts and Reflections
Resources and References:
Dr. John Vervaeke:
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Quotes
“There's a paradoxical way in which an action has to be somehow both have modest aspirations and also ultimate aspirations at the same time.” Christopher Matropietro
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction and Overview: John Vervaeke and Christopher Mastropietro Discuss the Foundation's Role and Virtue
[00:05:43] Exploring Virtue and Virtuosity: Infinite vs. Finite Games, Socratic Questions
[00:13:34] Tensions in Personal Growth and Community Building Through Virtuous Practice
[00:19:00] Meta Virtue: Balancing Finitude, Transcendence, and Adult Maturity
[00:33:58] The Foundation's Service Approach: Pedagogical Program and Individual Impact
[00:45:43] Addressing the Paradoxical Nature of Virtue in Philosophical Practices
[00:54:10] Virtual Platforms' Effectiveness and Reflections on the Verveke Foundation Executive Meeting
[01:00:13] Closing Insights: The Value and Future of the Vervaeke Foundation's Work
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] Introduction: John Vervaeke introduces Christopher Mastropietro, discussing the Vervaeke Foundation and its focus on addressing the meaning crisis through virtue and virtuosity.
[00:02:16] Christopher reflects on the Foundation's progress and the pervasive question of virtue in their work.
[00:05:43] Discussion on balancing infinite and finite games and the implications for virtuous practice.
[00:10:54] Exploring the relationship between the sacred and the profane through virtue.
[00:13:34] Tackling community-building challenges and maintaining authenticity in virtuous actions.
[00:19:00] The concept of meta virtue: Balancing finitude and transcendence in life and work.
[00:25:22] Virtue in the Foundation's pedagogical program and its impact on individual growth.
[00:33:58] The Foundation's service approach and the importance of individual contributions.
[00:41:26] Virtue in the Dialectic into Dialogos programs: Addressing why virtue is central to their practices.
[00:45:43] The paradoxical nature of virtue and its application in philosophical practices.
[00:54:10] The effectiveness of virtual platforms and the unique impact of in-person interactions.
[00:59:46] Reflections on the Verveke Foundation Executive Meeting and the professionalism, commitment, and creativity observed.
[01:00:13] Closing thoughts and discussion on the Vervaeke Foundation's dialectic process and upcoming initiatives, highlighting John’s significant project described as a philosophical pilgrimage, blending scholarly argument with practical, lived experience.
Glossary of Terms
4E Cognitive Science: A view of cognition as embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended.
Relevance Realization: The ability to focus on salient information in a complex environment.
Predictive Processing: A framework in cognitive science that describes how the brain makes predictions about incoming sensory information.
Opponent Processing: A concept in biology where two subsystems work in opposition to regulate functions like arousal.
Resources and References:
Darius Parvizi
X: twitter.com/dparviziwayne
Active Inference Institute: activeinference.org
Active Inference Insights: youtube.com/@ActiveInference
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com
Patreon: patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Facebook: facebook.com/VervaekeJohn
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The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
Awaken to Meaning
John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis
After Socrates
The Crossroads of Predictive Processing and Relevance Realization | Leiden Symposium
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] - Darius Parvizi Wayne introduces the episode and guest John Verveke, highlighting John's expertise in psychology, cognitive science, and Buddhist philosophy.
[00:06:17] - John Verveke discusses the evolution of cognitive functions and the role of evolution in shaping cognition.
[00:11:40] - Explanation of the autonomic nervous system, detailing how its two subsystems with opposite biases work together to regulate bodily functions.
[00:14:43] - The conversation delves into the nature of problem-solving, exploring how organisms predict and prepare for future states.
[00:22:23] - The concept of hyperbolic discounting in cognition is examined, analyzing its impact on decision-making and goal pursuit.
[00:26:20] - Discussion on the role of affordances in predictive processing, exploring how environments offer action possibilities to organisms.
[00:31:34] - Conversation on the analogy between relevance realization and evolutionary processes, highlighting the dynamic nature of cognitive adaptation.
[00:38:00] - The existential imperative is clarified in the context of the free energy principle, exploring its implications in cognitive science.
[00:53:00] - Consciousness and the subject-object distinction are addressed, challenging traditional cognitive models and exploring interrelational perspectives.
[00:56:35] - Cultural and historical influences on cognitive processes are explored, examining how these factors shape our understanding of cognition.
[00:57:13] - John Verveke discusses the hermeneutics of suspicion in cognitive science, questioning the distinction between appearance and reality.
[01:04:49] - The role of perception and its function in cognitive processes are discussed, emphasizing the interconnectedness of perception and cognition.
[01:11:19] - The concepts of ontological and phenomenal self-modeling are delved into, discussing how these models influence cognitive processes.
[01:14:00] - Self-modeling and its cultural variations are discussed, highlighting the diversity in conceptualizing the self across different cultures.
[01:18:16] - Agency and selfhood in cognitive processes are examined, focusing on how these concepts enhance predictive agency in the world.
[01:22:01] - Exploration of self-modeling under flow states and their impact on cognitive processes.
[01:35:54] - Analysis of arousal in the context of meta motivational theory, discussing how arousal is framed differently based on goals and motivations.
[01:38:04] - Discussion of the intersection of philosophical concepts and computational models in cognitive science, emphasizing the importance of integrating these approaches to enhance understanding without oversimplifying complex phenomena.
[01:46:26] - Overview of a talk integrating predictive processing and relevance realization theory, offering insights into their combined impact on cognitive science.
Sam Tideman, an accomplished healthcare data scientist with an MS in Biostatistics, blends his analytical acumen with a passion for theology in his podcast, "Transfigured." The podcast features long-form discussions exploring the identity of Jesus, reflecting Sam's unique intersection of scientific expertise and spiritual inquiry.
Glossary of Terms
AGI (Artificial General Intelligence): An AI that has the ability to understand, learn, and apply its intelligence to a wide range of problems, much like human intelligence.
Biostatistics: The application of statistics to a wide range of topics in biology.
Resources and References:
Sam Tideman
YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCg7Ed0lecvko58ibuX1XHng
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com
Patreon: patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Facebook: facebook.com/VervaekeJohn
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The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis - series: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
Artificial Intelligence - series: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vui2YOOfrxbeRwJk5jZPmAth
The Crossroads of Predictive Processing and Relevance Realization | Leiden Symposium: youtu.be/51wcY39ouGs?si=XkxAE9deBj8kr_dl
Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos
Mentoring the Machines: Orientation - Part One: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne
Mentoring the Machines: Origins - Part 2: Surviving the Deep Impact of the Artificially Intelligent Tomorrow - John Vervaeke, Shawn Coyne
Predictive processing and relevance realization: Exploring convergent solutions to the frame problem. Phenomenology and the Cognitive Sciences. Andersen, B., Miller, M., & Vervaeke, J. (2022).
Related Resources
Chicagoland Bridges of Meaning Meetup
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] John opens the discussion by welcoming Sam and introducing the topic of artificial general intelligence (AGI).
[00:01:15] Sam shares his diverse background, which spans theology, philosophy, and artificial intelligence.
[00:06:15] The conversation focuses on AI's potential and dangers, setting the stage for the day's discussion.
[00:09:28] Sam reflects on the complexities he faced while trying to implement AI in emergency department forecasting.
[00:14:53] Sam points out the practical limitations of AI in real-world applications.
[00:21:38] Sam criticizes the inflated expectations surrounding AI in healthcare projects.
[00:26:26] John and Sam discuss how predictive processing and relevance realization can be integrated into AI.
[00:29:37] They delve into the potential of AI to emulate human qualities like intentionality and care.
[00:34:11] John emphasizes the need to recognize the limitations of AI in solving complex real-world problems.
[00:38:30] Sam's parable features an AI model in healthcare that prescribes drugs probabilistically and learns from outcomes, hinting at AI's emerging agency.
[00:42:10] The feasibility of AI replicating human intuition and judgment in complex scenarios is questioned.
[00:46:15] John highlights the importance of a multidisciplinary approach to understanding and developing AI.
[00:49:57] Philosophical aspects of AI, such as intentionality and consciousness, are explored in-depth.
[00:53:30] Sustainability concerns in AI development, especially compared to the human brain's efficiency, are discussed.
[01:06:40] The episode concludes with a discussion on AI's inability to align with human normativity and the limitations of its social, cultural, and biological understanding.
Iain McGilchrist: Iain McGilchrist is a renowned psychiatrist and writer known for his exploration of the brain's hemispheres. His seminal work, "The Master and His Emissary," delves into how the brain's structure affects human behavior, culture, and society, offering insightful perspectives on the cognitive underpinnings of modern challenges.
Daniel Schmachtenberger: Daniel Schmachtenberger is a multidisciplinary thinker dedicated to addressing global existential risks. His work focuses on the intersection of technology, human psychology, and civilization dynamics. He is recognized for his deep insights into systemic health, generative societal design, and strategies for a sustainable and flourishing future.
Glossary of Terms
Metacrisis: A term encompassing various global existential risks and challenges.
Meaning Crisis: The widespread feeling of lack of meaning in modern society.
Relevance Realization: A cognitive process of determining what information is relevant in a given context.
Resources and References:
Iain McGilchrist
Website: channelmcgilchrist.com
YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCW0LCKUFTTtgitH33Mx6u-A
X: twitter.com/dr_mcgilchrist
Facebook: facebook.com/DrIainMcGilchrist
Daniel Schmachtenberger
Website: civilizationemerging.com
Facebook: facebook.com/danielschmachtenberger
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danielschmachtenberger
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com
Patreon: patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Facebook: facebook.com/VervaekeJohn
X: twitter.com/vervaeke_john
YouTube: youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
Books
The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World - Iain McGilchrist: amazon.com/Master-His-Emissary-Divided-Western-dp-0300245920/dp/0300245920/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
How the West Really Lost God: A New Theory of Secularization - Mary Eberstadt
The Psychology of Belonging - Kelly-Ann Allen
Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis - John Vervaeke, Christopher Mastropietro, and Filip Miscevic
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler
Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny - Robert Wright
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction to the Metacrisis
[00:01:04] Defining Metacrisis and Initial Thoughts
[00:08:26] The Role of Brain Hemispheres in Human Experience
[00:21:29] The Meaning Crisis in Modern Society
[00:30:45] Human Mind and Cognition in the Metacrisis
[00:39:42] Exploration of Etiology and Psychological-Environmental Interrelations
[00:58:26] Redefining Purpose: Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic
[01:08:16] Hemispheric Imbalance and Its Impact on Civilization
[01:15:25] Rebalancing Power and Wisdom in Influential Figures
[01:39:05] Navigating the Dance of Reason, Authority, and Power
[01:53:19] Imagination in Rational Thinking
[02:02:45] Philosophical Awakening and Global Issues
[02:14:55] Human Responsibility in the Evolution of the Divine
[02:34:15] Fostering Global Wisdom through Pluralism
[02:39:25] The Intersection of Religion and Scale
[02:55:29] Revitalizing Religion for Modern Challenges
[03:05:56] Reimagining Education and Institutional Structures
[03:14:24] Embracing Beauty and Sacred Obligation
Glossary of Terms
Propositional knowledge: Knowledge of facts.
Procedural knowing: Knowing how to do something.
Perspectival knowing: Knowing by noticing aspects of things within how you are sizing up a situation. Knowing what it is like to be noticing from the state of mind you are in of the situation you are in. Knowing what is like being in a particular perspective.
Participatory knowing: Knowing by being. It refers to knowing how to act in the “agent-arena” environment—how the world and you are shaped by the same principles and processes to fit together, whether those processes are natural or cultural. Gravity shapes you, and the ground and culture shape you and the environment into a floor for walking. It is knowing by participating in affordances co-created by you and the world.
Resources and References:
Sam Tideman
YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCg7Ed0lecvko58ibuX1XHng
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com
Patreon: patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Facebook: facebook.com/VervaekeJohn
X: twitter.com/vervaeke_john
YouTube: youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
The Vervaeke Foundation
John Vervaeke YouTube
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, and Naturalism w/ Sam Adams: youtu.be/Bft-jIZ2oqM?si=OhHHr8ZCZLgRCa9y
Books, Articles, Publications, and Videos
Spinoza's Religion: A New Reading of the Ethics - Clare Carlisle: amazon.com/Spinozas-Religion-New-Reading-Ethics/dp/0691176590
Philosopher of the Heart: The Restless Life of Søren Kierkegaard - Clare Carlisle: amazon.com/Philosopher-Heart-Restless-S%C3%B8ren-Kierkegaard/dp/0241283582
John Vervaeke on the relevance of Neoplatonism today | Transfigured: youtu.be/t3ZpIN85gBQ?si=b8PudpDT0vIwtUnG
Quotes
"It's knowing this with your states of consciousness, states of consciousness always have co-defining situational awareness." - John Vervaeke, on perspectival knowing
"The way your agency and your character are shaped and your biology is shaped to fit the environment... that's participatory knowing." - John Vervaeke
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction of Dr. John Vervaeke
[00:03:07] The Four Kinds of Knowing
[00:04:20] Christian Doctrinal Differences and Kinds of Knowing
[00:08:07] Deeper Definitions and Taxonomy of the Four Ps
[00:17:23] Discussion on Personality and Kinds of Knowing
[00:32:16] Exploring Human Consciousness and Purpose
[00:41:33] The Universe, Life, and the Concept of Purpose
[00:48:22] Human Uniqueness in Understanding Purpose
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] Introduction of Dr.John Vervaeke
[00:03:07] Explanation of the four kinds of knowing
[00:04:20] Discussion on Christian doctrinal differences
[00:08:07] In-depth definitions of the four Ps
[00:17:23] Connecting personality types with kinds of knowing
[00:22:35] Integrating various kinds of knowing for holistic spiritual and personal development
[00:32:16] Exploration of human consciousness and purpose
[00:39:40] Debate on redemptive narrative in history
[00:41:33] The challenge of fitting the Christian mythological arc to the modern understanding of the universe
[00:44:11] Discussing the concept of incarnation
[00:48:22] Human uniqueness in understanding purpose
[00:50:30] The functional purpose in nature
[00:52:28] Mount Everest as an example of purpose without consciousness
[00:53:14] Introduction to Spinoza’s concept of conatas
[00:58:00] Reflecting on the quality of life in the universe
[01:05:00] The significance of life beyond quantity
[01:10:30] Philosophical implications of understanding purpose
[01:20:20] Discussing the impact of human mortality awareness on purpose and understanding
[01:30:00] Understanding purpose in existence and its implications in Christianity and pragmatism
Glossary of Terms
Transcendent Naturalism: A framework combining elements of naturalism with transcendental thinking.
Fifth Joint Point: A concept referring to a significant phase transition in human development.
Practical Eschatology: A term used to describe practical approaches to understanding human evolution and the future.
Jordan Hall
YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ
Medium: medium.com/deep-code
X: twitter.com/jgreenhall?lang=en
Gregg Henriques:
Website: medium.com/@jordangreenhall%C2%A0%C2%A0
Facebook: facebook.com/gregg.henriques
X: twitter.com/henriqgx
John Vervaeke
Website: johnvervaeke.com
Patreon: patreon.com/johnvervaeke
Facebook: facebook.com/VervaekeJohn
X: twitter.com/vervaeke_john
YouTube: youtube.com/@johnvervaeke
Resources and References
The Vervaeke Foundation: vervaekefoundation.org
John Vervaeke YouTube
The Religion of Tomorrow | Transcendent Naturalism #11 with Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall: youtu.be/JmOmwLWziAc?si=YyYP2KtcLPDaKMV_
Books, Articles, and Publications
Heidegger, Neoplatonism, and the History of Being: Relation as Ontological Ground - James Filler
Religion and Nothingness - Keiji Nishitani
The Silk Roads: A New History of the World - Peter Frankopan
The Emptying God ; A Buddhist-Jewish-Christian Conversation - Edited by John B. Cobb Jr. and Christopher Ives
Quotes
"Language evolution is critical to understanding our collective future." - Jordan Hall
"Navigating the fifth joint point requires a deep understanding of our past, present, and potential futures." - Gregg Henriques
Chapters with Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction to Transcendent Naturalism
[00:01:00] The Evolution of Language
[00:11:00] Practical Eschatology and Human Development
[00:20:00] The Fifth Joint Point - Navigating Future Challenges
[00:30:00] Interconnection of Languages and Consciousness
[00:40:00] Transcendence through Language and Thought
[00:50:00] Conclusion and Future Perspectives
Timestamped Highlights
[00:00:00] John Vervaeke introduces a discussion on cognitive science and naturalism with Jordan Hall and Gregg Henriques.
[00:01:21] Jordan Hall introduces concepts of 'practical eschatology' and 'extended transcendent naturalism.'
[00:04:52] Hall discusses the cultural split in the AI debate, highlighting societal polarization.
[00:09:11] Vervaeke calls for a new relationship to language and logos.
[00:14:13] Vervaeke highlights Neoplatonism and Zen's alternative linguistic and ontological approaches.
[00:20:53] Vervaeke emphasizes the need for existential transformation beyond theory.
[00:38:07] Gregg Henriques and Jordan Hall highlight the role of transcendent naturalism in framing relationality and exploring human potential.
[00:39:30] Henriques discusses developing a life-guiding operating system integrating justification systems and relational dynamics.
[00:40:20] John Vervaeke introduces the idea of a new post-nominalist language to enhance collective intelligence and understanding.
[00:42:07] Vervaeke explores the challenge of engaging with the world without being consumed by its ideologies.
[00:45:37] Jordan Hall stresses the importance of personal and authentic relational experiences in complex modern life.
[00:48:07] Hall discusses the paradox of deeply engaging with the world while maintaining a transcendent perspective.
[00:52:24] Vervaeke reinterprets the concept of God within a non-theistic, relational framework.
[00:55:34] Gregg Henriques shares his daily practice of reflecting on beliefs, values, and mantras to navigate life.
[01:02:20] Hall and Vervaeke discuss incorporating sacredness and relationality in daily life, emphasizing re-enchantment with the sacred.