Uploaded August 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 day ago
Welcome to Cross-Chain Examination, an inclusive and friendly place for your 102-level crypto/Web3 content.
In this episode of the podcast, host Katherine Wu chats with Espresso Systems' Jill Gunter about what tornado cash is + the use cases + reactions to tornado cash sanctions, the issues when it comes to privacy in Web3 and how crypto users should have various options when it comes to privacy.
0:00 Sponsor and episode introduction
1:54 Guest introduction
3:11 What is tornado cash and why would people want to use this tool?
5:20 Using a mixing service is not inherently bad!
6:37 Ethereum is like a public Venmo feed
12:45 Web3 privacy is pretty awful
15:00 Majority of tornado cash users are DeFi users, centralized exchanges etc.
19:05 Silver lining of tornado cash ban
20:18 Tornado cash still lives on!
24:20 Crypto right now is a mix of centralized + decentralized products
28:00 Crypto users should have more options when it comes to privacy
29:10 Privacy should not be all or nothing!
33:58 What's the one thing you want folks to know post tornado cash sanctions?
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This season is sponsored by Protocol Labs, creators of IPFS, libp2p, and Filecoin. They are an open-source R&D lab building protocols, tools, and services to radically improve the internet.
This season is also sponsored by Parcl, a digital real estate platform that lets you gain exposure to the real estate market with no minimum investment, high liquidity, and low transaction fees.
Cross-chain Examination is presented by Archetype, an early-stage crypto VC firm based in NYC.
Welcome to Cross-Chain Examination, an inclusive and friendly place for your 102-level crypto/Web3 content.
In this episode of the podcast, host Katherine Wu chats with Espresso Systems' Jill Gunter about what tornado cash is + the use cases + reactions to tornado cash sanctions, the issues when it comes to privacy in Web3 and how crypto users should have various options when it comes to privacy.
0:00 Sponsor and episode introduction
1:54 Guest introduction
3:11 What is tornado cash and why would people want to use this tool?
5:20 Using a mixing service is not inherently bad!
6:37 Ethereum is like a public Venmo feed
12:45 Web3 privacy is pretty awful
15:00 Majority of tornado cash users are DeFi users, centralized exchanges etc.
19:05 Silver lining of tornado cash ban
20:18 Tornado cash still lives on!
24:20 Crypto right now is a mix of centralized + decentralized products
28:00 Crypto users should have more options when it comes to privacy
29:10 Privacy should not be all or nothing!
33:58 What's the one thing you want folks to know post tornado cash sanctions?
* * *
This season is sponsored by Protocol Labs, creators of IPFS, libp2p, and Filecoin. They are an open-source R&D lab building protocols, tools, and services to radically improve the internet.
This season is also sponsored by Parcl, a digital real estate platform that lets you gain exposure to the real estate market with no minimum investment, high liquidity, and low transaction fees.
Cross-chain Examination is presented by Archetype, an early-stage crypto VC firm based in NYC.
