Talking Tokens PodcastIn this episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn Melinek speaks with Ayyan Rahman, co-founder and chief growth officer at OnRe, about why most real-world asset (RWA) projects in crypto are fundamentally misaligned with how DeFi actually works.
Ayyan explains that tokenization alone isn’t enough and that many RWAs today function more like repackaged traditional finance than truly composable on-chain assets. He breaks down why this creates a risk of “Wall Street exit liquidity,” and what it actually takes to build an asset that integrates properly into DeFi systems.
The conversation explores why reinsurance offers a unique source of uncorrelated yield, how tokenization can unlock more efficient capital scaling, and why liquidity, redemption mechanics, and risk modeling need to be rethought for on-chain markets.
They also discuss the impact of Drift Protocol’s exploit on market confidence, what stress reveals about DeFi systems, why the idea of “risk-free yield” is flawed, and how institutional capital is evaluating onchain opportunities. The episode closes with a broader look at where crypto is heading from speculative markets toward more structured, resilient financial systems built around real assets.
This episode is a part of the Solana Sessions campaign that Token Relations and the Talking Tokens podcast are doing, diving into founders’ journeys and startups building on Solana. Check out the accompanying newsletter on token-relations.com/investor-updates/all?network=Solana
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction 00:32 The Tokenization Illusion 01:59 Tokenization vs Reality 03:15 Why Reinsurance Actually Matters 06:22 The Real Unlock: Scaling Capital 09:05 Building a DeFi-Compatible Asset 12:14 What Breaks DeFi Under Stress 17:13 The Question That Actually Matters 22:07 Redefining Risk in DeFi 23:49 The Yield Trap 29:06 Best Gameplan for Growth 36:37 Where Adoption Actually Comes From
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Most RWAs Are Built Wrong | Ayyan RahmanTalking Tokens Podcast2026-04-21 | In this episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn Melinek speaks with Ayyan Rahman, co-founder and chief growth officer at OnRe, about why most real-world asset (RWA) projects in crypto are fundamentally misaligned with how DeFi actually works.
Ayyan explains that tokenization alone isn’t enough and that many RWAs today function more like repackaged traditional finance than truly composable on-chain assets. He breaks down why this creates a risk of “Wall Street exit liquidity,” and what it actually takes to build an asset that integrates properly into DeFi systems.
The conversation explores why reinsurance offers a unique source of uncorrelated yield, how tokenization can unlock more efficient capital scaling, and why liquidity, redemption mechanics, and risk modeling need to be rethought for on-chain markets.
They also discuss the impact of Drift Protocol’s exploit on market confidence, what stress reveals about DeFi systems, why the idea of “risk-free yield” is flawed, and how institutional capital is evaluating onchain opportunities. The episode closes with a broader look at where crypto is heading from speculative markets toward more structured, resilient financial systems built around real assets.
This episode is a part of the Solana Sessions campaign that Token Relations and the Talking Tokens podcast are doing, diving into founders’ journeys and startups building on Solana. Check out the accompanying newsletter on token-relations.com/investor-updates/all?network=Solana
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction 00:32 The Tokenization Illusion 01:59 Tokenization vs Reality 03:15 Why Reinsurance Actually Matters 06:22 The Real Unlock: Scaling Capital 09:05 Building a DeFi-Compatible Asset 12:14 What Breaks DeFi Under Stress 17:13 The Question That Actually Matters 22:07 Redefining Risk in DeFi 23:49 The Yield Trap 29:06 Best Gameplan for Growth 36:37 Where Adoption Actually Comes From
Episodes air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.Andrea Miele: Shopping Is Becoming an Experience | Solana SessionsTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-23 | For decades, online shopping has followed a simple formula: search, click, add to cart and buy.
In our latest Solana Sessions episode , Andrea Miele, Co-founder & CEO of Beezie, explains how discovery, gamification and live shopping are changing that experience.
The future of commerce may be about more than simply finding and purchasing a product. The journey itself is becoming part of the experience.
#Commerce #Ecommerce #LiveShopping #ConsumerTech #TalkingTokensJake Chervinsky: Why Some Markets Need 24/7 TradingTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-22 | Markets may close, but business risk continues.
Jake Chervinsky, CEO of Hyperliquid Policy Center, explains why 24/7 trading could be valuable for certain commodities, particularly for businesses that need to hedge their exposure when traditional markets are closed.
The argument goes well beyond retail traders wanting to trade overnight.
From the latest Talking Tokens episode with Jake Chervinsky.
#crypto #trading #commodities #markets #defiWhy Andrea Miele Chose Solana | Solana SessionsTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-22 | Why did Beezie choose to build on Solana?
In our Solana Sessions episode, Andrea Miele, Co-founder & CEO of Beezie, explains that while Beezie is currently live on both Base and Solana, Solana has stood out because of the support it provides to builders in their category.
For founders, choosing a blockchain can be about more than technical infrastructure. The strength and support of the surrounding ecosystem can matter just as much.
#Solana #Web3 #Blockchain #Builders #TalkingTokensWhy Stellar Thinks Its $4B Tokenization Milestone Is Just the BeginningTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-22 | In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Raja Chakravorti, Chief Business Officer at the Stellar Development Foundation, to discuss why the next phase of tokenization is about more than simply bringing assets onchain and how Stellar is building infrastructure for a more connected global financial system.
Raja breaks down Stellar's growth from roughly $1 billion to $4 billion in tokenized real-world assets since January, why capital efficiency is one of blockchain's biggest potential unlocks, and what needs to happen after an asset is tokenized for it to become genuinely useful. They discuss Stellar's work with DTCC, Franklin Templeton, WisdomTree and MoneyGram, the arrival of Tether's USD₮0 on Stellar, and why stablecoins have found product-market fit for global money movement. Raja also explains why distribution and circulation could define the next wave of tokenization, how financial institutions are moving assets onchain, and why better access to financial services remains central to Stellar's mission.
Timestamps 00:00 Raja Chakravorti's journey from banking to blockchain 05:17 Why access to financial services matters 08:04 What working at PayPal and Plaid taught Raja about financial infrastructure 10:31 The promise of moving financial assets onchain 11:23 What blockchain can solve for financial markets 13:19 Stellar crossing $4B in tokenized real-world assets 16:43 How big can tokenization get? 18:04 Should everything be tokenized? 18:49 Why DTCC is bringing assets to Stellar 21:54 Why financial institutions are choosing Stellar 24:32 Tether and USD₮0 come to Stellar 25:57 Why stablecoins matter for Stellar 27:49 The next frontier for tokenization 30:14 Building global financial access 32:30 What success looks like for Stellar
Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com #stellarblade #Tokenization #Stablecoins #RWJake Chervinsky: Hyperliquid Is Not an ExchangeTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-21 | Jake Chervinsky, founder and CEO of Hyperliquid Policy Center, explains why Hyperliquid should not be viewed as an exchange, but as infrastructure that exchanges can use to offer products and services to their customers.
The distinction raises a bigger question around regulation, brokers, and customer flow. From the latest Talking Tokens episode with Jake Chervinsky.
#crypto #hyperliquid #defi #marketstructure #regulationAndrea Miele: “Don’t Quit.” | Solana SessionsTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-21 | The founder journey comes with plenty of rejection, mistakes and setbacks.
In our Solana Sessions episode, Andrea Miele, Co-founder & CEO of Beezie, shares the advice she would give to founders building through those difficult periods: don't quit.
Keep pushing through the hardest days, stay focused on your North Star and remember why you're building in the first place.
#Solana #Founders #Entrepreneurship #Startups #TalkingTokensWhy This Founder Chose to Build on SolanaTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-21 | Why does Solana stand out to founders choosing where to build?
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#Solana #CryptoFounders #Web3 #Blockchain #BuildersThe Founder Advice Nobody Wants to HearTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-20 | What keeps a founder going when the bad days outnumber the good ones?
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#Founders #Entrepreneurship #Startups #Solana #FounderJourneyWhy Does Every Company Want Its Own Stablecoin?Talking Tokens Podcast2026-09-19 | Why would a company issue its own stablecoin instead of using one that already exists?
🔔 Watch the full Episode #Stablecoins #DigitalDollar #Payments #Treasury #FintechNicola White: The US Could Unlock Institutional Crypto AdoptionTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-19 | What could make the next year a significant one for institutional crypto adoption?
Nicola White, VP of Institutional at Robinhood, points to bringing more digital asset products onshore in the US.
With the US representing the largest market by size and volume, greater access could be a major unlock for the digital asset industry.
#Crypto #InstitutionalCrypto #DigitalAssets #USMarkets #TalkingTokensSam Broner: Where Stablecoins Will Actually WinTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-19 | Stablecoins don't have to replace every existing payment rail.
Sam Broner explains why their biggest growth could come from programmatic payments, 24/7 settlement, tight-margin transactions and global payments.
#SamBroner #Stablecoins #Payments #Banking #Crypto #TalkingTokensStock Tokens Are About More Than TokenizationTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-18 | What can you actually do with a tokenized stock?
Nicola White, VP of Institutional at Robinhood, explains why simply putting stocks onchain doesn't tell the whole story.
Stock Tokens could potentially be used as collateral, moved seamlessly between applications and integrated into financial services through a single interface.
The bigger opportunity may be the utility that tokenization enables beyond what traditional financial infrastructure can currently provide.
#Tokenization #StockTokens #DigitalAssets #Crypto #TalkingTokensAI Agents Could Pay With StablecoinsTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-18 | Could your AI agent eventually pay for things on your behalf? Sam Broner explains why stablecoins could enable agents to send digital cash to providers and receive digital goods through atomic transactions.
#SamBroner #AIAgents #Stablecoins #Crypto #TalkingTokensNicola White: Institutions Are Moving Beyond Crypto PilotsTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-17 | What does institutional crypto adoption actually look like?
Nicola White, VP of Institutional at Robinhood, explains how the conversation has evolved. A few years ago, institutions could approach crypto through pilots and projects that essentially checked a box.
Now, the focus is increasingly on finding unique use cases that solve real problems for customers.
#Crypto #InstitutionalCrypto #DigitalAssets #TradFi #TalkingTokensCould Hyperliquid Bring Its 24/7 Markets to the U.S.? | Jake ChervinskyTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-17 | In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Jake Chervinsky, founder and CEO of Hyperliquid Policy Center, to discuss how perpetual futures could move beyond crypto and what it would take to bring regulated onchain markets to the U.S
Jake breaks down why 24/7 price discovery matters, how perpetual futures could complement traditional derivatives markets, and why oil could be a natural next market for onchain trading. They discuss Hyperliquid's role as infrastructure for exchanges, the potential for regulated perpetual futures in the U.S., how onchain markets could improve liquidity and price discovery, and why not every traditional market necessarily needs to trade 24/7.
Timestamps 00:00 Jake Chervinsky and the Hyperliquid Policy Center 02:37 Why Jake believes in Hyperliquid 05:03 What makes Hyperliquid different 06:21 Taking perpetual futures beyond crypto 09:39 Perpetual futures explained 11:25 What 24/7 markets reveal about price discovery 13:01 Why pricing doesn't stop when markets close 14:08 Should every market trade 24/7? 16:01 Why oil could be the next market for perpetual futures 18:44 Who would use oil perpetuals? 19:18 What Hyperliquid could change about financial markets 21:00 Bringing regulated perpetual futures to the U.S.
Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com
This episode is brought to you by GSR, crypto’s capital markets partner, learn more at gsr.io
#Hyperliquid #PerpetualFutures #DeFi #OnchainMarketsSam Broner: Where Stablecoins Could Win at CheckoutTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-17 | Sam Broner explains why stablecoin payments could gain traction in businesses where traditional card fees are significant and new functionality, like loyalty, can be added on top.
#SamBroner #Stablecoins #Payments #Crypto #TalkingTokensWhat First Drew Her to CryptoTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-16 | Nicola White shares how she first found her way into crypto.
Coming from a market-making background, she was looking for markets that were fully electronic, less opaque and free from some of the antiquated processes she had encountered in traditional finance.
That search led her to B2C2, where the on-chain nature of crypto markets offered a fundamentally different way to understand client activity and market movement.
#Crypto #MarketMaking #DigitalAssets #MarketStructure #Blockchain #TalkingTokensWhy a16z Thought Stablecoins Were BoringTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-16 | Why focus on a crypto token designed not to go up?
🔔 Watch the full Episode #Stablecoins #a16z #Crypto #Payments #FintechWhat Happens When There Are 1,000 Stablecoins?Talking Tokens Podcast2026-09-16 | Why focus on a crypto token designed not to go up?
🔔 Watch the full Episode #Stablecoins #a16z #Crypto #Payments #FintechSam Broner: Why Companies Might Issue Their Own StablecoinTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-16 | Why would a company issue its own stablecoin?
Sam Broner explains why the opportunity goes beyond branding, with companies potentially seeking more control over compliance, collateral, yield, payments and global treasury operations.
#SamBroner #Stablecoins #Payments #Fintech #TalkingTokensConvergence Episode 1: How WisdomTree Went From $30M to $1 Billion in Onchain AUMTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-16 | Today we are announcing Convergence, our new institutional product for sophisticated investors, in a joint venture between StrataMedia's Token Relations product & Talking Tokens podcast alongside The Rollup, and is presented by WisdomTree.
For our debut launch, WisdomTree's Head of Digital Asset's Will Peck joins us for Episode #1 of Convergence.
WisdomTree's onchain assets went from $30 million to over $1 billion, and Will Peck says money market funds did the heavy lifting. On episode one of Convergence, Will explains why tokenized funds complement stablecoins rather than compete with them, and how WisdomTree got SEC exemptive relief to let a tokenized money market fund trade 24/7 through a broker dealer. He also pushes back on the private-markets tokenization thesis, arguing illiquidity isn't a record-keeping problem.
Will Peck is the Head of Digital Assets at WisdomTree, a global asset manager and ETF sponsor with roughly $170 billion in assets under management.
Convergence is powered by The Rollup and StrataMedia, covering the convergence of legacy finance and onchain finance.
Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:52 What Convergence Actually Means 04:30 Why WisdomTree Started In 2018 05:38 Exporting US Capital Markets 08:56 Institutional Versus Retail Distribution 10:32 The Innovation Exemption Explained 13:14 DTCC's Forty Firm Pilot 16:00 Three Models Of Tokenization 19:35 Why WisdomTree Chose Issuer-Led 21:10 Thirty Million To One Billion 22:45 What Drives The Next Era 25:05 Why Private Markets Aren't It 28:05 Who Wins The Tokenization Wave 30:14 The Perfect Storm For Adoption 33:08 WisdomTree's North Star
Edward says he’s becoming increasingly bullish on onchain lending through vaults. His thesis goes beyond DeFi: as settlement gets faster, the lending and repo infrastructure used by large financial institutions may also need to evolve.
Could blockchain-based vaults become part of the infrastructure institutions use in a T+0 financial system?
🔔 Watch the full Talking Tokens episode #OnchainLending #WallStreet #InstitutionalFinance #T0Settlement #BlockchainNicola White: Retail and Institutions Need Each OtherTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-15 | Nicola White explains why retail and institutional crypto markets shouldn't be viewed as completely separate ecosystems.
She discusses how retail clients can interact with institutional flow through Smart Exchange Routing and access more sophisticated trading strategies.
She also points to an interesting market dynamic: retail and institutional clients can sometimes take opposite risk positions, creating a natural interplay between the two sides.
#Crypto #InstitutionalCrypto #RetailInvestors #DigitalAssets #Trading #TalkingTokensSam Broner: Stablecoins Need a Clearing LayerTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-15 | Sam Broner explains why stablecoins need clearing infrastructure that allows different compliant stablecoins to work together, similar to how different cards work across existing payment networks.
#SamBroner #Stablecoins #Payments #Crypto #TalkingTokensFrom Pokémon Cards to Birkins: Inside Beezie’s $200M+ Volume | Andrea MieleTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-15 | In today's episode of Solana Sessions, Jacquelyn sits down with Andrea Miele, CEO and founder of Beezie, to explore how gamification, tokenization and onchain infrastructure are changing the way consumers discover and buy collectibles. Andrea breaks down how Beezie grew from tokenized trading cards into a broader gamified commerce platform, recently crossing $200 million in volume and $100 million in total revenue. They discuss Beezie's expansion into luxury markets through its partnership with The Luxury Closet, how users can access everything from Pokémon cards to luxury handbags through its digital claw-machine experience, and why Andrea believes the future of shopping is about more than simply searching, clicking and buying. She also explains why Beezie abstracts away the blockchain experience for mainstream users, how onchain transparency can help build trust, why Solana has become a key ecosystem for the company, and where gamified commerce could expand next.
Timestamps: 00:10 Andrea journey from collector to founder 02:26 How shopping behavior is changing 03:20 How Beezie's digital claw machine works 05:25 Why trading cards found product-market fit 06:49 Building through doubt as a founder 07:51 What drove Beezie's growth 08:51 Growing to $200M in volume and $100M in revenue 11:28 User growth and retention 12:35 Expanding beyond crypto-native collectors 13:03 Beezie's move into luxury 14:48 How the luxury experience works 15:49 Vaulting and securing physical assets 16:17 Authenticating luxury goods 17:16 Why Beezie is selling “the chase” 18:14 The future of gamified commerce 19:19 What Beezie learned from sneakers 20:17 What's next for tokenized commerce 21:07 Bringing luxury buyers onchain 23:25 Building trust through authentication 27:23 What traditional collectibles markets get wrong 28:46 Why onchain transparency matters 29:36 Who is the future Beezie customer? 30:10 Andrea's advice for founders 30:38 Why Beezie chose Solana
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#Solana #Tokenization #GamifiedCommerceNicola White: Why Crypto Doesnt Fit the TradFi BoxTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-14 | Nicola White explains why people entering crypto need to approach the space with curiosity and an open mind.
It's tempting to take everything we know from traditional finance and apply the same framework to crypto. But Nicola argues that just because something works one way in TradFi doesn't mean it will work the same way in crypto.
She also discusses why staying informed is so important in a market that moves as quickly as crypto.
#Crypto #TradFi #DigitalAssets #Blockchain #TalkingTokensWhy He Bet on Stablecoins EarlyTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-14 | While much of crypto was focused on tokens going up, Sam Broner was focused on stablecoins and the infrastructure needed to make different stablecoins work together.
#SamBroner #Stablecoins #Crypto #Fintech #TalkingTokensWhy Banks May Enter Crypto Through Wealth ManagementTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-14 | What could be the gateway that finally brings banks deeper into crypto?
Edward argues that wealth management may be the starting point. Once a bank offers clients Ethereum or Solana wallets, that same infrastructure could potentially support stablecoins, onchain deposits, tokenized money market funds—and eventually tokenized stocks.
Crypto could be the first step in a much broader convergence between traditional finance and onchain markets
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#Crypto #Banking #Tokenization #WealthManagement #OnchainFinanceHow Stock Tokens Fueled Robinhood Chains Explosive GrowthTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-14 | Robinhood Chain has quickly emerged as one of the fastest-growing blockchains, with roughly 620,000 average daily active users, $1.3 million in daily fees, and $4.26 billion in TVL, at the time of recording. But Alexander, from our institutional research team, explores in his latest report that some of the most interesting activity isn’t coming from stock tokens alone but also from what happens when tokenized stocks, memecoins, and 24/7 crypto markets collide. Alexander & Jacquelyn breaks down how Robinhood Stock Tokens work, why memecoins tied to specific stock tokens have created unusual new trading dynamics, and how one HIMS-related stock token traded more than 100% above its underlying asset before reverting. We discuss why limited minting and redemption windows can create price dislocations while crypto markets continue trading, how 24/7 equity markets could reduce those gaps, and the differences between wrapped vs issuer-led tokenization. Alex also explains what has fueled Robinhood Chain’s rapid growth and why he believes the current memecoin-driven boom may already be approaching its end.
Timestamps 00:10 The Stock Token Saga and New StrataMedia Research 01:12 Why Robinhood Chain Is Growing So Fast 03:20 How Robinhood Stock Tokens Work 04:55 The Risks Behind Wrapped Stock Tokens 06:11 Why Stock Tokens Are Getting Attention 06:52 When Memecoins Meet Tokenized Stocks 07:58 How a Stock Token Traded 100%+ Above Its Underlying 09:17 The Risks for Companies and Investors 10:51 The Problem With 24/7 Stock Token Trading 12:15 Wrapped vs. Issuer-Led Tokenization 13:17 Is the Robinhood Chain Boom Ending? 13:33 Why Alex Thinks the Market Could Cool Down 15:16 What Comes Next
#Robinhood #StockTokens #Tokenization #MarketStructure #TalkingTokensCrypto Is Too FragmentedTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-13 | The same asset can exist across dozens of blockchains, creating major complexity for users and businesses. Edward Woodford explains why solving blockchain fragmentation and usability could unlock enormous growth.
#EdwardWoodford #Blockchain #Crypto #Interoperability #TalkingTokensCrypto Is Still Unusable for 99% of the MarketTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-13 | How did crypto grow this much while remaining too complicated for most users?
Edward points to blockchain fragmentation as one of the industry's biggest usability challenges: an asset like USDC can exist across dozens of different blockchains, creating complexity that users and businesses ultimately have to navigate.
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#Crypto #Blockchain #Interoperability #USDC #CryptoAdoptionThe Goal Is Billions of Blockchain UsersTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-13 | Edward Woodford shares his vision of serving billions of people through technology that is largely abstracted from the user. He explains how reducing technical complexity and solving interoperability can help make blockchain easier to use at scale.
#EdwardWoodford #Blockchain #Stablecoins #Crypto #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokensTokenization Is an Upgrade, Not a ReplacementTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-13 | Andrew McCormick doesn't see tokenization as a way to get rid of the financial system. He sees it as an upgrade.
Stocks, money market funds and other assets can be represented digitally onchain, creating the potential for greater programmability, flexibility and control.
The goal isn't simply to put assets on a blockchain. It's to make them more useful.
#Tokenization #RWA #DigitalAssets #Blockchain #TalkingTokensWhy On-Chain Lending Could Be HugeTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-12 | Edward Woodford is increasingly bullish on on-chain lending through vaults. He explains why T0 settlement, atomic transactions and greater decentralization could force lending models to evolve.
#EdwardWoodford #DeFi #Lending #Blockchain #Crypto #TalkingTokensWhy He Chose to Keep BuildingTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-12 | Edward Woodford discusses the decision to keep building independently despite acquisition interest, including interest from Mastercard, and why creating long-term value for partners remains the focus.
#EdwardWoodford #Mastercard #Fintech #Crypto #TalkingTokensTokenization Is More Than Putting Assets OnchainTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-12 | Andrew McCormick says the real opportunity in tokenization isn't simply putting an asset onchain.
It's making that asset useful and programmable. Tokenized assets could potentially be used as collateral, borrowed against, lent out and integrated into automated financial processes.
The bigger unlock may be the utility that comes after tokenization.
#Tokenization #RWA #DeFi #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokensEdward Woodford, CEO of Zerohash: Banks Can Innovate Without Taking More RiskTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-12 | Trust is critical when selling new technology to banks and large enterprises. Edward Woodford explains why financial institutions need to know they can innovate without trading off risk.
#EdwardWoodford #Fintech #Blockchain #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokensChainlink Is More Than an OracleTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-11 | Andrew McCormick argues that describing Chainlink simply as an oracle provider misses the bigger picture.
He compares it to describing Amazon as a bookseller.
Financial institutions need far more than data. They need compliance, privacy and systems that can coordinate complex financial activity.
That's why blockchain infrastructure could play a much larger role in financial markets.
#Chainlink #Blockchain #DigitalAssets #Fintech #TalkingTokensInstitutions Arent Talking About bitcoins PriceTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-11 | Andrew McCormick says bitcoin's price rarely comes up in his conversations with institutions.
Instead, the focus is on banks tokenizing funds, brokers offering tokenized equities and the infrastructure being built around digital assets.
He sees that shift away from price as a healthy development for the industry.
#Bitcoin #Tokenization #DigitalAssets #InstitutionalInvesting #TalkingTokensBanks Have Completely Changed Their View of CryptoTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-10 | Just a few years ago, digital asset companies in the US could struggle to open a bank account.
Today, some of the largest US banks are developing blockchain technology and exploring DeFi.
Andrew McCormick describes the shift as profound and says it has been driven by years of regulatory, advocacy and infrastructure work.
He expects today's progress to look small compared with where the industry could be by 2030.
#Blockchain #DigitalAssets #DeFi #WallStreet #TalkingTokensAnthony Scaramucci Made $50K. Then the Investment Went to Zero.Talking Tokens Podcast2026-09-10 | Anthony Scaramucci shares an early investing lesson that stayed with him.
He made $50,000 on a biotech investment and rolled the profits back into the market. The company eventually went to zero, leaving him with losses in his margin account.
His takeaway was a lesson in overreach and being too certain about his own ideas.
#Investing #Markets #Finance #RiskManagement #TalkingTokensWhy Robinhood Is Betting on Tokenized Assets | Nicola WhiteTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-10 | In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Nicola White, VP of Institutional at Robinhood, to discuss how Robinhood is expanding its institutional crypto business and why tokenized assets could reshape the way traditional financial markets operate.
Nicola breaks down how Robinhood's acquisition of Bitstamp plays a role in expansion, the evolution of institutional demand from crypto pilots to real-world use cases, and the growing role of stock tokens, perpetual futures, collateral and capital efficiency. They also explore how Robinhood's stock tokens work, the path toward issuer-led tokenization, and why assets ranging from equities and private markets to money market funds, credit and FX could eventually move onchain.
Timestamps: 00:10 Nicola White's path from TradFi to crypto 03:11 Building Robinhood's institutional business 04:23 How Bitstamp expanded Robinhood's global footprint 05:57 Connecting retail and institutional markets 07:12 What TradFi professionals need to understand about crypto 08:38 What traditional finance still gets wrong 09:44 Are institutions moving beyond crypto pilots? 10:41 What's working for Robinhood 12:34 What are stock tokens? 13:51 Wrapped vs. issuer-led tokenization 14:55 Are stock tokens a bridge? 15:47 Robinhood's biggest tokenization opportunities 16:57 What does an institutional Robinhood look like? 17:48 What institutions are asking for now 18:34 Why capital efficiency matters 19:34 What could unlock the next phase of U.S. institutional adoption
Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com
This episode is brought to you by GSR, crypto’s capital markets partner, learn more at gsr.io
#Robinhood #Tokenization #InstitutionalCrypto #DigitalAssetsAndrew McCormick: Wall Street Wants Into DeFiTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-10 | Andrew McCormick says institutional attitudes toward DeFi have changed dramatically.
A few years ago, institutions were asking what the crypto space was all about. Now, they're asking how they can plug into it.
He compares the shift to The Lion King, where traditional finance once saw DeFi as a separate kingdom they didn't understand.
Today, Wall Street banks are asking how they can bring their products into DeFi securely.
#DeFi #Crypto #DigitalAssets #WallStreet #TalkingTokensAndrew McCormick: Banks Are Starting to Think Beyond Crypto PricesTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-10 | Andrew McCormick says the relationship between banks and crypto is more complicated than simply being "for" or "against" digital assets.
He believes the opportunity is to work with banks to make financial infrastructure more efficient and fair.
And the conversation is changing. Banks are increasingly looking beyond Bitcoin prices and trading toward blockchain technology and financial infrastructure.
#Crypto #Blockchain #DigitalAssets #Banks #TalkingTokensAndrew McCormick: Retail Brokers Could Lead TokenizationTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-09 | Andrew McCormick sees retail brokers as some of the fastest-moving players in tokenization.
Their customers already expect money and assets to move with the speed of everything else online.
His prediction is that by 2030, a retail broker that isn't offering tokenized assets could be way behind.
#Tokenization #RWA #DigitalAssets #Fintech #TalkingTokensDeFi Has a User Experience ProblemTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-09 | Carlos Domingo says one of the barriers to institutional DeFi adoption is complexity.
Some DeFi transactions can involve multiple wallets, conversions and transactions, making the experience difficult compared with traditional financial products.
He believes the industry needs to abstract away that complexity if DeFi is going to become a more attractive lending mechanism for institutions.
#DeFi #Crypto #DigitalAssets #InstitutionalInvesting #TalkingTokensHow Stablecoins Could Double Margins for BusinessesTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-08 | In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Sam Broner, CEO of The Better Money Company, to unpack what stablecoins need to become everyday payment infrastructure and why interoperability could matter more than which stablecoin ultimately wins. Drawing on his experience across Microsoft, the Federal Reserve, a16z and now building stablecoin infrastructure, Sam explains why today's payment system still has significant room for improvement.
They discuss why companies are launching their own stablecoins, how a stablecoin clearinghouse could connect an increasingly fragmented market, and why consumers may eventually use stablecoins without even realizing it. Sam also breaks down the economics of card fees for merchants, whether stablecoins threaten Visa and Mastercard, and why AI agents could increasingly use stablecoins as a default way to transact online.
Timestamps 00:00 — Meet Sam Broner 00:44 — From Microsoft and the Fed to stablecoins 02:21 — Why Sam saw the stablecoin opportunity early 04:54 — Is today's money system actually working? 05:23 — What is a stablecoin clearinghouse? 07:17 — Why stablecoin issuers need interoperability 10:10 — Why companies want their own stablecoins 12:25 — Why Better Money doesn't issue a stablecoin 13:40 — What happens if there are thousands of stablecoins? 17:13 — When stablecoins become everyday money 18:56 — What needs to happen for mainstream payments? 21:05 — How quickly could stablecoin payments become normal? 22:53 — The economics of credit card fees 24:41 — Do stablecoins threaten Visa and Mastercard? 26:42 — Stablecoins vs. banks and existing payment rails 28:05 — Why AI agents could pay with stablecoins 30:23 — Your AI agent may use stablecoins without you knowing 31:41 — How much money should you trust an AI agent with? 33:54 — When consumers stop thinking about stablecoins 36:43 — Sam's vision for the future of money 37:10 — Sam's career advice
Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com
#Stablecoins #Payments #Fintech #TalkingTokensWhat Will We Think About bitcoin in 2046?Talking Tokens Podcast2026-09-08 | Anthony Scaramucci imagines looking back at bitcoin and blockchain 20 years from now.
He sees the 2008 financial crisis as an important part of the story that led to the creation and development of the technology.
His broader argument is that if a technology is genuinely better, it will eventually be used, deployed and adopted.
#Bitcoin #Blockchain #Crypto #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokensWhy Has Going Public Become So Complicated?Talking Tokens Podcast2026-09-07 | Carlos Domingo says the IPO process has become increasingly cumbersome and expensive. Companies need more lawyers, bankers and intermediaries to navigate the process, even as capital markets have grown significantly.
He points to companies like Amazon, which went public when they were much smaller, as an example of how different the process used to be.
Could the way companies access public markets be due for an overhaul?
#IPO #CapitalMarkets #Tokenization #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokensTokenization Isn’t About Replacing the Financial SystemTalking Tokens Podcast2026-09-07 | Is tokenization supposed to replace the financial system or upgrade it?
Andrew defines tokenization as bringing assets like stocks, money market funds, and even collectibles onto a blockchain in digital form. But simply digitizing ownership isn’t the end goal: the bigger idea is making those assets programmable and giving users new ways to use and control them.
So what does an upgraded financial system actually look like once assets can do more onchain?