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When a state turns its military inwards, it raises all sorts of questions about the function of that state and who is considered a threat. It's worth remembering that less than a decade after the American Revolutionary War threw off occupying British forces and the exploitation of the crown, the very richest parts of Massachusetts society activated their own militia and raised funds for their own private forces to suppress the poorest parts of that society. Poor farmers and war veterans who were being heavily taxed to pay off the war debts of the rich. Fast forward to West Virginia in the 1920s and you've got federal troops being used to back up coal company owners against organizing workers, Black and white, fighting for their rights. In the seventies, you have students killed at Kent State and Jackson State for protesting a war that was killing their brothers and sisters. So what is the state for, and what is the nature of the threat? We're always told the federal forces are being used to keep us safe, but more often than not, they're being used to dodge answering that question, to avoid having that debate. Answering questions is not what troops are trained to do. They're much better at suppressing dissent, but none of it is good for our democracy. And those questions will have to be answered at some point.
When a state turns its military inwards, it raises all sorts of questions about the function of that state and who is considered a threat. It's worth remembering that less than a decade after the American Revolutionary War threw off occupying British forces and the exploitation of the crown, the very richest parts of Massachusetts society activated their own militia and raised funds for their own private forces to suppress the poorest parts of that society. Poor farmers and war veterans who were being heavily taxed to pay off the war debts of the rich. Fast forward to West Virginia in the 1920s and you've got federal troops being used to back up coal company owners against organizing workers, Black and white, fighting for their rights. In the seventies, you have students killed at Kent State and Jackson State for protesting a war that was killing their brothers and sisters. So what is the state for, and what is the nature of the threat? We're always told the federal forces are being used to keep us safe, but more often than not, they're being used to dodge answering that question, to avoid having that debate. Answering questions is not what troops are trained to do. They're much better at suppressing dissent, but none of it is good for our democracy. And those questions will have to be answered at some point.


![The Paramount Skydance Sale Makes the Case for Public Media [commentary-rewind]
Synopsis, Lauras Commentary: As billionaires buy up our newsrooms and Congress defunds public media, the stakes for democracy couldn’t be higher. If we don’t reinvent and reinvest in independent media now, it may soon be too late.
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![Its Still Jail: What Its Like to Wear an Ankle Monitor & the Companies Making a Profit [EXCERPT]
This conversation is an excerpt from our episode Corporate Prison Reform Will Not Keep Us Safe: A Report from Los Angeles. Watch the full report here: https://youtu.be/dmY1CobjVRI. This episode first aired July 2024.
Under the view of the iconic Hollywood Sign, a struggle is being waged over the future of policing and incarceration. Los Angeles is ground zero for fights over the job of District Attorney, Police Chief, and the size of prisons and jails. It recently became one of the only cities in the US to cancel construction of a jail. Activists have forced out two police chiefs, while conservatives have brought two recall petitions against the DA. Corporations that have profited from prison communications are now profiting on electronic monitoring. And in this election year, with criminal justice reform a major issue, how are activists pushing back against false narratives on crime? Looking at the fight inside and outside the system, Laura Flanders talks to activists and elected officials in Los Angeles. All this from the city where SWAT teams were invented, from the state where Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon launched their careers, and the nationwide boom in prison construction was born. Can todays Los Angeles change the script?
“Los Angeles has a history of repression, and I think because its Los Angeles, theyre also masters at narrative, so theyll mask it with pictures of palm trees and Venice Beach and all of these other things. But really, when we look at the history of Los Angeles, its deeply rooted in racism, deeply rooted in racist repression and oppression, and deeply rooted in a system of policing that absolutely descends from slave catching,” - Melina Abdullah
“When we talk about closing Mens Central Jail, yes, were trying to close that particular building, but what it requires is every jail in our county to reduce its population . . . Were trying to decarcerate globally across the jail system, that will then allow us to close this monument of essentially torture in our communities.” - Mark-Anthony Clayton-Johnson
“The reason why Ive done this work is because Ive seen how the system works, and Ive seen how it doesnt prevent harm and violence. It only responds to it . . .” - Eunisses Hernandez
Update: In the course of reporting our episode, Laura Flanders & Friends wrote to Securus, the security company we mention, and asked for confirmation of their prison-related revenue, and their response to the contention that electronic monitoring is turning communities into cages. Visit https://lauraflanders.org/2024/07/corporate-prison-reform-los-angeles/ to read their statement.
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